Popular Post Social Media Posted November 4, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 4, 2024 Iran has privately informed regional diplomats of plans for a powerful retaliation against Israel, indicating a “strong and complex” response with the potential involvement of heavier warheads and a wider range of military assets, according to Iranian and Arab officials. The warning comes as the U.S. has advised against Iranian counterstrikes, with the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, Linda Thomas-Greenfield, cautioning of “severe consequences” should Iran target either Israel or the U.S. The threat follows Israel’s October 26 airstrike on Iran, which exposed vulnerabilities in the country’s air defenses. Israeli officials have stated they are prepared to respond aggressively if Iran proceeds with its plans, and they have not ruled out targeting Iran’s oil and nuclear sites, critical components of Iran's economy and security. Iranian officials have conveyed that their conventional army would be involved in any response, marking a departure from past attacks managed solely by the paramilitary Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps. According to an Egyptian official, Iran's decision to escalate is in part due to Israeli strikes that killed four Iranian soldiers and a civilian. “Our military lost people, so they need to respond,” an Iranian official said, adding that Iran may use Iraqi territory for certain aspects of the planned strike and would aim at Israeli military facilities. Iran’s preparations suggest a more intense approach, moving beyond previous tactics of limited missile and drone strikes. Arab diplomats briefed on Iran’s intentions revealed that Tehran would likely deploy more advanced ballistic missiles equipped with powerful warheads. In the previous assault on October 1, Iran reportedly fired Emad and Ghadr missiles, as well as Kheibar Shekan and Fattah, two of its newest medium-range ballistic missiles. The timing of Iran’s response, an Iranian official noted, has been carefully considered with respect to the U.S. election. While Iran does not wish to influence the election, it aims to act between the vote on Tuesday and the inauguration of a new U.S. president in January. Iran reportedly prefers Kamala Harris over Donald Trump, according to U.S. intelligence agencies. Despite U.S. pressures, Israeli officials say they’re ready for escalation if Iran proceeds with its threat. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has asserted that Israel’s recent strike targeted Iran’s “soft underbelly,” adding, “Today, Israel has greater freedom of action than ever before. We can go anywhere that we need to in Iran.” The U.S. had previously helped restrain the October 26 Israeli strike to military sites only, though concerns persist that Israel might now target Iran's nuclear and oil facilities. Netanyahu reaffirmed last week that blocking Iran’s nuclear ambitions remains Israel’s “supreme objective,” though Iran insists it is not developing nuclear arms. As tensions rise, President Masoud Pezeshkian of Iran acknowledged that a response to Israel’s actions is unavoidable. He left open the possibility that Iran’s approach could shift if there were a ceasefire in Gaza and Lebanon, indicating that Iranian leaders are still debating the scale of their retaliation. The U.S. has bolstered its military presence in the region by deploying B-52 bombers, tanker aircraft, and destroyers, as the USS Abraham Lincoln carrier strike group prepares to exit. This redeployment marks the first time the U.S. will lack a carrier strike group in the Middle East since Hamas's October 2023 attack on Israel, further complicating the U.S. and Israel's strategic calculus in the face of Iranian threats. Based on a report by WSJ 2024-11-05 1 1 2 1
soalbundy Posted November 4, 2024 Posted November 4, 2024 The short sentence, violence begets violence, is well illustrated here. 1
thesetat2013 Posted November 4, 2024 Posted November 4, 2024 Isn't it wonderful.. That half the American people will actually vote for Warmongering Democrats hoping their threat of involvement will scare another country away? The US Dem admin will get rich on this war as it escalates and American involvement increases. The other countries know America will retaliate. But rather than ending the war they will retaliate in a way that will increase hostility. Pitiful. 1 1
