How to stop the Boats.

[BarraMarra]

October saw the largest number of Migrant crossings over 5,000 in 1 Month into the UK. Its being reported this Morning that Two new hotels have opened to house Migrants one in Manchester and one in Berkshire, the Barge that cost Millions to convert the Bibby Stockholm has been Emptied of 500 migrants and placed into Temporary Accommodation i,e, hotels. The official figures putting out this morning is 31,000. The only reason the numbers will slow down now is the weather. So how do we slow or stop them crossing. 

[CharlieH]

Simple,it would never be approved and too many bleeding hearts would outcry,, but I would simply instruct the Royal Navy to sink them ! Life jackets cheaper than hotels etc. Give them all life-jackets and sink the boat.

 

Bet they'd stop as soon as it was known what will happen., and it's been demonstrated. 

[BarraMarra]

The French Police who have been paid Millions Charlie to patrol the beaches have been filmed standing on the beach watching them leaving, and in 1 case ran away when Attacked by an angry mob about to board there Inflatable. Instead of pulling out there Stanley Knives and Puncturing them before they get into the water.

Edited November 4 by BarraMarra

[OneMoreFarang]

Send them all immediately back to where they came from, France.

Nobody can claim that they escaped from France because they fear for their lives.

 

 

[scottiejohn]

10 minutes ago, CharlieH said:

Simple,it would never be approved and too many bleeding hearts would outcry,, but I would simply instruct the Royal Navy to sink them ! Life jackets cheaper than hotels etc. Give them all life-jackets and sink the boat.

 

Bet they'd stop as soon as it was known what will happen., and it's been demonstrated. 

And totally against SOLAS etc regulations.

 

[CharlieH]

5 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

And totally against SOLAS etc regulations.

 

And there you have it ! Bleeding hearts and more regs. Typical. 

The OP asked how to stop, I gave my opinion, I also said it wouldn't be approved, still doesn't change my opinion or what I woukd do to stop it.🙂

 

[scottiejohn]

2 minutes ago, CharlieH said:

And there you have it ! Bleeding hearts and more regs. Typical. 

The OP asked how to stop, I gave my opinion, I also said it wouldn't be approved, still doesn't change my opinion or what I woukd do to stop it.🙂

 

I totally agree with you that in the ideal, non bleeding heart, world that what you propose is called for.  Unfortunately no RN, or any ship, is allowed to ignore a person "in distress" in the water! 

Edited November 4 by scottiejohn

[steven100]

Send them to Christmas Island or Nauru    ....        they'll soon stop coming !

In 2013, desperate to curb arrivals by sea, Australia declared that no asylum seeker arriving by boat would ever settle on Australian soil. Instead, they are sent for 'offshore processing' at detention centres on Nauru and Manus Island. Even when granted refugee status, they effectively have nowhere to go.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Keeps]

If they are truly escaping persecution etc then they should in theory be 'happy' with their first port of call that will accept them and provide relief from their persecution.

 

The vast majority are economic migrants who have heard that the UK is the land of milk and honey. They hear 'free money, free food, free housing - what's not to like?'

 

I'm not saying other European countries have not accepted their fair share. There are massive problems in the likes of France, Germany, Sweden and no doubt many other European countries. 

 

How on earth though can they make it all the way to the UK? It's an island that shouldn't be easily accessible by illegal means. The French border force have a lot to answer for. All the while that the UK is giving them millions of pounds to prevent the influx.

 

There has been plenty of recorded evidence of the French border patrols casually puffing on a gualoises whilst allowing the traffickers to launch their boats.

 

Why don't the UK border force boats escort them back to a beach in France? Instead they escort them to a beach in the UK and every day hundreds, if not thousands arrive to be another burden on the UK taxpayer.

 

If we say there has been 30,000 land so far this year. There is a website (sorry, don't have the link to hand but easy to find) that provides the estimated population of cities and towns in the UK. Look it up, look around the 30k mark and find a City or town near where you live or come from. That will provide you with a far more accurate size of the influx during ONE year. You will be surprised and most probably horrified.

 

 

[G_Money]

OMG.

 

The comments I’m reading about migrants.

 

The leftist won’t be happy.

