It is now election day in the U.S.A.

[Jingthing]

Among the most consequential elections not only in U.S. history -- but in world history.
Fasten your seatbelts because there is a very good chance we won't know the winner of the election for days or even longer.

Then comes the second phase.

If Harris wins, Trump's army of lawyers and maga activists are locked and loaded to try to overturn the results, as he tried to do last time.

He's much more prepared for that now but on the other hand he's not currently in power.

The odds of violence at various election linked locations across the country are quite high.

How does this end? Don't know but now it has really started.

 

Edited November 5 by Jingthing

[Danderman123]

One thing is constant in US presidential elections: early reports will announce heavy turnout. Even if the eventual numbers show average turnout.

 

The reason for these erroneous reports of heavy turnout is because of the great turnover in media, which means that a lot of reporters are seeing their first presidential election. They compare the lines with the lines for the earlier primary election (or the governor's election 2 years before) and the November lines look huge.

 

So expect early reports of huge turnout, but don't believe those reports.

Edited November 5 by Danderman123

[herfiehandbag]

Ah, so that is what is happening!

 

I had a feeling something was going on in the USA!

Edited November 5 by herfiehandbag

[still kicking]

13 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Among the most consequential elections not only in U.S. history -- but in world history.
Fasten your seatbelts because there is a very good chance we won't know the winner of the election for days or even longer.

Then comes the second phase.

If Harris wins, Trump's army of lawyers and maga activists are locked and loaded to try to overturn the results, as he tried to do last time.

He's much more prepared for that now but on the other hand he's not currently in power.

The odds of violence at various election linked locations across the country are quite high.

How does this end? Don't know but now it has really started.

 

Article from OZ news 

The election of Donald Trump could see Ukraine effectively handed over to Vladimir Putin on a silver platter and embolden the dictator to declare war elsewhere in Europe, experts warn.

https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/frozen-dire-outcome-of-a-trump-win-ukraines-loss-putins-victory-war-in-europe/news-story/978e0a84fd313b3fda7ed86f837d04f6

[mogandave]

59 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Among the most consequential elections not only in U.S. history -- but in world history.
Fasten your seatbelts because there is a very good chance we won't know the winner of the election for days or even longer.

Then comes the second phase.

If Harris wins, Trump's army of lawyers and maga activists are locked and loaded to try to overturn the results, as he tried to do last time.

He's much more prepared for that now but on the other hand he's not currently in power.

The odds of violence at various election linked locations across the country are quite high.

How does this end? Don't know but now it has really started.

 

And if Trump win do you think the left will try to stop him taking office? 

[GammaGlobulin]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

Among the most consequential elections not only in U.S. history -- but in world history.
Fasten your seatbelts because there is a very good chance we won't know the winner of the election for days or even longer.

Then comes the second phase.

If Harris wins, Trump's army of lawyers and maga activists are locked and loaded to try to overturn the results, as he tried to do last time.

He's much more prepared for that now but on the other hand he's not currently in power.

The odds of violence at various election linked locations across the country are quite high.

How does this end? Don't know but now it has really started.

 

 

You are asking me, again, how this will end?

 

I think I already submitted an incisive and prescient Topic answering JUST this very question.

 

If you are asking me to repeat what I have already clearly stated, then:

 

The end of the world is nigh.

Meaning the Human World, of course.

 

Some bacteria and archaea may survive, but nothing more.

Yes, I fear that due to this election in 2024...

It will soon be only the extremophiles that shall inherit the wind, I mean the Earth....such as animals like this:

 

 

Therefore, Sir, you are entirely justified in instructing members here to, as you so aptly put it....

"fasten your seatbelts" ....

Good advice, for sure!!!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

[RSD1]

👍🏼

Edited November 5 by RSD1

[frank83628]

3 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Among the most consequential elections not only in U.S. history -- but in world history.
Fasten your seatbelts because there is a very good chance we won't know the winner of the election for days or even longer.

Then comes the second phase.

If Harris wins, Trump's army of lawyers and maga activists are locked and loaded to try to overturn the results, as he tried to do last time.

He's much more prepared for that now but on the other hand he's not currently in power.