mfd101 Posted November 5, 2024 Posted November 5, 2024 41 minutes ago, thesetat2013 said: Isn't it wonderful.. That half the American people will actually vote for Warmongering Democrats hoping their threat of involvement will scare another country away? The US Dem admin will get rich on this war as it escalates and American involvement increases. The other countries know America will retaliate. But rather than ending the war they will retaliate in a way that will increase hostility. Pitiful. Ah yes, the US Democrats are the source of all evil. Iran should be bombing the polling booths, even as we speak. 1
parallelman Posted November 5, 2024 Posted November 5, 2024 2 hours ago, thesetat2013 said: Isn't it wonderful.. That half the American people will actually vote for Warmongering Democrats hoping their threat of involvement will scare another country away? The US Dem admin will get rich on this war as it escalates and American involvement increases. The other countries know America will retaliate. But rather than ending the war they will retaliate in a way that will increase hostility. Pitiful. Although I don't actually know, I wouldn't have thought the USA was/is the only source of military supplies. And if the the rest of the world didn't supply the Middle East militaries would continue fighting with whatever they could use...pehaps the best way since bows and arrows are explosive 🙂 1
newbee2022 Posted November 5, 2024 Posted November 5, 2024 2 hours ago, thesetat2013 said: Isn't it wonderful.. That half the American people will actually vote for Warmongering Democrats hoping their threat of involvement will scare another country away? The US Dem admin will get rich on this war as it escalates and American involvement increases. The other countries know America will retaliate. But rather than ending the war they will retaliate in a way that will increase hostility. Pitiful. To get it right: either the Dems nor the Reps will stop to support Israel. There are too many Jews got influence in foreign politics. Trump is directly connected to Kushner and Biden got his Blinken. There is not the slightest difference between D and R in this issue 1
Yellowtail Posted November 5, 2024 Posted November 5, 2024 The US has got to appease Iran before it is too late.
proton Posted November 5, 2024 Posted November 5, 2024 2 hours ago, soalbundy said: The short sentence, violence begets violence, is well illustrated here. Islamic violence needs no begetting 1
pattayasan Posted November 5, 2024 Posted November 5, 2024 1 minute ago, proton said: Islamic violence needs no begetting Religious violence needs no begetting. 1 1
proton Posted November 5, 2024 Posted November 5, 2024 12 minutes ago, pattayasan said: Religious violence needs no begetting. Not all religions were founded by an admitted terrorist, spread by violence and upheld with violence, Islam was and is. 1 1 1
black tabby12345 Posted November 5, 2024 Posted November 5, 2024 When someone boasts to use the weapons of mass destruction, it is usually 100% Bull*hit. Why give the enemy chance to prepare against it? Pretty much the same as empty Bomb Threat by idiots. They all know that's the last thing they can do; once they really do it, it will be the beginning of the end to them.
thaipo7 Posted November 5, 2024 Posted November 5, 2024 1 hour ago, Yellowtail said: The US has got to appease Iran before it is too late. Appeasement got us here. It does not work. One side has to totally destroy the other.
mdr224 Posted November 5, 2024 Posted November 5, 2024 1 hour ago, newbee2022 said: To get it right: either the Dems nor the Reps will stop to support Israel. There are too many Jews got influence in foreign politics. Trump is directly connected to Kushner and Biden got his Blinken. There is not the slightest difference between D and R in this issue I disagree. Dems are pro islam 1
Yellowtail Posted November 5, 2024 Posted November 5, 2024 4 minutes ago, black tabby12345 said: When someone boasts to use the weapons of mass destruction, it is usually 100% Bull*hit. Why give the enemy chance to prepare against it? Pretty much the same as empty Bomb Threat by idiots. They all know that's the last thing they can do; once they really do it, it will be the beginning of the end to them. What do you think the west would do to Iran if Iran nuked Israel?
