Why Kamala Harris Lost: The Challenges of a Complex Campaign

[RANGER55]

16 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

That's because they have nothing else. No positivity, no vision for a better future, no new ideas, no better way. Kennedy must be rotating wildly in his grave because of what they did to his party.

 

When one runs mainly on Trump is a bad man one is likely to lose.

Kennedy would be run out of the democratic part now.

[transam]

5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Trump won, so suck on that, loser

Loser, me, don't think so, Trump winning makes no difference to me at all, the UK Labour Party might though....😁

PS. Think before you post, chap...........🤭

[JonnyF]

It wasn't really a complex campaign.

 

Harris/Walz are liars and clowns. In fairness to Harris, she didn't want a running mate that was smarter than her so this limited her choice to 0.5% of the population.  

[CallumWK]

30 minutes ago, transam said:

Loser, me, don't think so, Trump winning makes no difference to me at all, the UK Labour Party might though....😁

PS. Think before you post, chap...........🤭

 

 

[illisdean]

"Complex" campaign ....full of lies and fraud. Reports show her raising in excess of $1B but has debts of $20M. She lost because 75M voters saw thru her facade of fraud and deceit.

 

 

Edited Monday at 03:18 AM by illisdean

[illisdean]

Listen to the answers she gave to two very basic and objective questions which she totally botched in humiliation. She's daft to say the least. 74 million voters took notice. It's possible she not have even comprehended the question and certainly didn't grasp the criticality of it and it's potential for negative impact and she fell for it, MASSIVELY.

 

 

Edited Monday at 03:25 AM by illisdean

[illisdean]

Just now, illisdean said:

Listen to the answers she gave to two very basic and objective questions which she totally botched in humiliation. She's daft to say the least. 74 million voters took notice.

And this answer:

 

 

[BritManToo]

21 hours ago, riclag said:

Mr Gluaude the Princeton Prof  is whats wrong in Academia! Filling all the minds of mush with DEI marxist nonsense.

As a Marxist I must pick fault with your post.

Dear old Karl thought women and non-whites were property to be bought, sold and abused.

He married a Baroness, lived off her income, and impregnated both her an her maid.

Karl was 100% in support of white male privilege!

 

You might be talking about cultural Marxism, which is entirely different.

[Luuk Chaai]

On 11/8/2024 at 8:35 AM, spidermike007 said:

Oh please. I think this has to be an inflection point for the dems, there is much to be learned. I can't tell you the number of people that I've spoken with that tell me that the two biggest issues for them were the economy (and their perception that Biden was not doing much for the economy, which I tend to agree with) and the PC agenda. Especially trans rights, the fact that they had daughters who competed on teams that insisted on a man who decided to transition being allowed to use the same locker room even though his package was still intact. I don't think that as a Democrat we can overestimate the degree to which people were offended by that kind of policy. I could go on and on about the PC agenda and the extent to which it alienated tens of millions of folks, feeling like it was being crammed down their throats, how to speak, how to behave, and how to act.

 

I have to admit I am amongst those people, I am not a PC guy, I have not bought into the woke agenda, so I can relate. 

 

The other aspect of this is that Biden should have been forced to accept one term, and he should have been moved aside before he even made the decision to run again. It's not about deferring to an incumbent, it's about the survival of the party. 

 

My last thought is that after this massive failure the entire Democratic party apparatus should be dismantled, all the people in charge should be fired, and the party should be rebuilt from scratch from the ground up.

 

Demonizing conservatives at this point is simply not helpful, there is a reason why they voted the way they voted. I have a lot of conservative friends and family who I love and respect and I get why they were not comfortable choosing Harris. I did not like her, I have never liked her, I did not find her to be a likable character and I cannot express how many people have spoken to that disliked her to a huge extent and were extremely turned off by her extreme lack of policy. That was not misogyny. It was personality, her track record, and a lack of substance. 

 

We must learn from this or we're destined to repeat the same mistakes over and over.

 

short version ....   Look who's singing ..  Loud and Clear

[Luuk Chaai]

On 11/8/2024 at 5:52 AM, NickyLouie said:

She lost because USA is racist and misogynistic.

 

 

 

 

 

Real patriotic Americans are not ..  that's part of why Trump won ..   Big Time !

[transam]

2 hours ago, CallumWK said:

 

 

So what, the 2 liars can sort it out between themselves..........

[riclag]

2 hours ago, BritManToo said:

As a Marxist I must pick fault with your post.

Dear old Karl thought women and non-whites were property to be bought, sold and abused.

He married a Baroness, lived off her income, and impregnated both her an her maid.

Karl was 100% in support of white male privilege!

 

You might be talking about cultural Marxism, which is entirely different.

A seed of Marxism is Cultural Marxism , thats what I was  referring to ! 
 

