Popular Post Social Media Posted November 10, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 10, 2024 One of the most alarming prospects is the potential role Robert F. Kennedy Jr. (RFK Jr.) could play in the Trump administration's handling of public health. After abandoning his own bid for the presidency, RFK Jr. threw his support behind Donald Trump, helping to fuel his campaign with the promise of significant influence in shaping U.S. health policy. Trump has openly stated that he intends to give Kennedy a “big role” in guiding health initiatives, enabling him to make sweeping changes in areas like food, medicine, and public health. This could have disastrous consequences—not only for the United States but for global health as well. President Trump has asked me to do three things: 1. Clean up the corruption in our government health agencies. 2. Return those agencies to their rich tradition of gold-standard, evidence-based science. 3. Make America Healthy Again by ending the chronic disease epidemic. pic.twitter.com/WHMOsD0CiI — Robert F. Kennedy Jr (@RobertKennedyJr) November 6, 2024 RFK Jr. comes from a legacy of American political royalty. He is the son of Robert F. Kennedy, the late U.S. senator and presidential candidate, who was assassinated in 1968. Though RFK Jr. initially made his mark as an environmental lawyer, his recent notoriety stems from his vehement opposition to vaccines and his active role in spreading misinformation. Despite claims that he will not "take anyone’s vaccines away," Kennedy has continued to peddle falsehoods about vaccine safety, including discredited links between vaccines and autism, even as scientific consensus has debunked these claims. Kennedy's position on vaccines and public health is not only deeply concerning but also politically influential. He has claimed that he was promised control over major health agencies in the U.S., including the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), and the National Institutes of Health (NIH). This unprecedented authority would allow Kennedy to dramatically alter the direction of health policy, even without formal cabinet approval. Though such appointments require Congressional approval, Trump's past strategy of appointing acting officials could bypass this obstacle. This raises the possibility that Kennedy, even without an official position, could exert significant influence over U.S. health policy. His vision, based on his anti-science agenda, could undermine decades of progress in public health. The implications of Kennedy's potential role are wide-ranging. For one, his rhetoric about returning health agencies to a “gold-standard, evidence-based science” is at odds with his history of spreading unproven treatments and rejecting established medical knowledge. In the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic, both Trump and Kennedy promoted unverified treatments like hydroxychloroquine, which has since been proven harmful to many patients. RFK Jr. is also well known for his crusade against fluoride in drinking water—a substance that has played a major role in reducing tooth decay in the U.S. and around the world. His anti-fluoride stance has gained traction among a vocal minority, and should he gain power, he may attempt to roll back fluoridation programs, undermining one of the most significant public health achievements in history. The potential for such a rollback of public health protections is alarming. If Kennedy's influence expands, outbreaks of preventable diseases like measles could rise, especially as vaccine hesitancy grows. His legacy, framed under the banner of “Make America Healthy Again,” could in fact leave the U.S. with a sicker, more vulnerable population. The impact wouldn’t be limited to the U.S. alone. In 2019, Kennedy’s anti-vaccine organization visited Samoa, where a misinformation campaign about the safety of the measles vaccine led to a catastrophic outbreak, killing 83 people. His insistence that a defective vaccine caused the deaths was disproven, but the damage had already been done, with vaccination rates in the country plummeting to just 31%. This is just one example of the global ripple effect that RFK Jr.'s dangerous influence can have. The Trump administration's embrace of Kennedy as a health czar raises troubling questions about the future of public health worldwide. If Kennedy, who has openly criticized the rapid development of COVID vaccines, were to hold a position of power during a future pandemic, the U.S. would likely be much less prepared to respond. The success of Operation Warp Speed, which led to the rapid development of vaccines during the COVID-19 pandemic, would be unlikely to repeat itself if Kennedy were in charge. Ultimately, the health of Americans—and the world—could be at risk. With a distorted reality based on misinformation, RFK Jr.’s rise to power would signal a dangerous departure from scientific consensus, and his policies could lead to the erosion of vital health protections. The risk of increased vaccine-preventable diseases, reduced access to safe medicines, and the spread of dangerous pseudoscience could have long-lasting consequences for global health, far beyond the borders of the United States. Based on a report by The Conversation 2024-11-11 1 3 4
