Biden allows Ukraine to use long range missiles.

[thaibeachlovers]

One wonders if Trump was consulted, but one suspects it's Biden laying a booby trap for Trump by escalating the war before he leaves office.

 

One also suspects that any such attack on a Russian city will result in a more unpleasant attack on Kiev than those currently happening.

 

Whatever the reason for the authorisation, it isn't going to win the war for Zelensky, but it will result in more deaths than without.

 

 

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/ap-sources-biden-time-oks-ukraines-us-supplied-115948595

President Joe Biden has authorized the use of U.S.-supplied long-range missiles by Ukraine to strike even deeper inside Russia

[AlexRich]

Too little, too late. Biden should not have allowed himself to be deterred by Putin’s bogus “red lines”. 

[Gweiloman]

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

 

 

One also suspects that any such attack on a Russian city will result in a more unpleasant attack on Kiev than those currently happening.

 

Whatever the reason for the authorisation, it isn't going to win the war for Zelensky, but it will result in more deaths than without.

 

 

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/ap-sources-biden-time-oks-ukraines-us-supplied-115948595

President Joe Biden has authorized the use of U.S.-supplied long-range missiles by Ukraine to strike even deeper inside Russia

The neocons don’t care. They are willing to fight to the last Ukrainian just to weaken Russia and then to take on China next. Only problem for them is that instead of getting weaker, they (Russia) are actually getting stronger.

[Gweiloman]

3 hours ago, AlexRich said:

Too little, too late. Biden should not have allowed himself to be deterred by Putin’s bogus “red lines”. 

You are right about the bogus “red lines”. Putin never said that long range missiles were a red line. This is merely something the western msm made up, along with multiple other bogus red lines.

[Paul Catton]

 

It is not simply, just a question of allowing use.

 

Putin has previously said that giving Ukraine the green light on missile use would effectively mean that the U.S. and NATO are "in the war."

"Flight assignments for these missile systems can, in fact, only be entered by military personnel from NATO countries. Ukrainian servicemen cannot do this. And therefore, it is not a question of allowing the Ukrainian regime to strike Russia with these weapons or not. It is a question of making a decision whether NATO countries directly participate in the military conflict or not," Putin said in September.

"If this decision is made, it will mean nothing less than the direct participation of NATO countries, the United States, and European countries, in the war in Ukraine," he added.

 

Source.https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-authorizes-ukraine-use-us-long-range-missiles-strike-inside-russia-report

[herfiehandbag]

6 minutes ago, Paul Catton said:

Flight assignments for these missile systems can, in fact, only be entered by military personnel from NATO countries. Ukrainian servicemen cannot do this. And therefore, it is not a question of allowing the Ukrainian regime to strike Russia with these weapons or not. It is a question of making a decision whether NATO countries directly participate in the military conflict or not," Putin said in September.

It would take a matter of hours to teach Ukrainian crews to programme and launch these weapons, even whilst Kiev and other Ukrainian cities are under a daily barrage of missile and drone attacks, aimed at destroying the power grid as winter approaches!

[jas007]

15 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

It would take a matter of hours to teach Ukrainian crews to programme and launch these weapons, even whilst Kiev and other Ukrainian cities are under a daily barrage of missile and drone attacks, aimed at destroying the power grid as winter approaches!

I'm pretty sure it's not that simple.  These are precision weapons that require satellite use and addition infrastructure as part of the targeting process.  Ukraine doesn't control any of that. 

[jas007]

5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

One wonders if Trump was consulted, but one suspects it's Biden laying a booby trap for Trump by escalating the war before he leaves office.

 

One also suspects that any such attack on a Russian city will result in a more unpleasant attack on Kiev than those currently happening.

 

Whatever the reason for the authorisation, it isn't going to win the war for Zelensky, but it will result in more deaths than without.

 

 

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/ap-sources-biden-time-oks-ukraines-us-supplied-115948595

President Joe Biden has authorized the use of U.S.-supplied long-range missiles by Ukraine to strike even deeper inside Russia

You can absolutely bet that this escalation isn't really about Ukraine "winning" the war.  There are ulterior motives. The Deep State will do anything to keep Trump from becoming president again.  Anyway, perhaps Putin will show some restraint.  None of this nonsense is necessary and Trump will surely find a way to end the fighting. 

[thaibeachlovers]

1 minute ago, jas007 said:

You can absolutely bet that this escalation isn't really about Ukraine "winning" the war.  There are ulterior motives. The Deep State will do anything to keep Trump from becoming president again.  Anyway, perhaps Putin will show some restraint.  None of this nonsense is necessary and Trump will surely find a way to end the fighting. 

He already has. The talk about negotiations only happened after he won.

[jas007]

32 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

He already has. The talk about negotiations only happened after he won.

Trump won the election, but he has yet to be inaugurated. So, something is up, for sure.  There's no need to give Ukraine long range missiles at this point.  The war has already been lost.  What's the real motive?

[Jingthing]

2 minutes ago, jas007 said:

Trump won the election, but he has yet to be inaugurated. So, something is up, for sure.  There's no need to give Ukraine long range missiles at this point.  The war has already been lost.  What's the real motive?

Vladimir thanks you.

[Denim]

Already a thread on this here. Might as well close this.

 

 

[anandra]

6 minutes ago, jas007 said:

Trump won the election, but he has yet to be inaugurated. So, something is up, for sure.  There's no need to give Ukraine long range missiles at this point.  The war has already been lost.  What's the real motive?

do you think biden cares about ruski afvice?😂

[pattayasan]

8 minutes ago, jas007 said:

Trump won the election, but he has yet to be inaugurated. So, something is up, for sure.  There's no need to give Ukraine long range missiles at this point.  The war has already been lost.  What's the real motive?

 

To let the Ukrainians kill lots and lots of Russians and North Koreans.

 

[metisdead]

Please continue in the topic already running here:

 

 

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