Thai Bank Account - 800k deposit

[DrJack54]

1 hour ago, Pattaya57 said:

Thanks for confirming Jomtien don't require bank statements for ongoing 12 month extensions.

Bank statements can be required at any immigration office especially if there are consolidated transactions or any months with zero activity.

 

This thread OP (while not first hand) bank statement required Jomitien.

Guessing due to some months with no activity.

This can catch out those (me) that use a dedicated bank account for immigration purposes. Some months no transactions. 

https://aseannow.com/topic/1335656-12-month-bank-statement/

 

[JAS21]

I use the pension method to renew my extension to stay. Nonthaburi asked to see 13 months of payments.

 

So after about 9 or 10 months, I get a statement to cover that period from Bangkok Bank. On the day I go to Bangkok Bank and get a statement for the remaining time together with the other letters that are required as I have to give them a letter saying when and how much each month is transferred from the UK I organize that a few days earlier.

[Liverpool Lou]

On 11/7/2024 at 5:07 PM, simeone said:

 SCB Bank  only 30 minutes. for one year statement. i used last week here in nonthaburi.

 

On 11/7/2024 at 5:13 PM, NE1 said:

Looks like that is my future bank , thank you.

Probably the most difficult bank for a foreigner to open an account with, though, in my experience.

[NE1]

16 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

 

Probably the most difficult bank for a foreigner to open an account with, though, in my experience.

The only problem I had were the power glitches , had to go through everything 3 times before completion as they kept losing everything on the computers .

Took 90 mins .

Edited November 9 by NE1

[Expat68]

5 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

 

Probably the most difficult bank for a foreigner to open an account with, though, in my experience.

I have been with them 14 years

[qwab32]

On 11/6/2024 at 5:06 PM, qwab32 said:

Hi.  I'm on a non immigrant O visa which I will eventually extend for a further year.  I've managed to open an account with Bangkok Bank without any real issues.

 

I have now deposited 800k in the account.  700k (in baht) came directly from my own Revolut account.  The other 100k was moved through my girlfriend's Thai bank account.  I transferred the 100k to her via Wise before I'd opened the Thai bank account.  She then transferred the 100k into my new account with Bangkok Bank. I have a record of the transfers going from my Wise account into her Thai bank account.  

 

I read on another thread that the 800k has to come from an account or accounts outside of Thailand.  Is this correct?  If so, do I have an issue with the 100k which went through my girlfriend's account even though I can prove that it was originally my cash and from outside of Thailand?

 

I'd hate to turn up at immigration after 2 months wait and have an issue with this. 

 

Apologies if this has already been covered on the forum.

 

Much appreciated.  Thanks

 

Hi - I'll be using the Koh Samui IO

[qwab32]

On 11/7/2024 at 12:23 PM, DrJack54 said:

Photocopies of bankbook pages covering say 3 months prior to application for extension. Immigration checking to see if the 800k has been in the account for min 2 months.

You could opt to also obtain 3 month bank statement (200b)

I obtained 12 month extension on 5th Nov.

On the 4th I went to my local bank and obtained 

1. 12 month bank statements 

2.  The "bank letter" confirming my ownership of account and balance.

 

On day of application I also made a 100b deposit into account to update and show activity. 

Which immigration office? 

Koh Samui

[NanLaew]

On 11/6/2024 at 5:24 PM, DrJack54 said:

OP, for 12 month extensions the funds do NOT need to be shown as transfers from abroad.

You have no issues. 

For the first extension you need to have funds seasoned for 2 months prior to date of application. 

 

Correct.

 

The way I understand it, the "from overseas" only applies to those renewing an extension using the proof of monthly income method.

Edited November 10 by NanLaew

[DrJack54]

29 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

,... the "from overseas" only applies to those renewing an extension using the proof of monthly income method

Yes if using income method immigration wants  to see monthly transfers of min 65k every month.

UK,USA and AU folk not able to provide embassy "income letter"

 

Folk need to check transfer codes as "credit advice" from bank may be required.

Few threads in banking/finance forum about this. Often discussing WISE 

[NE1]

On 11/7/2024 at 7:02 PM, DrJack54 said:

 

They will still place the overstay stamp in pp

What is the purpose of that , if they have already allowed your extension , what purpose does the overstay stamp serve.

Or is it just " something that they do for no reason "?

[DrJack54]

9 minutes ago, NE1 said:

What is the purpose of that , if they have already allowed your extension , what purpose does the overstay stamp serve.

My reply was concerning overstay.

Your stated....

"I did apply a little bit earlier , so I will only be 2 or 3 days past my expiry date , which they said if I was willing to pay a 500 baht a day fine , they will accept it." 

 

Fact is that you would be on overstay. Let's say 3 days overstay.

They are giving you a break.

For 3 days will be 1500b fine and an overstay stamp.

[BrandonJT]

7 hours ago, NE1 said:

What is the purpose of that , if they have already allowed your extension , what purpose does the overstay stamp serve.

