U.S. Senators Introduce Legislation to Counter UN Actions Against Israel

[mokwit]

7 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

legimate targets under the Geneva Conventions

Really, so Israel must be bound by the Geneva convention.

[Nick Carter icp]

3 hours ago, mokwit said:

Really, so Israel must be bound by the Geneva convention.

 

   Are you asking a question or making statement ?

[stevenl]

3 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

Yes, they do.  Hamas has dug a vast system of tunnels under residential buildings, schools, shops, hospitals, etc.  The tunnels are used for  military purposes and smuggling and are legimate targets under the Geneva Conventions.  The Palestinians who live, work or study in the buildings atop the tunnels have become involuntary human shields.

 

"Snaking beneath dense residential areas, the passageways allow fighters to move around free from the eye of the enemy. There are also bunkers for stockpiling weapons, food and water, and even command centers and tunnels wide enough for vehicles, researchers believe. Ordinary-looking doors and hatches serve as disguised access points, letting Hamas fighters dart out on missions and then slip back out of sight."  https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/11/10/world/europe/hamas-gaza-tunnels.html#:~:text=After Hamas came to power in 2007%2C and,and electronic equipment to construction materials and fuel.

 

The State of Palestine is a signatory nation to all the Geneva Conventions.  The Fourth Geneva Convention in Article 28 states,  "The presence of a protected person may not be used to render certain points or areas immune from military operations."   https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/documents/atrocity-crimes/Doc.33_GC-IV-EN.pdf    By using non-combatants  as human shields,  Hamas and ultimately the State of Palestine is violating the Geneva Convention and committing a war crime.

Always the same, cheap excuse to kill indiscriminately. And that for an operation thas has no chance at all of achieving the objective of eliminating Hamas 

[mokwit]

6 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Are you asking a question or making statement ?

The point I am making is that people are saying Israel is entitled to bomb civilians according to the Geneva convention*, but they can't have it both ways, they must abide by the Geneva convention in their actions.

 

Sorry, but I don't share your enthusiasm for what Israel is doing. Israel is not whiter than white and nor does the Hamas attack make it so.

 

*has war even been declared?

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[Nick Carter icp]

1 minute ago, mokwit said:

The point I am making is that people are saying Israel is entitled to bomb civilians according to the Geneva convention*, but they can't have it both ways, they must abide by the Geneva convention in their actions.

 

Sorry, but I don't share your enthusiasm for what Israel is doing.

 

*has war even been declared?

   

   Hamas don't abide by any rules or regulations or conventions or agreements .

   If one side don't play by the rules, then why should the other ?

[mokwit]

If that argument applies then footage of an Israeli settler summarily executing a Palestinian justifies Hamas actions.

 

Sorry, but I don't share your enthusiasm for what Israel is doing. Israel is not whiter than white and nor does the Hamas attack make it so.

 

Having seen the footage and the comments by Israelis and American Jews online and Israelis on state media I don't ever want to hear Israels story again again. It turns out you are fine with genocide. Targeted eliminations of those carrying out the attacks and the command structure would have been recognised as justified.

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[Nick Carter icp]

5 minutes ago, mokwit said:

It turns out you are fine with genocide. Targeted eliminations of those carrying out the attacks and the command structure would have been recognised as justified.

 

Hamas and Hezbollah have indeed been targeted and there is no genocide going on 

  

[coolcarer]

3 hours ago, stevenl said:

Always the same, cheap excuse to kill indiscriminately. And that for an operation thas has no chance at all of achieving the objective of eliminating Hamas 

Another one outed claiming that Israel was looking for a cheap excuse to kill indiscriminately. What a disgusting slur.

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[stevenl]

1 hour ago, coolcarer said:

Another one outed claiming that Israel was looking for a cheap excuse to kill indiscriminately. What a disgusting slur.

Indiscriminately was not the right word. I'm convinced they are targeting terrorists, but don't care how many innocent students are killed in doing that. And putting that all on Hamas is a cheap excuse.

[Nick Carter icp]

17 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Indiscriminately was not the right word. I'm convinced they are targeting terrorists, but don't care how many innocent students are killed in doing that. And putting that all on Hamas is a cheap excuse.

 

   How else could Israel get the terrorists who attacked them ?

Why don't Hamas distance themselves from civilians ?

[Nick Carter icp]

5 hours ago, mokwit said:

 

*has war even been declared?

 

   Is that a genuine question ?

Yes, Israel declared war on Oct 8 th

[Yellowtail]

The UN needs to be moved to Turkey 

[coolcarer]

7 hours ago, stevenl said:

Indiscriminately was not the right word. I'm convinced they are targeting terrorists, but don't care how many innocent students are killed in doing that. And putting that all on Hamas is a cheap excuse.

Too late. The veil slipped. No possibility of walking back from that and your further accusations that they do not care is just as disgusting. If that was the case evacuation orders would not happen and many other interventions that are put in place.

[stevenl]

7 hours ago, coolcarer said:

Too late. The veil slipped. No possibility of walking back from that and your further accusations that they do not care is just as disgusting. If that was the case evacuation orders would not happen and many other interventions that are put in place.

The veil slipped, what nonsense.

It's obvious they don't care.

[coolcarer]

14 minutes ago, stevenl said:

The veil slipped, what nonsense.

It's obvious they don't care.

Yep. What maybe obvious to you, someone who believes that they don’t care is not obvious to the facts on the ground. Thanks for displaying just how impartial you are

 

[Yagoda]

The best solution to the UN problem is to cut it off. We pay for it and if they dont want to play nice, ta ta, dont let the door hit you in the butt.

[Yagoda]

1 hour ago, stevenl said:

The veil slipped, what nonsense.

It's obvious they don't care.

War is hell, dont start one.

 

The whole Middle East is ripe for permanent peace. All we need is a few months worth of sanctions on Iran, as well as a couple of bunker Busters. 

[koolkarl]

On 11/16/2024 at 2:06 PM, Anant72 said:

What is your definition of common sense?

Supporting the good guys and not evil.