Popular Post Snackbar Posted November 10, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 10, 2024 The Nazis destroyed the Media; no more democracy. 2 1 1
Popular Post Theforgotten1 Posted November 10, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 10, 2024 Can only be a good thing , maybe keep those pharmaceutical companies in check too 2 17 2 2 2
Popular Post Hakuna Matata Posted November 10, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 10, 2024 https://theleaflet.in/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/The-Real-Anthony-Fauci-Bill-Gates-Big-Pharma-and-the-Global-War-on-Democracy-and-Public-Health-Childrens-Health-Defense-by-Robert-F.-Kennedy-z-lib.org_.pdf 2 2
Popular Post save the frogs Posted November 10, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 10, 2024 I nearly forgot about RFK !! This sounds promising to me: https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4966535-robert-kennedy-trump-health-care/ “I told Bobby, ‘I want you to take care of health, I want you to look at the food and the food supply and what we put on the food,” Trump said at the MSG rally. 1 2 3
Hakuna Matata Posted November 10, 2024 Posted November 10, 2024 Drug prices Like political leaders on both sides of the aisle, Kennedy has supported measures to lower drug costs. “Legislators should cap drug prices so that companies can’t charge Americans substantially more than Europeans pay,” Kennedy wrote in a Wall Street Journal op-ed in September. Kennedy pointed to Ozempic, Novo Nordisk’s popular diabetes drug, as an example, noting how in Germany the drug costs less than one-tenth of its cost in the U.S., where the list price is around $1,000 per month. It’s a similar criticism as the case made by Senator Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., against Novo and Eli Lilly for charging too high a price for their diabetes and weight loss medicines. During his first term, Trump issued an executive order that would have required Medicare to pay no more than the lowest prices in other OECD countries for drugs. CMS proposed what became known as “the most favored nation” model in November 2020, after Trump lost the election, but it was rescinded before the end of the year. While Trump has since backed away from the policy, Kennedy’s past support suggests how the idea may still circulate in a second Trump administration. Source: https://www.biopharmadive.com/news/rfk-jr-trump-administration-pharma-fda-policies-views/732367/
Popular Post Hakuna Matata Posted November 10, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 10, 2024 Drug advertising Kennedy’s distrust of the pharma industry is also evident in his opposition to direct-to-consumer pharmaceutical advertising, which he has called for banning. In his op-ed in the Journal, Kennedy suggested news channels may be influenced by drug ad revenue in their health news coverage. Pharma companies spent nearly $3 billion last year on advertising for the 10 most promoted drugs. 1 1 3
Popular Post Jitagawn Posted November 10, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 10, 2024 I would recommend all to read RFK's book on Fauchi. Its an extraordinary work replete with endless documentation of his opinion. IMHO 1 1 1 3 7
Popular Post roquefort Posted November 10, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 10, 2024 1. Clean up the corruption in our government health agencies. 2. Return those agencies to their rich tradition of gold-standard, evidence-based science. 3. Make America Healthy Again by ending the chronic disease epidemic What's not to like? As the unhealthiest developed country in the world, the USA can only benefit from these policies if RFK Jr can see them through. That's why Big Pharma is running scared and getting their paid media propagandists to drag up every slur about him they can find. 1 10 1 4 1
Popular Post save the frogs Posted November 11, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 11, 2024 1 hour ago, Hakuna Matata said: Drug advertising Kennedy’s distrust of the pharma industry is also evident in his opposition to direct-to-consumer pharmaceutical advertising, which he has called for banning. In his op-ed in the Journal, Kennedy suggested news channels may be influenced by drug ad revenue in their health news coverage. Pharma companies spent nearly $3 billion last year on advertising for the 10 most promoted drugs. US and New Zealand are the only countries where this is allowed, I think. This OP is the most important thread I've seen about the entire election or candidates. Going after Big Pharma two days in is mind-blowing. This is HUGE! https://www.forbes.com/sites/stephenbrozak/2024/11/08/is-rfk-jr-just-what-the-doctor-ordered-the-5-critical-first-signs/ Healthcare Is A Business Fifth, Kennedy would have his most significant effect on healthcare if he could refocus the money-making business of medicine to its original goal of maintaining and improving health. 3 2