Or is it just " something that they do for no reason "?

The purpose is to indicate that you overstayed.  The fact that they accepted your extension application is not related in any way. If you overstay, you pay a fine and get a stamp.  Completely separately they also accepted your extension application.

[Des1]

On 11/7/2024 at 6:42 PM, DrJack54 said:

Yes I think it's a 30 window so you can look 30 prior to an approx time you wish to obtain extension.

 

CW allows obtaining extension 45 days prior to expiry of current permit. 

When you make an appointment things have changed slightly.

Previously they sent a confirmation email.

Now when you make the appointment they give approval with details on phone screen.

Take a screenshot and do a print out hard copy to take to immigration. 

Quick question for you Dr Jack .. when you did your latest 12 month extension were you required to show the house registration and land title deed of the property owner (if you are a tenant)? When I did my first 12 month extension they asked for these things ( at CW ) and would not just accept a TM30. I will now be doing my second 12 month and I have changed address, so I assume they will want these documents again. Were there any surprises for you regarding documents this time around? Thanks!

[DrJack54]

51 minutes ago, Des1 said:

I will now be doing my second 12 month and I have changed address, so I assume they will want these documents again. Were there any surprises for you regarding documents this time around?

Regarding "address" ...I provided a rental contract and a TM30.

First ever time I provided a TM30.

I did that as this year seems to be more reports of immigration wanting that.

I have never changed address, since you have you will require a TM30. 

I rent an apartment same joint for 12 years.

 

I provided bank statements (12 months) using money in bank method retirement.

I recommend making a small deposit on day of application.

I obtained the bank statement and bank Letter the day prior to application.

Did not supply most recent TM47 however that wanted one previous 2 years.

 

Recommend making an appointment. Link for appointment 

https://bangkok.immigration.go.th/en/onlineservice-and-publicguide/ 

 

Posted this thread (not really comprehensive report just my experience last week

https://aseannow.com/topic/1342654-extension-retirement-cw/ 

 

@TylerBKK have detailed report recently. Maybe overkill but usefull......

"1 - Form TM.7 Completed and Signed - 2 Pages - Front & Back

2 - One recent 4X6CM Photo Of Yourself – Attach to back side of form TM.7

3 - A letter from your bank certifying your current account balance. Letter to be issued and dated the same date as the day when applying for the extension of stay. 

4 – Update passbook at the bank on the same day as applying for the extension of stay and create a photocopy of the updated account balance to give to Immigration. Also, photocopy the front page of passbook showing your name and account number and any photocopy all pages in between containing any deposits and withdrawals for the past 12 months.

5 – A certified (signed and stamped) bank statement issued by the bank for the 12 month period starting from the date that the last 1 year extension was applied for until present date.

6 – Photocopy of the first page of the passport and photocopies of all passport pages containing visas stamps and passport entry and exit stamps pertaining to the current visa.

7 - Copy of the current receipt from immigration for form TM.47 (90 day notification of residence address in Thailand).

8 – Hand drawn map showing directions to your residence.

9 - A single page form that only says "Statement" at the top (provided to you at immigration). 

10 - A single page form entitled "ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF PERMIT OF TEMPORARY STAY IN THE KINGDOM OF THAILAND". (provided to you at immigration). 

11 - A two page form entitled "The Acknowledgement of Penalties for A Visa Overstay" (provided to you at immigration). 

12 - Copy of House Registration (if you have one). 

13 – Copy of Pink Government ID Card (if you have one). 
 

*All of the above photocopied documents you submit need to also have your hand written signature somewhere on the photocopy (preferably in blue ink)." 

[NE1]

Update , got my bank statement from Bkk bank this morning , got a new bank letter and off to the Immi. office.

2 officers and 2 yellow shirted aids with nothing to do but check my documents , one officer asked why I had a bank statement when I already had the bank book pages copied signed and stamped ? 

He could not understand that my account had never ever gone below 800,000 baht in 12 years , yet they wouldn't accept it.

He was told by another officer that that was the requirement now . He shrugged his shoulders and walked off.

So now they wanted an account transaction for today. 

So back into Ratchaburi , made a deposit got the book updated and back to the Immi. office.

I was given 3 more docs to sign,

1st)  STM 2 which I had already submitted , but the doc. has been changed to include a second signature done in the presence of an Immi. officer.

2nd)  Acknowledge of Penalties for Visa overstay , which I had already submitted , but the doc. has also been changed to include a second signature done in the presence of an Immi. officer.

3rd)  Acknowledgment of conditions for a retired person to stay Temporary in the Kingdom of Thailand.

Plus I had to sign my wife's documents she submitted for a new TM 30 , I haven't moved or been out of the country , but they still insisted on her doing a new one.

Then for some reason or another , every piece of paper I submitted was photographed.

 

I will be interested to hear from anybody else who uses Ratchaburi Immigration in the near future , see if it slackens off any.