renaissanc Posted November 5, 2024 Posted November 5, 2024 The sge-old prophecies foretell of what is basically WW3 starting in the Middle East. Get ready! 1 1
Patong2021 Posted November 5, 2024 Posted November 5, 2024 It is unlikely that iran will be able to launch a significant bombardment. I anticipate a pre-emptive wipeout of Iran. Should that option not be open to Israel, as it would require the tacit co-operation of multiple Arab states, I would expect an overwhelming intercept and neutralization by French, UK, US and Arab nations. They won't be protecting Israel, but will be protecting their own vested oil interests and economies. Any problems in the region will increase the cost of oil. The underlying goal of Russia is to destabilize Gulf oil supplies. This would ensure that the current buyers of Russian oil continue and that the sanctions applied to Russian oil continue to be ignored. India acts as the most important facilitator of Russian oil sales to the west. The oil is shpped out of Russia by tanker, transferred at sea to Indian tankers and then sent to India where it is refined and then exported to western nations including the USA. It is impossible to trace the oil once it enters the Indian refining system. 1 1
Woke to Sounds Posted November 5, 2024 Posted November 5, 2024 As long as my portfolio keeps adding percentage points upwards I care not who wages war against whom. 1
black tabby12345 Posted November 5, 2024 Posted November 5, 2024 29 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: What do you think the west would do to Iran if Iran nuked Israel? To them, people of your kind (very believing and panicky) are the exact target audience of their crappy bluff. Those 3rd world dictators often insist they are stronger than they really are. As well as more than they can really do. And their words of intimidation are often the appeal to own population, rather than to the hostile power. As that kind of Make Believe is often the most effective tool to control own people(presenting themselves as the strong dependable leaders not bending knees on the external pressure). How many times N/Korea said they would strike Guam or US mainland or bomb Japan with their 'Latest Missiles'? Same to Poo-tin's Nuke Threat from the early stage of Invasion Ukraine. Did they ever do what they said they would do? Can you imagine Why Not? Simply because they won't be any benefited by doing so. Saying is One Thing. Doing is Another. Who wants to buy One Way Ticket to Own Doom unless they are really insane? interestingly, they are all close allies each other. If you have some knowledge of international politics, you can easily get off much of your needless over concern related to the international topics.
Yellowtail Posted November 5, 2024 Posted November 5, 2024 4 minutes ago, black tabby12345 said: To them, people of your kind(very believing and panicky) are the exact target audience of their crappy bluff. Those 3rd world dictators often insist they are stronger than they really are. As well as more than they can really do. And their words of intimidation is often the appeal to own population. As that kind of Make Believe is often the most effective tool to control own people(presenting themselves as the strong dependable leaders not bending knees to the external pressure). How many times N/Korea said they would strike Guam(US naval base) with their 'Latest Missile' or bomb Japan with their missile? Same as Poo-tin's Nuke Threat from the early stage of Invasion Ukraine. Did they ever do what they said they would do? Can you imagine Why? Simply because they won't be any benefited by doing so. Who wants to buy One Way Ticket to Own Doom unless they are insane? interestingly, they are all close allies each other. If you have some knowledge of international politics, you can easily get off much of your needless over concern related to the international topics. So, what do you think the west would do to Iran if Iran nuked Israel?
Emdog Posted November 5, 2024 Posted November 5, 2024 2 hours ago, parallelman said: Although I don't actually know, I wouldn't have thought the USA was/is the only source of military supplies. And if the the rest of the world didn't supply the Middle East militaries would continue fighting with whatever they could use...pehaps the best way since bows and arrows are explosive 🙂 Israel is a major producer and exporter of military armaments, has been for quite some time. USA doesn't have the leverage it once did by threatening to reduce armaments as Israel (wisely for them) decided best to arm yourselves. Good money maker: Israel exported $13 billion worth last year, never mind domestic consumption. https://truthout.org/articles/israels-arms-exports-hit-record-of-13b-in-2023-amid-gaza-genocide/
Hamus Yaigh Posted November 5, 2024 Posted November 5, 2024 9 hours ago, Social Media said: Iran has privately informed regional diplomats of plans for a powerful retaliation against Israel, indicating a “strong and complex” response with the potential involvement of heavier warheads and a wider range of military assets, according to Iranian and Arab officials. Does the photo show them browsing the latest catalogue of heavier warheads? 1
MalcolmB Posted November 5, 2024 Posted November 5, 2024 2 hours ago, proton said: Not all religions were founded by an admitted terrorist, spread by violence and upheld with violence, Islam was and is. Indeed. ”Our” religion was started by a Jew whose mother claimed to be a virgin. You know it makes sense. 1
black tabby12345 Posted November 5, 2024 Posted November 5, 2024 33 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: So, what do you think the west would do to Iran if Iran nuked Israel? Advisable to check it out by yourself. That is what internet is for. And that is how you learn. Enter Key Word like Iran's nuclear attack on Israel, possible scenario...
black tabby12345 Posted November 5, 2024 Posted November 5, 2024 13 minutes ago, Hamus Yaigh said: Does the photo show them browsing the latest catalogue of heavier warheads? Online Shopping Without Borders... Joke of the day. LOL.