 

Yet they think America should have open borders.

Edited November 4 by G_Money

[BarraMarra]

Come om G_Money please do not bring America into this thread its about stopping migrants into the UK. We sadly see do gooders holding placards saying we welcome migrants most are not fleeing wars or persecution they know there lives are better here in the UK do not speak English and most you see arriving are not woman holding children there mostly young men. Lately there are many Vietnamese helped by a Viet forger bragging he has and is still helping Thousands to obtain false documents he was even filmed in an Interview in the UK. instead of him being arrested and kicked out immediately he is now claiming Asylum.

 

[transam]

29 minutes ago, G_Money said:

OMG.

 

The comments I’m reading about migrants.

 

The leftist won’t be happy.

 

Yet they think America should have open borders.

Guessing again.............

[MalcolmB]

58 minutes ago, steven100 said:

Send them to Christmas Island or Nauru    ....        they'll soon stop coming !

In 2013, desperate to curb arrivals by sea, Australia declared that no asylum seeker arriving by boat would ever settle on Australian soil. Instead, they are sent for 'offshore processing' at detention centres on Nauru and Manus Island. Even when granted refugee status, they effectively have nowhere to go.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why didn’t the Aborigines think of that before the First Fleet arrived with all our thieves and prostitutes?

 

Too late now I suppose. We don’t want them back.

[transam]

Just now, MalcolmB said:

Why didn’t the Aborigines think of that before the First Fleet arrived with all our thieves and prostitutes?

 

Too late now I suppose. We don’t want them back.

I thought you were Australian.........

[MalcolmB]

2 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

October saw the largest number of Migrant crossings over 5,000 in 1 Month into the UK.

They are eating the cats.

They are eating the dogs.

[MalcolmB]

1 minute ago, transam said:

I thought you were Australian.........

I identify as Canadian these days. 

[G_Money]

10 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

Come om G_Money please do not bring America into this thread its about stopping migrants into the UK. We sadly see do gooders holding placards saying we welcome migrants most are not fleeing wars or persecution they know there lives are better here in the UK do not speak English and most you see arriving are not woman holding children there mostly young men. Lately there are many Vietnamese helped by a Viet forger bragging he has and is still helping Thousands to obtain false documents he was even filmed in an Interview in the UK. instead of him being arrested and kicked out immediately he is now claiming Asylum.

 

I can see clearly now.

 

Migrants are different from illegal aliens in the USA.

 

So they wind up on the dole?  Council housing?

 

UK migrants work the agricultural fields?

 

 

[transam]

3 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

I identify as Canadian these days. 

Oh, just for a change, riiight...........

[Keeps]

34 minutes ago, G_Money said:

I can see clearly now.

 

Migrants are different from illegal aliens in the USA.

 

So they wind up on the dole?  Council housing?

 

UK migrants work the agricultural fields?

 

 

Legal migrants often work in agriculture. They seem particularly happy to do so. Often Eastern European. It's not the best paying manual labour but they work hard and send money home to their family and by many reports, improve their lifestyle in their country of origin for themselves and their families.

 

Sadly, a lot of UK residents would view this work as 'too back-breaking ' and would prefer to be receiving benefits. This enables them to sit on their sofa all day, smoke tabs and drink 2 litre bottles of 'tramp juice ' (strong cider to those who don't know). That is equally as sad. The benefits system makes work very unappealing to many people.

 

The illegal immigrants however get free housing, fed, watered, benefits, phone top-ups (so they can phone their mates and tell them how easy it is to get to the UK and just what they will get) and then fornicate like rabbits so they can double up or triple up on the benefits).

 

That's the main difference.

[proton]

Stop even feeding them and no benefits at all, deterrents  are needed not incentives. If Thailand can stop boats by sending them packing the UK could, if the willing was there.

[G_Money]

4 minutes ago, Keeps said:

Legal migrants often work in agriculture. They seem particularly happy to do so. Often Eastern European. It's not the best paying manual labour but they work hard and send money home to their family and by many reports, improve their lifestyle in their country of origin for themselves and their families.

