Is This A Good Deal?

[stratocaster]

Just walked past a used car tent. December 2023 BYD Seal with 4000 ks. 45,000 baht suspension upgrades. Wrapped with  clear film and 45,000 baht carbon fiber accessories.

1,1 million baht. Even as a petrol head I am tempted. Thoughts?

[Andrew Dwyer]

53 minutes ago, stratocaster said:

Just walked past a used car tent. December 2023 BYD Seal with 4000 ks. 45,000 baht suspension upgrades. Wrapped with  clear film and 45,000 baht carbon fiber accessories.

1,1 million baht. Even as a petrol head I am tempted. Thoughts?

Which model ?

There are 3 models:

Performance @ 1.499m baht

Premium @ 1.399baht 

Dynamic @ 1.199m baht 

Edited Monday at 09:12 AM by Andrew Dwyer

[motdaeng]

would you have made these upgrades to your own car or not? if not, you're paying also for something you don't really want or need.

plus, you probably can’t check the quality or price of these upgrades ...

 

by the way, the byd seal has a special discount offer until the end of the month, up to 240,000 thb ...

 

[JBChiangRai]

The suspension upgrade isn't.  It's a downgrade, it makes it jittery at low to moderate speeds, test drive it and make sure you're happy.

 

I'm sure the model is a Performance as Thais believe the new spring and damper setup improves it floating at very high speeds.

 

I think the price is pretty good, the clear film is worth having, just make sure you know where to take it if something goes wrong, it probably has a warranty.

[motdaeng]

sorry, a little bit off topic, but can changes to the suspension affect the car warranty?

[Presnock]

15 hours ago, stratocaster said:

Just walked past a used car tent. December 2023 BYD Seal with 4000 ks. 45,000 baht suspension upgrades. Wrapped with  clear film and 45,000 baht carbon fiber accessories.

1,1 million baht. Even as a petrol head I am tempted. Thoughts?

with all the flooding, make sure you have a qualified business check out the vehicle top to bottom.

[DaRoadrunner]

Chinese cars depreciate alarmingly. Up to 50% in the first year. Saw a BYD Seal advertised on Facebook Marketplace for 995K, don't know which version it was. I would guess the trade in value of one to be around 800K. It looks a bargain until you have to buy a new battery at around 7 years old. Check cost of battery!

[josephbloggs]

8 minutes ago, DaRoadrunner said:

Chinese cars depreciate alarmingly. Up to 50% in the first year. Saw a BYD Seal advertised on Facebook Marketplace for 995K, don't know which version it was. I would guess the trade in value of one to be around 800K. It looks a bargain until you have to buy a new battery at around 7 years old. Check cost of battery!

Who's buying a new battery after seven years? Seven years would still be under warranty. And LFP batteries have been proven to last much much longer.

Just more misinformed nonsense.

[UWEB]

14 minutes ago, DaRoadrunner said:

Chinese cars depreciate alarmingly. Up to 50% in the first year. Saw a BYD Seal advertised on Facebook Marketplace for 995K, don't know which version it was. I would guess the trade in value of one to be around 800K. It looks a bargain until you have to buy a new battery at around 7 years old. Check cost of battery!

What a nonsense, Seal Batteries having a warranty of 8 years.

[JBChiangRai]

31 minutes ago, DaRoadrunner said:

Chinese cars depreciate alarmingly. Up to 50% in the first year. Saw a BYD Seal advertised on Facebook Marketplace for 995K, don't know which version it was. I would guess the trade in value of one to be around 800K. It looks a bargain until you have to buy a new battery at around 7 years old. Check cost of battery!

 

Batteries are expected to last 18-25 years.  You're misinformed.

[DaRoadrunner]

On 11/14/2024 at 3:22 PM, UWEB said:

What a nonsense, Seal Batteries having a warranty of 8 years.

So what happens on year 9? It is nearly 10000 US$ for new batteries.

[DaRoadrunner]

23 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

 

Batteries are expected to last 18-25 years.  You're misinformed.

Did some Thai car dealer tell you that? And you believed him?