Edited Monday at 05:37 AM by riclag

[riclag]

6 hours ago, RANGER55 said:

Kennedy would be run out of the democratic part now.

Yes,totally .

Include MLK’s

Character beliefs  vs Identity Politics of today.

Edited Monday at 05:44 AM by riclag

[riclag]

2 hours ago, illisdean said:

Listen to the answers she gave to two very basic and objective questions which she totally botched in humiliation. She's daft to say the least. 74 million voters took notice. It's possible she not have even comprehended the question and certainly didn't grasp the criticality of it and it's potential for negative impact and she fell for it, MASSIVELY.

 

 

That was huge! 

[illisdean]

2 hours ago, Luuk Chaai said:

She lost because USA is racist and misogynistic.

Yeah of course US is racist, that must be why 10's of millions of blacks, asians, muslims, central Americans, etc from >100 counties are flocking there in record numbers. Give your head shake, maybe wake up, leann the facts before you open your mouth and remove all doubt about your total ignorance.

Edited Monday at 06:43 AM by illisdean

[J Branche]

On 11/10/2024 at 11:46 AM, mogandave said:

So if the left does not win, the system is flawed and must be torn down. 

 

This is why you lost.

Ah. The quick fire and miss the point comment.

 

My candidate won. Doesn't change the election process is flawed. I spent more than .5 seconds putting thought into my reply providing supporting details.

[Yellowtail]

3 hours ago, J Branche said:

Ah. The quick fire and miss the point comment.

 

My candidate won. Doesn't change the election process is flawed. I spent more than .5 seconds putting thought into my reply providing supporting details.

Of course the system is flawed, they all are. 

[Luuk Chaai]

On 11/8/2024 at 8:12 AM, NickyLouie said:

What are they waiting for ?

 

 

A personality ?

[kingstonkid]

On 11/10/2024 at 7:46 PM, candide said:

It doesn't make sense. If voters cared about honesty, they would not have elected Trump! 😃

People realized something that was evident more and more.

 

You do not have to like the person to votefor them.  You have to vote for the person that you think is going to make things better.

 

TRUMP AND THE GOP were discussing actualy plans and outlining how they were going tom ake it better.  They were talking about tangible things that they could and will do.

 

On the other hand the DNC was talking about TRump and trying ot getpeope to vote for Kamala because she was nicer.

 

The challenge to being nicer was that she never really stated what she was going to do and how she was ing to fix things.  She was the kid in school that tells the teacher what  the teacher wants her to say ot what is correct.

 

She was givenmany oportunities to outline how she was going to make America Better and she blew it.  

 

First mistake was child tax credit that is nice but it still doesnot put money in peoples pockets in the middle class.

 

She said that everthing that Biden did was great (I can't think of anything I would have done diferently)

 

Just like Hillary instead of talking what and how she spent the lat few weeks talking about how bad and nasty half the country is and how TRUMP was going to be like a dictator for the first days of his presidencey.

 

The law suits and court cases were the last thing that the DNC needed to talk about because everyone knew that

 

DEMS HAD ALREADY DRANK THE KOOL AID

GOP SAID THE KOOL AID SUCKED

INDEPEND were getting sick and tiered of them and the numerous frivolous lawsuits and micky mouse court cases.

 The DNC screwed up with the Primary.  Everyone either knew Biden had an issue or thought there wasn anissue.  Instead of funning a primary and letting Dems choose who they wanted they protected Joe and eventualy due to the money had to pick Kamala.

 

 

You can cry allyou want you can say things did not happen the way they seem BUT the one thing you can not argue is that Kamala got less votes than Biden. she lost a bigger percetage of voters in teh Latino, black community.  The unions ran away from her and she lost all of the swing states. 

 

[candide]

15 minutes ago, kingstonkid said:

People realized something that was evident more and more.

 

You do not have to like the person to votefor them.  You have to vote for the person that you think is going to make things better.

 

TRUMP AND THE GOP were discussing actualy plans and outlining how they were going tom ake it better.  They were talking about tangible things that they could and will do.

 

On the other hand the DNC was talking about TRump and trying ot getpeope to vote for Kamala because she was nicer.

 

The challenge to being nicer was that she never really stated what she was going to do and how she was ing to fix things.  She was the kid in school that tells the teacher what  the teacher wants her to say ot what is correct.

 

She was givenmany oportunities to outline how she was going to make America Better and she blew it.  

 

First mistake was child tax credit that is nice but it still doesnot put money in peoples pockets in the middle class.

 

She said that everthing that Biden did was great (I can't think of anything I would have done diferently)

 

Just like Hillary instead of talking what and how she spent the lat few weeks talking about how bad and nasty half the country is and how TRUMP was going to be like a dictator for the first days of his presidencey.