Popular Post BritManToo Posted November 11, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 11, 2024 4 hours ago, Social Media said: RFK Jr. is also well known for his crusade against fluoride in drinking water—a substance that has played a major role in reducing tooth decay in the U.S. and around the world. His anti-fluoride stance has gained traction among a vocal minority, and should he gain power, he may attempt to roll back fluoridation programs, undermining one of the most significant public health achievements in history. It should be up to the people to choose to take fluoride or not. It doesn't need to be in the municipal water supply. Vaccines, if the vaccines work then there is no need for everyone to be forced to take them. Allow people free choice. 1 9 1 2 2 1
Popular Post dinsdale Posted November 11, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 11, 2024 This is the typical left wing spin. "The dangers............. ." Nothing about potential benefits. Just fear mongering. Big Pharma and Big Food needs to be brought under control. Hopefully a thorough investigation of the last four years will be opened with ALL documentation from big pharma subpoenaed. RFK Jnr. is IMO the man who can take science back to where it belongs and that's not in the pockets of vested interests or making highly addictive and unhealthy manufactured food. 1 5 2 4 5
dinsdale Posted November 11, 2024 Posted November 11, 2024 4 hours ago, Social Media said: Kennedy has continued to peddle falsehoods about vaccine safety, Have a read of this. Pharmaceutical product recall and educated hesitancy towards new drugs and novel vaccines https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/09246479241292008 1 1
Popular Post mdr224 Posted November 11, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 11, 2024 Make America less fat 1 3 1 1 1
Popular Post jippytum Posted November 11, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 11, 2024 Although a Trump supporter it's a concern a covid and anti vacine sceptic may be in charge of the nations health. 2 1 2
Popular Post dinsdale Posted November 11, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 11, 2024 11 minutes ago, jippytum said: Although a Trump supporter it's a concern a covid and anti vacine sceptic may be in charge of the nations health. I suggest you read my above attached link. Your view here is based on exactly what RFK Jnr. questions. Scientific accuracy and accountability, Big Pharma influence and the narrative pushed by the legacy media the latter which has been well exposed in the US election as completely biased. 1 5 1 3
Popular Post herfiehandbag Posted November 11, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 11, 2024 He does, perhaps, resemble the chap you fervently hope doesn't come and sit next to you on a bus! 1 1 2 2
Popular Post impulse Posted November 11, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 11, 2024 9 minutes ago, jippytum said: Although a Trump supporter it's a concern a covid and anti vacine sceptic may be in charge of the nations health. You'd probably feel differently if your health and quality of life took a big nosedive the day after your 2nd Pfizer. I sure do. Over 3-1/2 years later, I still haven't recovered. I don't expect to in this life. And even so, I'm not anti-vax. I am anti-mandate, and in favor of full disclosure of the risks that come with the benefits. Which we have been denied for years. 1 3 1 1 3 3 3
Popular Post dinsdale Posted November 11, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 11, 2024 5 minutes ago, impulse said: You'd probably feel differently if your health and quality of life took a big nosedive the day after your 2nd Pfizer. I sure do. Over 3-1/2 years later, I still haven't recovered. I don't expect to in this life. And even so, I'm not anti-vax. I am anti-mandate, and in favor of full disclosure of the risks that come with the benefits. Which we have been denied for years. Ah! Please. If your anti-mRNA jabs you must be anti vax. That's what the sheep of this world believe that's for sure. As for anti-mandate it's incredible that healthy young people were forced to take a jab or two. I recommend having a look at the above paper I linked. It's very interesting. 1 2 1
Popular Post JonnyF Posted November 11, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 11, 2024 Another great move by Trump. The way Covid vaccines were forced on people was a disgrace. Funny how all the "my body my choice" mob were quite happy to force/shame people into taking these rushed vaccines. 3 3 2 2 2