The odds of violence at various election linked locations across the country are quite high.

How does this end? Don't know but now it has really started.

 

How will you live if trump wins? I can't imagine how you will cope. 

[herfiehandbag]

9 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

You are asking me, again, how this will end?

 

I think I already submitted an incisive and prescient Topic answering JUST this very question.

 

If you are asking me to repeat what I have already clearly stated, then:

 

The end of the world is nigh.

Meaning the Human World, of course.

 

Some bacteria and archaea may survive, but nothing more.

Yes, I fear that due to this election in 2024...

It will soon be only the extremophiles that shall inherit the wind, I mean the Earth....such as animals like this:

 

 

Therefore, Sir, you are entirely justified in instructing members here to, as you so aptly put it....

"fasten your seatbelts" ....

Good advice, for sure!!!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

Is it dancing along to YMCA?

[Bday Prang]

10 hours ago, mogandave said:

And if Trump win do you think the left will try to stop him taking office? 

Nothing would surprise me,  lets remember that many people have an  obsessive uncontrollable hatred of Trump, one only has to read through the various threads on this forum to see that.   There are people who would do absolutely anything to prevent a Trump win, as evidenced by 2 assassination attempts, so some will obviously. literally stop at nothing.   What they are prepared to do is limited only by their imagination  and bearing in mind the behaviour of his opponents over the last few years I would say anything . absolutely anything is possible

Edited November 6 by Bday Prang

[simple1]

10 hours ago, mogandave said:

And if Trump win do you think the left will try to stop him taking office? 

 

No, but MAGA has already threatened some voting centres, where Dems expected to be majority,  with additional security being provided. Some examples, there are others...

 

https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/terrified-us-election-voters-panic-at-the-polling-stations-as-kamala-harris-and-donald-trump-face-off/news-story/434bb05e01b3a7aef1adc2e206fb66f5

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0mzrnr7nj2o

 

https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/bomb-threats-a-security-scare-at-the-capitol-and-fake-videos-from-russia-disrupt-us-election/news-story/b56c465444fe3366270ba1803d25c537

[mogandave]

Just now, simple1 said:

 

No, but MAGA has already threatened some voting centres, where Dems expected to be majority,  with additional security being provided. Some examples, there are others...

 

https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/terrified-us-election-voters-panic-at-the-polling-stations-as-kamala-harris-and-donald-trump-face-off/news-story/434bb05e01b3a7aef1adc2e206fb66f5

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0mzrnr7nj2o

 

https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/bomb-threats-a-security-scare-at-the-capitol-and-fake-videos-from-russia-disrupt-us-election/news-story/b56c465444fe3366270ba1803d25c537

No US news sources? 

 

Do you think Seattle, Chicago, Portland, New York and Los Angeles boarding up their downtown areas because MAGAs are going to riot when Harris wins? 

 

 

[CharlieKo]

3 minutes ago, mogandave said:

No US news sources? 

 

Do you think Seattle, Chicago, Portland, New York and Los Angeles boarding up their downtown areas because MAGAs are going to riot when Harris wins? 

 

 

Or Antifa, if Trump wins, and while too early, Trump is leading.

[simple1]

3 minutes ago, mogandave said:

No US news sources? 

 

Do you think Seattle, Chicago, Portland, New York and Los Angeles boarding up their downtown areas because MAGAs are going to riot when Harris wins? 

 

Also covered in US media. However, provide the links claiming Harris supporters are readying for violent protest. I suggest it isn't Democratic supports, but rather fringe elements such as anarchist's , criminal opportunists. etc

[mogandave]

Just now, CharlieKo said:

Or Antifa, if Trump wins, and while too early, Trump is leading.

Not possible. Leftist protests are always peaceful. It’s just that MAGAs show up dressed as Antifa and cause mayhem.  

[mogandave]

1 minute ago, simple1 said:

 

Also covered in US media. However, provide the links claiming Harris supporters are readying for violent protest. I suggest it isn't Democratic supports, but rather fringe elements such as anarchist's , criminal opportunists. etc

I never said Harris supporters are readying for violent protest.