 

Sadly, a lot of UK residents would view this work as 'too back-breaking ' and would prefer to be receiving benefits. This enables them to sit on their sofa all day, smoke tabs and drink 2 litre bottles of 'tramp juice ' (strong cider to those who don't know). That is equally as sad. The benefits system makes work very unappealing to many people.

 

The illegal immigrants however get free housing, fed, watered, benefits, phone top-ups (so they can phone their mates and tell them how easy it is to get to the UK and just what they will get) and then fornicate like rabbits so they can double up or triple up on the benefits).

 

That's the main difference.

Based on your post, quite similar.  Except our newest batch of OTM’s (Other than Mexican)  doesn’t work agricultural.

 

[Keeps]

1 hour ago, BarraMarra said:

Come om G_Money please do not bring America into this thread its about stopping migrants into the UK. We sadly see do gooders holding placards saying we welcome migrants most are not fleeing wars or persecution they know there lives are better here in the UK do not speak English and most you see arriving are not woman holding children there mostly young men. Lately there are many Vietnamese helped by a Viet forger bragging he has and is still helping Thousands to obtain false documents he was even filmed in an Interview in the UK. instead of him being arrested and kicked out immediately he is now claiming Asylum.

 

 

 

16 minutes ago, proton said:

Stop even feeding them and no benefits at all, deterrents  are needed not incentives. If Thailand can stop boats by sending them packing the UK could, if the willing was there.

I totally agree. It sounds harsh but give them the merest of sustenance etc. I doubt they were feasting where they came from so it's not a step down. Apparently, and it is widely reported, as soon as they are put somewhere after processing, they are provided with takeaways from various establishments (pizzas etc - no doubt taking into account their religious beliefs and dietary requirements - (nah, I don't like mushrooms on my pizza).

 

Stop making it appealing to come and perhaps the word might filter through to others. It shouldn't be enjoyable - it should be parity with where they have come from without the persecution and violence (supposedly)...

Edited November 4 by Keeps
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[RayC]

5 hours ago, CharlieH said:

Simple,it would never be approved and too many bleeding hearts would outcry,, but I would simply instruct the Royal Navy to sink them ! Life jackets cheaper than hotels etc. Give them all life-jackets and sink the boat.

 

Bet they'd stop as soon as it was known what will happen., and it's been demonstrated. 

 

Why give them lifejackets? They cost money.

 

In fact, before anyone drowns the RN should try to recoup the cost of sending the gunboat and the cost of the used armaments from the victims or their families.

[BarraMarra]

Once here they are given a translator to help them to fill out there benefit forms and for good measure get there appeals in to the Courts of Human Rights for there wife and kids to come because there human rights have been infringed because there apart.

[BarraMarra]

What's confusing this happens daily in the UK.

[quake]

Do not bring them to the uk or let them land on a uk beach.

Dump them by force back on a French beach.

Simple.

[quake]

16 hours ago, CharlieH said:

Simple,it would never be approved and too many bleeding hearts would outcry,, but I would simply instruct the Royal Navy to sink them ! Life jackets cheaper than hotels etc. Give them all life-jackets and sink the boat.

 

Bet they'd stop as soon as it was known what will happen., and it's been demonstrated. 

Not a good idea.

Many would die of hyperthermia.

Just take them back to france, no if's or but's.

 

 

[sammieuk1]

Top of Sir Keir's all the free gear and glasses manifesto pledge was quote "we are going to smash the gangs" what he didn't say was we are going to smash the pensioners' instead.

 

The only true thing this cretinous liar has said was his father was a toolmaker and made a perfect job of it 🤔

 

  

[quake]

27 minutes ago, sammieuk1 said:

Top of Sir Keir's all the free gear and glasses manifesto pledge was quote "we are going to smash the gangs" what he didn't say was we are going to smash the pensioners' instead.

 

The only true thing this cretinous liar has said was his father was a toolmaker and made a perfect job of it 🤔

 

 

 

Yes his father did make a tool

and he named it Keir.

 

[Denim]

Turn off the money tap.

 

Like moths. Turn off the light and they won't come.

 

Anyone seeking asylum must arrive by air or official port of entry. ALL illegral entry will result in deportation to home country or detention until this is known. No supporting paperwork....no asylum. No cash allowances given until asylum approved.