Popular Post dinsdale Posted November 11, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 11, 2024 12 minutes ago, JonnyF said: Another great move by Trump. The way Covid vaccines were forced on people was a disgrace. Funny how all the "my body my choice" mob were quite happy to force/shame people into taking these rushed vaccines. Agree. It's interesting how the anti MAGA posters on here have been calling Trump Hitler, a fascist and a dictator yet people were forced, duped or coerced into taking an experimental drug, forced to lockdown and forced to wear masks. When it comes to dictatorial behaviour I think these examples fit within the definition. 1 2 2 1 2
Popular Post JonnyF Posted November 11, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 11, 2024 1 minute ago, dinsdale said: Agree. It's interesting how the anti MAGA posters on here have been calling Trump Hitler, a fascist and a dictator yet people were forced, duped or coerced into taking an experimental drug, forced to lockdown and forced to wear masks. When it comes to dictatorial behaviour I think these examples fit within the definition. As I've said before, the left are exactly what they accuse you of being. 5 3
Popular Post john donson Posted November 11, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 11, 2024 people here allergic to a man that wants to clean up the joke that FDA, CDC , other 3 letter agencies are... they are in the pockets of big pharma google: big pharma biggest fines maybe, just maybe your eyes might open just a little, probably not... 3 1 2 1
mdr224 Posted November 11, 2024 Posted November 11, 2024 3 minutes ago, JonnyF said: As I've said before, the left are exactly what they accuse you of being. You seem disconnected from reality, danderman would like to say 1 1 1
HappyExpat57 Posted November 11, 2024 Posted November 11, 2024 Americans should Google "Mark Cuban's cost plus pharmacy" Game changer. I'm sure Big Pharma is none too pleased, but Cuban is already a billionaire and doesn't care.
Popular Post novacova Posted November 11, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 11, 2024 5 hours ago, Social Media said: One of the most alarming prospects is the potential role Robert F. Kennedy Jr. (RFK Jr.) could play in the Trump administration's handling of public health. After abandoning his own bid for the presidency, RFK Jr. threw his support behind Donald Trump, helping to fuel his campaign with the promise of significant influence in shaping U.S. health policy. Trump has openly stated that he intends to give Kennedy a “big role” in guiding health initiatives, enabling him to make sweeping changes in areas like food, medicine, and public health. This could have disastrous consequences—not only for the United States but for global health as well. RFK Jr. comes from a legacy of American political royalty. He is the son of Robert F. Kennedy, the late U.S. senator and presidential candidate, who was assassinated in 1968. Though RFK Jr. initially made his mark as an environmental lawyer, his recent notoriety stems from his vehement opposition to vaccines and his active role in spreading misinformation. Despite claims that he will not "take anyone’s vaccines away," Kennedy has continued to peddle falsehoods about vaccine safety, including discredited links between vaccines and autism, even as scientific consensus has debunked these claims. Kennedy's position on vaccines and public health is not only deeply concerning but also politically influential. He has claimed that he was promised control over major health agencies in the U.S., including the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), and the National Institutes of Health (NIH). This unprecedented authority would allow Kennedy to dramatically alter the direction of health policy, even without formal cabinet approval. Though such appointments require Congressional approval, Trump's past strategy of appointing acting officials could bypass this obstacle. This raises the possibility that Kennedy, even without an official position, could exert significant influence over U.S. health policy. His vision, based on his anti-science agenda, could undermine decades of progress in public health. The implications of Kennedy's potential role are wide-ranging. For one, his rhetoric about returning health agencies to a “gold-standard, evidence-based science” is at odds with his history of spreading unproven treatments and rejecting established medical knowledge. In the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic, both Trump and Kennedy promoted unverified treatments like hydroxychloroquine, which has since been proven harmful to many patients. RFK Jr. is also well known for his crusade against fluoride in drinking water—a substance that has played a major role in reducing tooth decay in the U.S. and around the world. His anti-fluoride stance has gained traction among a vocal minority, and should he gain power, he may attempt to roll back fluoridation programs, undermining one of the most significant public health achievements