 

The law suits and court cases were the last thing that the DNC needed to talk about because everyone knew that

 

DEMS HAD ALREADY DRANK THE KOOL AID

GOP SAID THE KOOL AID SUCKED

INDEPEND were getting sick and tiered of them and the numerous frivolous lawsuits and micky mouse court cases.

 The DNC screwed up with the Primary.  Everyone either knew Biden had an issue or thought there wasn anissue.  Instead of funning a primary and letting Dems choose who they wanted they protected Joe and eventualy due to the money had to pick Kamala.

 

 

You can cry allyou want you can say things did not happen the way they seem BUT the one thing you can not argue is that Kamala got less votes than Biden. she lost a bigger percetage of voters in teh Latino, black community.  The unions ran away from her and she lost all of the swing states. 

 

My point was that honesty/dishonesty did not play much role in this election. There were other more significant reasons. Some which you just mentioned, and other you didn't.

[kingstonkid]

1 hour ago, candide said:

My point was that honesty/dishonesty did not play much role in this election. There were other more significant reasons. Some which you just mentioned, and other you didn't.

 

 

Agreed but with her keeping hermoth shut about change is came down to one questiopn.

 

Were you better off when TRUMP was President with Pence or are you better off now with Biden adn Kamala.

 

With most people thinking the country is going in the wrong direction and the cost of living skyrocketing the fact that TRUMP had a plan and Kamala had word salad and backing of multi milionaires that live in LALA land or NYC left little doubt who they were voting for

[illisdean]

Of course she lost, America wants patriotic Americans in government  and not garbage like Biden, Mayorkas, Harris et al. Speaking of DHS/FEMA, lets watch Trumps law abiding rule of law DOJ jail the the real criminals in America now . NC voters and all American patriots will never forget this!

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/fema-trump-houses/

 

 

 

[candide]

1 hour ago, kingstonkid said:

 

 

Agreed but with her keeping hermoth shut about change is came down to one questiopn.

 

Were you better off when TRUMP was President with Pence or are you better off now with Biden adn Kamala.

 

With most people thinking the country is going in the wrong direction and the cost of living skyrocketing the fact that TRUMP had a plan and Kamala had word salad and backing of multi milionaires that live in LALA land or NYC left little doubt who they were voting for

I agree that it was an important topic, but not on the diagnosis.

Life was better pre-Covid in each and every country, it has nothing to do with who was President. Trump inherited a good economy and the global context was good. Hr neger had to fight global inflation. Things were not better because of Trump.

It's the same post Covid. It was a global phenomenon. High inflation everywhere, increasing deficits everywhere. Compared to other developed country, ex G7, the situation of the U.S. is much better.

 

Trump had a more clear plan. However, it will not reduce inflation, rather the opposite.

[kingstonkid]

13 hours ago, candide said:

I agree that it was an important topic, but not on the diagnosis.

Life was better pre-Covid in each and every country, it has nothing to do with who was President. Trump inherited a good economy and the global context was good. Hr neger had to fight global inflation. Things were not better because of Trump.

It's the same post Covid. It was a global phenomenon. High inflation everywhere, increasing deficits everywhere. Compared to other developed country, ex G7, the situation of the U.S. is much better.

 

Trump had a more clear plan. However, it will not reduce inflation, rather the opposite.

But the key was that gas was cheaper heating your home was cheaper and people were finding good jobs in the market producing NG and other fuels.  

 

No matter what life was better under TRUMP and under Biden it got worse.  The fact that Trump had a plan and could artivulate it while Kamala kept talking about the story and her upbringing. never articualting a plan to reverse the economy to reverse high immigration to stop cities fromspending money on illegal refuges and start spending it on the people that were American and living there.  Along with saying that everything they did was great and there was nothign she would change killed her.

 

Now we hear in themedial that she went through 1 billion Plus  Pqaid ce3lebrities to appear with her and left teh DNC in debt.  Is that a person that you want looking after your wallet.

 

To me it is like giving the GF'wife 100,000  baht to buy thngs and her coeming home telling you that she got almost everything but she hgad to use the d\credit card for a further 30K and oh yeah I was not able to get everything done so can yougive me moremoney.

[Yellowtail]

14 hours ago, candide said:

I agree that it was an important topic, but not on the diagnosis.

Life was better pre-Covid in each and every country, it has nothing to do with who was President. Trump inherited a good economy and the global context was good. Hr neger had to fight global inflation. Things were not better because of Trump.

It's the same post Covid. It was a global phenomenon. High inflation everywhere, increasing deficits everywhere. Compared to other developed country, ex G7, the situation of the U.S. is much better.

 

Trump had a more clear plan. However, it will not reduce inflation, rather the opposite.

What do you see as the primary drivers of inflation?