 

Why do you dodge my question and lie about what I say?

[transam]

9 hours ago, frank83628 said:

How will you live if trump wins? I can't imagine how you will cope. 

More is the question, how will the USA cope, when they have traitorous numpties like you canvassing for him.....🤔

[transam]

An interesting perspective from Joe Walsh, watch it all...........🤔

 

 

[transam]

This guy tells it as it is...........

 

 

[TorquayFan]

If Harris wins, there'll be an enormous sigh of relief all around the Western World.

 

If Trump wins, God help us ! No alternative then but to sit back and watch the chaos unfold........

 

The Republicans should have kicked Trump out in 2020 !

[frank83628]

30 minutes ago, simple1 said:

 

No, but MAGA has already threatened some voting centres, where Dems expected to be majority,  with additional security being provided. Some examples, there are others...

 

https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/terrified-us-election-voters-panic-at-the-polling-stations-as-kamala-harris-and-donald-trump-face-off/news-story/434bb05e01b3a7aef1adc2e206fb66f5

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0mzrnr7nj2o

 

https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/bomb-threats-a-security-scare-at-the-capitol-and-fake-videos-from-russia-disrupt-us-election/news-story/b56c465444fe3366270ba1803d25c537

Russia Russia Russia . Of course, Putin did it himself

[Woke to Sounds of Horking]

9 minutes ago, transam said:

An interesting perspective from Joe Walsh, watch it all...........

Absolutely LOVED Joe's guitar work with The Eagles......... and Live From Daryl's House!  Cheers buddy!

 

 

[tomazbodner]

Very tight race...

 

 

 

 

Certainly looks like Harris' win!

Edited November 6 by tomazbodner
Source is from CNN.com

[simple1]

17 minutes ago, mogandave said:

I never said Harris supporters are readying for violent protest.

 

Why do you dodge my question and lie about what I say?

 

You asked...."Do you think Seattle, Chicago, Portland, New York and Los Angeles boarding up their downtown areas because MAGAs are going to riot when Harris wins? "

 

My answer: No, but having re-read your above post my answer would be Yes. Apologies for my error.

[transam]

9 minutes ago, TorquayFan said:

If Harris wins, there'll be an enormous sigh of relief all around the Western World.

 

If Trump wins, God help us ! No alternative then but to sit back and watch the chaos unfold........

 

The Republicans should have kicked Trump out in 2020 !

Indeed, the Republican Party members all fear Trump, fear for how he will come after them individually, though thankfully, there are some in that Party that do have balls......🤗

[GammaGlobulin]

1 hour ago, Bday Prang said:

Nothing would surprise me,  lets remember that many people have an  obsessive uncontrollable hatred of Trump, one only has to read through the various threads on this forum to see that.   There are people who would do absolutely anything to prevent a Trump win, as evidenced by 2 assassination attempts, so some will obviously. literally stop at nothing.   What they are prepared to do is limited only by their imagination  and bearing in mind the behaviour of his opponents over the last few years I would say anything . absolutely anything is possible

 

Including a Nuclear First Strike?

 

[KhunLA]

By my calculation, Harris will have ~223

and Trump will have ~242

 

without these swing states ...

... states Trump both won & lost in 2016 & 2020

 

WI 10 
GA 16
PA 19 
MI 15 
AZ 11

 

TTL of 75 votes to play with,

Harris will need ~47 

Trump will need ~28  

AZ w/11 should go to Trump, considering Immigration issues.

Edited November 6 by KhunLA

[KhunLA]

34 minutes ago, tomazbodner said:

Very tight race...

 

 

 

 

Certainly looks like Harris' win!

[mogandave]

Long way to 270

[G_Money]

13 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

One thing is constant in US presidential elections: early reports will announce heavy turnout. Even if the eventual numbers show average turnout.

 

The reason for these erroneous reports of heavy turnout is because of the great turnover in media, which means that a lot of reporters are seeing their first presidential election. They compare the lines with the lines for the earlier primary election (or the governor's election 2 years before) and the November lines look huge.

 

So expect early reports of huge turnout, but don't believe those reports.

“but don’t believe those reports”

 

Just like yours.