This is what Brits fought for

[Celsius]

and this is why Trump won biggie

 

 

Edited Wednesday at 05:00 PM by Celsius

[ModdaPunk]

Are you talking about the Leeds man who's been jailed for 20 months for encouraging people on social media to attack a hotel in Leeds housing migrants ?

[Evil Penevil]

 

Fact Check: Clipped video of man’s sentencing over social media comments is misleading  

By Reuters Fact Check   

https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/clipped-video-mans-sentencing-over-social-media-comments-is-misleading-2024-08-16/

 

"A video of a judge sentencing a man in Britain over comments he made on social media has been clipped to suggest the conviction centred on a remark about not wanting to give money to migrants.

Jordan Parlour, 28, from Seacroft in Leeds, pleaded guilty on Aug. 6 to using threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour intending to stir up racial hatred."

[Yagoda]

8 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

 

Fact Check: Clipped video of man’s sentencing over social media comments is misleading  

By Reuters Fact Check   

https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/clipped-video-mans-sentencing-over-social-media-comments-is-misleading-2024-08-16/

 

"A video of a judge sentencing a man in Britain over comments he made on social media has been clipped to suggest the conviction centred on a remark about not wanting to give money to migrants.

Jordan Parlour, 28, from Seacroft in Leeds, pleaded guilty on Aug. 6 to using threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour intending to stir up racial hatred."

Got it.

 

So if I say in London:

 

"These Muslim migrants seek to impose their anti freedom, hateful, barbaric and misogynist laws and culture on us and they should be shipped out of our country"

 

Thats OK?

[G_Money]

Finally!  A thread for the non Americans to voice their concerns.

 

But the usual suspects are no where to be found.

 

Appears they prefer the USA with Trump.

[Evil Penevil]

10 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Got it.

 

So if I say in London:

 

"These Muslim migrants seek to impose their anti freedom, hateful, barbaric and misogynist laws and culture on us and they should be shipped out of our country"

 

Thats OK?

 

I don't have any expertise on the topic, but my take from across the Atlantic is that it would depend on the circumstances.  The U.K. law on hate speech specifies the words must be intended to provoke violence, not merely that there's a possibility they could.  To use a classic example, shouting "Fire!" in a crowded theater could result in criminal charges, but writing "Fire!" in an X or Facebook post wouldn't.  It's not the words themselves that violate the law, but their intended effect.

 

However, since the example you gave doesn't include any incitement to action, it would most likely be OK as an expression of opinion on the Internet.  If you spoke the words in London, it could depend on the circumstances and to whom you were speaking.  If someone reported your speech, the police, prosecutor or judge/jury would have to decide on your intent.

[Yagoda]

Who decides what is incitement to action?

[Evil Penevil]

6 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Who decides what is incitement to action?

 

The police investigate and if they believe a violation of the law in terms of incitement to action has occurred, they will pass the evidence on to a prosecutor, who will determine if it warrants prosecution.  The prosecutor presents the case to a judge or judge and jury, which will decide if the defendant is guilty.  

[Nick Carter icp]

1 hour ago, On-my-way-Home said:

😎 Them Brits have now taken 2nd place to pulling America’s chain.  Israel runs the show now & for many years already.  They (Israelis) rule Washington.   
 

Having such a good time in LOS but WW3 can end it in a heartbeat!  😁

 

   So Jews control the world ?

Banks and Hollywood  ?

[tai4de2]

4 hours ago, G_Money said:

“They (Israelis) rule Washington.“

 

I was unaware of this opinion.  

 

I can see how someone might be unaware of this opinion because it's been thinly and disingenuously stated in terms of Israelis instead of being nakedly stated as the ole' fashioned Jew-hating that it actually is.

[G_Money]

29 minutes ago, tai4de2 said:

 

I can see how someone might be unaware of this opinion because it's been thinly and disingenuously stated in terms of Israelis instead of being nakedly stated as the ole' fashioned Jew-hating that it actually is.

OK, it’s even clearer now that you explained it in detail,

[GypsyT]

10 hours ago, On-my-way-Home said:

Them Brits have now taken 2nd place to pulling America’s chain.  Israel runs the show now & for many years already.  They (Israelis) rule Washington.   

Right on!

They told Donny boy "We want you to move Embassy" and that's what happened. They got him by the balls...

 

"That included right-wing American Jews whose message was amplified by the conservative orthodox Jews dominating Mr Trump's inner circle."

 

US and Brits were at fault in the beginning to put "dogs and cats in same pen".

 

https://history.state.gov/milestones/1945-1952/creation-israel

 

[quake]

Quote

The United Kingdom is out of control, those there are victims of leftist dictatorship. Enoch Powell was correct

 

Hear, Hear.