[JBChiangRai]

1 hour ago, DaRoadrunner said:

So what happens on year 9? It is nearly 10000 US$ for new batteries.

 

1 hour ago, DaRoadrunner said:

Did some Thai car dealer tell you that? And you believed him?

 

Some ICE cars have a warranty of 3 years, what happens in the 4th year?  Some Mercedes engines cost $60,000

 

Estimates for how long EV batteries last are at least 200,000 miles. There are reports of EVs already achieving more than 300,000 miles on the original battery.

EV batteries are generally under warranty for 8 years or 100,000 miles, but new EV batteries are lasting much longer. Tesla claims its EV batteries should last up to 500,000 miles. Assuming a gas car would last for 200,000 miles, choosing an EV could be like getting two cars for the price of one.

 

I posted a few links below, I could post dozens more, but I think you get the point.

 

I suspect you think EV's catch fire more often than ICE cars and that Thailand doesn't have many Charging Stations too.

 

How Long Can Electric Car Batteries Last? Updated 2024 - Coltura

How Long Do Electric Car Batteries Last?

How long do electric car batteries last? [May 2023] | EVBox

Don’t Worry About Replacing Your EV Battery

How Long Do Electric Car Batteries Last? | Geotab

Edited 23 hours ago by JBChiangRai
Spellification

[G_Money]

5 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

 

 

Some ICE cars have a warranty of 3 years, what happens in the 9th year?  Some Mercedes engines cost $60,000

 

Estimates for how long EV batteries last are at least 200,000 miles. There are reports of EVs already achieving more than 300,000 miles on the original battery.

EV batteries are generally under warranty for 8 years or 100,000 miles, but new EV batteries are lasting much longer. Tesla claims its EV batteries should last up to 500,000 miles. Assuming a gas car would last for 200,000 miles, choosing an EV could be like getting two cars for the price of one.

 

I posted a few links below, I could post dozens more, but I think you get the point.

 

I suspect you think EV's catch fire more often than ICE cars and that Thailand doesn't have many Charging Stations too.

 

How Long Can Electric Car Batteries Last? Updated 2024 - Coltura

How Long Do Electric Car Batteries Last?

How long do electric car batteries last? [May 2023] | EVBox

Don’t Worry About Replacing Your EV Battery

How Long Do Electric Car Batteries Last? | Geotab

How much are Japanese engines?  60k or less?

[UWEB]

1 hour ago, DaRoadrunner said:

So what happens on year 9? It is nearly 10000 US$ for new batteries.

So what happens to your TV, Fridge, Coffee Machine,Cooker,etc the year after the warranty has expired? They are all not usable anymore and you through them away and buy new one?

[JBChiangRai]

8 minutes ago, G_Money said:

How much are Japanese engines?  60k or less?

 

How long is a piece of string?

[G_Money]

2 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

 

How long is a piece of string?

So why reference the most expensive?  Mercedes.

[JBChiangRai]

Just now, G_Money said:

So why reference the most expensive?  Mercedes.

 

Why reference Japanese engines?

[G_Money]

10 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

 

Why reference Japanese engines?

 
Because they are less expensive than Mercedes.

You used the most expensive of the two engines when referencing changing out 100k batteries in a EV.

 

Your obviously trying to justify the 100k batteries to a Mercedes engine, more expensive of the two.

Huge difference between your 60k and mine.
 

 

Edited 22 hours ago by G_Money

[JBChiangRai]

1 minute ago, G_Money said:

 
Because they are less expensive than Mercedes.

You used the most expensive of the two engines when referencing changing out 100k batteries in a EV.

 

Your obviously trying to justify the 100k batteries to a Mercedes engine, more expensive of the two.

 

 

 

His post said it is nearly $10,000 for new batteries, not $100,000 as you typed. That $10,000 is for the most expensive batteries.

 

OK so let's compare more mainstream ICE replacement engines

Rank	Car Brand	Engine Replacement Cost
1	Ford	$8,000 - $15,000
2	Cadillac	$6,000 - $12,000
3	BMW	$5,000 - $10,000
4	Mercedes-Benz	$5,000 - $10,000

 

They seem to fairly identical to new batteries wouldn't you say?