Yellowtail Posted November 5, 2024 Posted November 5, 2024 2 minutes ago, black tabby12345 said: Advisable to check it out by yourself. That is what internet is for. And that is how you learn. Enter Key Word like Iran's nuclear attack on Israel, possible scenario... I asked for your opinion. Do you not have one or you are too frightened or embarrassed to say?
AlwaysThere Posted November 5, 2024 Posted November 5, 2024 3 hours ago, newbee2022 said: To get it right: either the Dems nor the Reps will stop to support Israel. There are too many Jews got influence in foreign politics. Trump is directly connected to Kushner and Biden got his Blinken. There is not the slightest difference between D and R in this issue People don't understand what is really going on. Easier to go with the dumbed down comic book version. There are a lot of dirty tricks and misinformation for sure. Smoke and mirrors. Stop fighting against each other and find common ground. Isolate the truly evil. 1
billd766 Posted November 5, 2024 Posted November 5, 2024 3 hours ago, proton said: Islamic violence needs no begetting Neither does Israeli violence, in a war that has been going on since before 1948. Why not do a search and find out how many times that the Israeli government and the IDF, has invaded Gaza, the West Bank of Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, especially the Golan heights and then compare that with how many times Iran has invaded other countries. 1
Yellowtail Posted November 5, 2024 Posted November 5, 2024 Just now, billd766 said: Neither does Israeli violence, in a war that has been going on since before 1948. Why not do a search and find out how many times that the Israeli government and the IDF, has invaded Gaza, the West Bank of Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, especially the Golan heights and then compare that with how many times Iran has invaded other countries. Are we including Iran's proxies in the count? 1 1
Patong2021 Posted November 5, 2024 Posted November 5, 2024 13 hours ago, Yellowtail said: So, what do you think the west would do to Iran if Iran nuked Israel? Europeans would go tut tut, and offer thoughts and prayers. They would tell the USA not to worry, that it was only some juden who were killed. Europeans would carry on without any concerns, although they most likely would enact draconian immigration laws to keep any Israeli refugees out of Europe. Israelis would be quickly and forcibly deported . In the UK, Whitehall experts would realize that they were the next target and would counsel defensive measures. The Labour government would ignore the advice and say no worries, that it was only Israel and offer benign indifference. It would eventually dawn on the UK government that the country was at risk and while talking peace, would expect the USA to fix the problem and when the USA did, would condemn the US action. The USA would be split with some celebrating the destruction of Israel, and others encouraged to work towards the destruction of the USA itself. Others would realize that Iran really is a threat to national security and the USA would then act accordingly. Canada would offer thoughts and prayers and recommend restraint. The government would offer sanctimonious counsel on the importance of peace, while hoping that the USA intervened. Japan and South Korea would offer money to buy protection, while planning a preemptive full out attack on Iran's nuclear ally North Korea as they would expect North Korea to be emboldened and to launch its own missiles. 1
Patong2021 Posted November 5, 2024 Posted November 5, 2024 12 hours ago, billd766 said: Neither does Israeli violence, in a war that has been going on since before 1948. Why not do a search and find out how many times that the Israeli government and the IDF, has invaded Gaza, the West Bank of Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, especially the Golan heights and then compare that with how many times Iran has invaded other countries. The largest contribution to the 500,000 killed in Syria was made by Hezbollah personnel fighting on behalf of Assad. They were supported and supplied by Iranian Republican Guard elite units who provided missile and air support. Hezbollah is a proxy army of Iran. Hamas is the Gaza Arab version of the Muslim Brotherhood. Its military units are supplied by Iran. Its military training is provided by Iran. Hezbollah operates as a defacto state in Lebanon and owes its loyalty to Iran, not to Lebanon. In effect it is a military occupying force. Iran finances militants in the West Bank of Israel/Jordan/Palestine. They co-ordinate their activities with Hamas and Hezbollah. The Houthis who have been attacking international shipping and targeting Israeli vessels are a proxy army of Iran. An estimated 250,000 people have died in Yemen's civil conflict.
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