in history. The potential for such a rollback of public health protections is alarming. If Kennedy's influence expands, outbreaks of preventable diseases like measles could rise, especially as vaccine hesitancy grows. His legacy, framed under the banner of “Make America Healthy Again,” could in fact leave the U.S. with a sicker, more vulnerable population. The impact wouldn’t be limited to the U.S. alone. In 2019, Kennedy’s anti-vaccine organization visited Samoa, where a misinformation campaign about the safety of the measles vaccine led to a catastrophic outbreak, killing 83 people. His insistence that a defective vaccine caused the deaths was disproven, but the damage had already been done, with vaccination rates in the country plummeting to just 31%. This is just one example of the global ripple effect that RFK Jr.'s dangerous influence can have. The Trump administration's embrace of Kennedy as a health czar raises troubling questions about the future of public health worldwide. If Kennedy, who has openly criticized the rapid development of COVID vaccines, were to hold a position of power during a future pandemic, the U.S. would likely be much less prepared to respond. The success of Operation Warp Speed, which led to the rapid development of vaccines during the COVID-19 pandemic, would be unlikely to repeat itself if Kennedy were in charge. Ultimately, the health of Americans—and the world—could be at risk. With a distorted reality based on misinformation, RFK Jr.’s rise to power would signal a dangerous departure from scientific consensus, and his policies could lead to the erosion of vital health protections. The risk of increased vaccine-preventable diseases, reduced access to safe medicines, and the spread of dangerous pseudoscience could have long-lasting consequences for global health, far beyond the borders of the United States. Based on a report by The Conversation 2024-11-11 Who funded and architected this article, Pfizer? 2 3 3
dinsdale Posted November 11, 2024 Posted November 11, 2024 10 minutes ago, john donson said: people here allergic to a man that wants to clean up the joke that FDA, CDC , other 3 letter agencies are... they are in the pockets of big pharma google: big pharma biggest fines maybe, just maybe your eyes might open just a little, probably not... This is in relation to Vioxx. By August 2005, 13,000 class action lawsuits had been filed against Merck. By November 2007, Merck had created a settlement fund of $4.85 billion USD, the largest ever in US history at the time. Merck agreed to compensate victims in exchange for a no-fault agreement – specifically, no legal admission of fault. Yet payment of $4.85 billion USD in compensation to claimants could clearly be interpreted as an admission of fault.25,26 When the Vioxx scandal broke, Merck had a capital market value of between $40 and $50 billion USD. Despite the greatest drug scandal in the world, enormous fines and atrocious damage to image, Merck has continued to grow in the last 2 decades and has increased its value six-fold to over $300 billion USD. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/09246479241292008 1
Popular Post dinsdale Posted November 11, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 11, 2024 16 minutes ago, john donson said: people here allergic to a man that wants to clean up the joke that FDA, CDC , other 3 letter agencies are... they are in the pockets of big pharma google: big pharma biggest fines maybe, just maybe your eyes might open just a little, probably not... This should be enough to open anyone's eyes sadly there are none so blind as to those who will not see. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/09246479241292008 1 2
Popular Post CallumWK Posted November 11, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 11, 2024 15 minutes ago, dinsdale said: Merck agreed to compensate victims in exchange for a no-fault agreement – specifically, no legal admission of fault. And that is what's wrong with the law, to allow such settlements, because big med will care even less. The compensations they pay are lump change compared with the profits they made, and they still walk away scot-free 1 1 1
Popular Post owl sees all Posted November 11, 2024 Popular Post Posted November 11, 2024 6 hours ago, Social Media said: One of the most alarming prospects is the potential role Robert F. Kennedy Jr. (RFK Jr.) could play in the Trump administration's handling of public health. After abandoning his own bid for the presidency, RFK Jr. threw his support behind Donald Trump, helping to fuel his campaign with the promise of significant influence in shaping U.S. health policy. Trump has openly stated that he intends to give Kennedy a “big role” in guiding health initiatives, enabling him to make sweeping changes in areas like food, medicine, and public health. This could have disastrous consequences—not only for the United States but for global health as well. RFK Jr. comes from a