 

I ridiculed his post for 2 reasons, first that a battery or any device would fail the year after the warranty, and secondly to draw attention to the nonsense price of a new battery when EV batteries are expected to last the same or longer than an ICE and cost the same.

[G_Money]

4 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

 

His post said it is nearly $10,000 for new batteries, not $100,000 as you typed. That $10,000 is for the most expensive batteries.

 

OK so let's compare more mainstream ICE replacement engines

Rank	Car Brand	Engine Replacement Cost
1	Ford	$8,000 - $15,000
2	Cadillac	$6,000 - $12,000
3	BMW	$5,000 - $10,000
4	Mercedes-Benz	$5,000 - $10,000

 

They seem to fairly identical to new batteries wouldn't you say?

 

I ridiculed his post for 2 reasons, first that a battery or any device would fail the year after the warranty, and secondly to draw attention to the nonsense price of a new battery when EV batteries are expected to last the same or longer than an ICE and cost the same.

Ok, delete a 0.

 

Why no Japanese car reference?

 

Why did you originally quote 60k for Mercedes.

Edited 22 hours ago by G_Money

[JBChiangRai]

Just now, G_Money said:

Ok, delete a 0.

 

Why no Japanese car reference?

 

Well....

 

I didn't reference Italian cars, or French cars, or Russian cars, or Spanish cars, or American cars, or British cars. 

 

Is there a reason you specifically wanted me to reference Japanese cars?

[G_Money]

5 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

 

Well....

 

I didn't reference Italian cars, or French cars, or Russian cars, or Spanish cars, or American cars, or British cars. 

 

Is there a reason you specifically wanted me to reference Japanese cars?

More common than the ones mentioned above.

Where did you get 60k from?

 

Regardless, I would never ever buy a EV.  Trump as President will ensure no one would be forced to if leftists are in charge.

 

 

[JBChiangRai]

15 minutes ago, G_Money said:

More common than the ones mentioned above.

Where did you get 60k from?

 

 

 

This guy was quoted $55k 7 years ago for a C63 engine. 

 

 

Close to around $55k,at least that's what I was quoted by the dealership when I bought my car. They warned me to take care of my engine or else it'll be that. Can't imagine the newer ones to be any cheaper.

[JBChiangRai]

PS I wouldn't buy a Tesla either.

[josephbloggs]

23 minutes ago, G_Money said:

More common than the ones mentioned above.

Where did you get 60k from?

 

Regardless, I would never ever buy a EV.  Trump as President will ensure no one would be forced to if leftists are in charge.

 

 

 

Do you believe everyone gets electrocuted if an electric boat sinks?
Do you believe an EV needs charging every 15 minutes?

Trump believes both those things.

Why do Trumpists get so hot and bothered about EVs? Why so triggered about a car you'll never buy? 

[G_Money]

3 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

Do you believe everyone gets electrocuted if an electric boat sinks?
Do you believe an EV needs charging every 15 minutes?

Trump believes both those things.

Why do Trumpists get so hot and bothered about EVs? Why so triggered about a car you'll never buy? 

The idea of mandating EV is alarming.  And you think Trump is the dictator.

 

I’m keeping my gas stove too 

[UWEB]

28 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

Do you believe everyone gets electrocuted if an electric boat sinks?
Do you believe an EV needs charging every 15 minutes?

Trump believes both those things.

Why do Trumpists get so hot and bothered about EVs? Why so triggered about a car you'll never buy? 

Wondering how it will work out that the Boss of one of the biggest EV Car makers is member of the Trump Team.

[Smokin Joe]

6 minutes ago, UWEB said:

Wondering how it will work out that the Boss of one of the biggest EV Car makers is member of the Trump Team.

 

And also the fact that Space X makes a few dollars from NASA as a government contractor.

[DaRoadrunner]

There are fields in China full of unwanted first generation electric cars. Nobody wants em, worthless. Battery technology keeps progressing at such a rate the cars become obsolete. Am I going to buy a new Chinese electric car?