Edited November 12 by NE1

[DrJack54]

14 minutes ago, NE1 said:

So now they wanted an account transaction for today. 

So back into Ratchaburi , made a deposit got the book updated and back to the Immi. office.

You were advised of this earlier.

From above ....

"I recommend making a small deposit on day of application."

14 minutes ago, NE1 said:

I was given 3 more docs to sign,

That is standard

 

14 minutes ago, NE1 said:

He could not understand that my account had never ever gone below 800,000 baht in 12 years , yet they wouldn't accept it.

That io is a fool,  but in any event it was accepted.

 

14 minutes ago, NE1 said:

Plus I had to sign my wife's documents she submitted for a new TM 30 , I haven't moved or been out of the country , but they still insisted on her doing a new one.

It's common for some immigration offices to require a TM30.

I provided one at CW extension last week. Never done previously

[NE1]

2 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

17 minutes ago, NE1 said:

I was given 3 more docs to sign,

That is standard

3 is new for Ratchaburi...

 

3 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

18 minutes ago, NE1 said:

Plus I had to sign my wife's documents she submitted for a new TM 30 , I haven't moved or been out of the country , but they still insisted on her doing a new one.

It's common for some immigration offices to require a TM30

Never had to sign my wife's ID card copy before or her House book copies.

Always had a TM 30 , for some reason they wanted a new one.

It looks like all the offices will be as one in their requirements soon.

 

Anyway sorted for another year , already opened a new account with SCB on the 7th. so next years extension will go more smoothly (I hope )

[OJAS]

On 11/8/2024 at 10:19 AM, scotty1286 said:

Bangkok bank mobile app lets you download a 1 year statement instantly.

Found this out when immigration officer at Map Ta Phut requested it and BKK Bank said will take 7 days.

Went back to immigration and the lady showed me how to download a statement , emailed it to her and she printed it off for me.

 

No question of me being offered the mobile app download option when I applied for a retirement extension at Maptaput last year. Instead I was told in no uncertain terms to go away and not come back until I had obtained a fully stamped and signed 12-month statement from a local bank branch.

[DrJack54]

1 hour ago, OJAS said:

Instead I was told in no uncertain terms to go away and not come back until I had obtained a fully stamped and signed 12-month statement from a local bank branch

Of course. 

Folk should disregard posts to the contrary 

[Pattaya57]

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Edited November 13 by Pattaya57

[DrJack54]

3 minutes ago, Pattaya57 said:

From what I recall you posted you had never needed bank statements until your last extension and the reason you gave was you had no activity in passbook in one month.

Read back the post I was quoting.

It relates to chit chat about immigration accepting downloaded bank statements from a bank app.

These should not be acceptable to immigration.

 

If providing bank statements to prove money in bank method or income method then the statements should be obtained at the bank and stamped and signed by bank officer. 

Some immigration offices will be fine with bank book and photocopies. 

[scotty1286]

11 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

Of course. 

Folk should disregard posts to the contrary 

Even when they are an actual account of what happened but just because you don't think they should be accepted.

 

As I said previously, things change all the time depending on how the IO officer feels on that particular day but don't be so dismissive of others experiences.

[DrJack54]

16 minutes ago, scotty1286 said:

As I said previously, things change all the time depending on how the IO officer feels on that particular day but don't be so dismissive of others experiences.

Next time you require 12 month bank statement for immigration eg extension purposes just print them out from bank app.

Let forum know how you got along.

Retorical question.

Obtain bank statement from your bank 200b

[JimTripper]

On 11/11/2024 at 9:37 AM, DrJack54 said:

I rent an apartment same joint for 12 years.

Why would you stay in the same apartment for 12 years? Most people like a change of scenery once in awhile.

[DrJack54]

3 minutes ago, JimTripper said:

Why would you stay in the same apartment for 12 years? Most people like a change of scenery once in awhile.

Off topic but will answer. 

We travel Extensively. Both domestically and internationally.

2020 (covid) spend 8+ months on Koh Samed as not same restrictions.

Left Bangkok joint empty paid rent both locations. 

 

[Findthai]

On 11/6/2024 at 5:24 PM, DrJack54 said:

For the first extension you need to have funds seasoned for 2 months prior to date of application. 

Can I ask you: are there any IO that do not require having funds seasoned for 2 months prior to date of application for the first non-o visa (As in Pattaya, Phuket etc...)? What about Bangkok IO?

[DrJack54]

3 minutes ago, Findthai said:

Can I ask you: are there any IO that do not require having funds seasoned for 2 months prior to date of application for the first non-o visa (As in Pattaya, Phuket etc...)? What about Bangkok IO?

Jomitien is the only joint I'm aware of that is asking for 2 months seasoning for application for a non O .

(quite likely couple of others) 

The vast majority of immigration offices would only require funds in bank on date of application..

CW (Bangkok) day of application.