legacy of American political royalty. He is the son of Robert F. Kennedy, the late U.S. senator and presidential candidate, who was assassinated in 1968. Though RFK Jr. initially made his mark as an environmental lawyer, his recent notoriety stems from his vehement opposition to vaccines and his active role in spreading misinformation. Despite claims that he will not "take anyone’s vaccines away," Kennedy has continued to peddle falsehoods about vaccine safety, including discredited links between vaccines and autism, even as scientific consensus has debunked these claims. Kennedy's position on vaccines and public health is not only deeply concerning but also politically influential. He has claimed that he was promised control over major health agencies in the U.S., including the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), and the National Institutes of Health (NIH). This unprecedented authority would allow Kennedy to dramatically alter the direction of health policy, even without formal cabinet approval. Though such appointments require Congressional approval, Trump's past strategy of appointing acting officials could bypass this obstacle. This raises the possibility that Kennedy, even without an official position, could exert significant influence over U.S. health policy. His vision, based on his anti-science agenda, could undermine decades of progress in public health. The implications of Kennedy's potential role are wide-ranging. For one, his rhetoric about returning health agencies to a “gold-standard, evidence-based science” is at odds with his history of spreading unproven treatments and rejecting established medical knowledge. In the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic, both Trump and Kennedy promoted unverified treatments like hydroxychloroquine, which has since been proven harmful to many patients. RFK Jr. is also well known for his crusade against fluoride in drinking water—a substance that has played a major role in reducing tooth decay in the U.S. and around the world. His anti-fluoride stance has gained traction among a vocal minority, and should he gain power, he may attempt to roll back fluoridation programs, undermining one of the most significant public health achievements in history. The potential for such a rollback of public health protections is alarming. If Kennedy's influence expands, outbreaks of preventable diseases like measles could rise, especially as vaccine hesitancy grows. His legacy, framed under the banner of “Make America Healthy Again,” could in fact leave the U.S. with a sicker, more vulnerable population. The impact wouldn’t be limited to the U.S. alone. In 2019, Kennedy’s anti-vaccine organization visited Samoa, where a misinformation campaign about the safety of the measles vaccine led to a catastrophic outbreak, killing 83 people. His insistence that a defective vaccine caused the deaths was disproven, but the damage had already been done, with vaccination rates in the country plummeting to just 31%. This is just one example of the global ripple effect that RFK Jr.'s dangerous influence can have. The Trump administration's embrace of Kennedy as a health czar raises troubling questions about the future of public health worldwide. If Kennedy, who has openly criticized the rapid development of COVID vaccines, were to hold a position of power during a future pandemic, the U.S. would likely be much less prepared to respond. The success of Operation Warp Speed, which led to the rapid development of vaccines during the COVID-19 pandemic, would be unlikely to repeat itself if Kennedy were in charge. Ultimately, the health of Americans—and the world—could be at risk. With a distorted reality based on misinformation, RFK Jr.’s rise to power would signal a dangerous departure from scientific consensus, and his policies could lead to the erosion of vital health protections. The risk of increased vaccine-preventable diseases, reduced access to safe medicines, and the spread of dangerous pseudoscience could have long-lasting consequences for global health, far beyond the borders of the United States. Based on a report by The Conversation 2024-11-11 This post is completely on the wrong track. Anyone reading it would think the Americans were the healthiest people on the planet and their teeth sparkling like the North Star. Without getting into too much detail, let me suggest that the US (and other western countries) has been completely hoodwinked by Big Pharma and their compromised politicians and funded white-coats.. It's been gradually ramping up since the early 1900s. As for fluoride being good for the teeth. ''fluoride in drinking water—a substance that has played a major role in reducing tooth decay in the U.S. and around the world.'' Utter dangerous nonsense IMO. A waste product good for our health. Give me a break. Simply a hit piece on the upstanding RFK jnr, from a anti-nature angle. 2 2 2 1 2 2
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