 

[Yagoda]

10 hours ago, On-my-way-Home said:

😎 Them Brits have now taken 2nd place to pulling America’s chain.  Israel runs the show now & for many years already.  They (Israelis) rule Washington.   
 

Having such a good time in LOS but WW3 can end it in a heartbeat!  😁

About time when someone with brains ruled Washington

[Yagoda]

12 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

 

The police investigate and if they believe a violation of the law in terms of incitement to action has occurred, they will pass the evidence on to a prosecutor, who will determine if it warrants prosecution.  The prosecutor presents the case to a judge or judge and jury, which will decide if the defendant is guilty.  

Got it, so what you say is dependent on someone else's interpretation. Ps there is no rule about shouting fire in a crowded theater

[On-my-way-Home]

7 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

About time when someone with brains ruled Washington

Brains?  Brawn too.  The absolute masters of chain pulling.  The CHOSEN people concept hypnotizes the mighty giant known as America into ignoring my homeless friends sleeping under bridges & elsewhere all over & instead doing this see below
 

 

1999, the U.S. government signed a commitment to provide Israel with at least US$2.7 billion in military aid annually for ten years; in 2009 it was raised to $3 billion; and in 2019 raised to a minimum of US$3.8 billion.

 

 

[James105]

12 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

 

The police investigate and if they believe a violation of the law in terms of incitement to action has occurred, they will pass the evidence on to a prosecutor, who will determine if it warrants prosecution.  The prosecutor presents the case to a judge or judge and jury, which will decide if the defendant is guilty.  

 

These cases are a bit different though.  The defendants in these cases were remanded in custody (for tweets) and had their freedom effectively taken away for an unspecified amount of time.   What happened then is that they were encouraged to plead guilty to reduce their sentences to get back their freedom.  The charges were inflated as I don't think there has ever been a proven causal link between what someone has posted online and actual violence being committed.  Since these are not career criminals and had not had dealings with the law previously they accepted the advice and were given jail sentences for first offenses... for tweets.  

 

Had they pleaded not guilty its highly unlikely they would have been convicted, but they still would have been punished by the process anyway as they lost their freedom by being held in custody until the trial... for tweets.  

 

The one person I am aware of who did plead not guilty to these inflated nonsensical charges was found not guilty by a jury.  

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpqd9ljgqd9o

 

 

[Yagoda]

13 minutes ago, On-my-way-Home said:

Brains?  Brawn too.  The absolute masters of chain pulling.  The CHOSEN people concept hypnotizes the mighty giant known as America into ignoring my homeless friends sleeping under bridges & elsewhere all over & instead doing this see below
 

 

1999, the U.S. government signed a commitment to provide Israel with at least US$2.7 billion in military aid annually for ten years; in 2009 it was raised to $3 billion; and in 2019 raised to a minimum of US$3.8 billion.

 

 

Well you need to be friends with the best and most powerful. After all, the Jews are only .002% of the population of the world yet have 60% of the Medicine Nobel Prizes. So if we are going be ruled behind the scenes, its best to be ruled by smart people.

 

Not like those stupid National Socialists, even a Jewish toddler knows invading Russia in the winter wont make it.

 

They are kind people too, after all, it takes a lot of evil before they page you for correction.

 

Whats your solution to Jewish rule over the USA and Great Britain?

[On-my-way-Home]

10 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Well you need to be friends with the best and most powerful. After all, the Jews are only .002% of the population of the world yet have 60% of the Medicine Nobel Prizes. So if we are going be ruled behind the scenes, its best to be ruled by smart people.

 

Not like those stupid National Socialists, even a Jewish toddler knows invading Russia in the winter wont make it.

 

They are kind people too, after all, it takes a lot of evil before they page you for correction.

 

Whats your solution to Jewish rule over the USA and Great Britain?

Your so-called smart people did this … see below

 

 

 

[Yagoda]

6 minutes ago, On-my-way-Home said:

Your so-called smart people did this … see below

 

 

 

Hell yeah dude, nothing beats a good crucifixion. Got to make sure folks toe the line. Whats your point?

[On-my-way-Home]

14 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Whats your solution to Jewish rule over the USA and Great Britain?

My solution is simple:  Dump ‘em! And Dump the other scammer (Ukraine) too!

 

US Constitution offers the best advice:

 

Do NOT get involved in the affairs of other nations 

 

and I’m adding 😁😏 Take care of our own FIRST - pour resources into helping our own flourish & prosper.  

[kevozman1]

This is brainwashing crap that they feed to Americans who are disconnected from the world, but still think they will know what is going on from one or two articles on the internet. In Europe you will not be jailed for these type of comments anywhere my guy. For threatening violence online it's possible to be prosecuted, if you're dumb enough to confess to it. Get out of your condo and get some fresh air.. What is true is in a couple of countries in Europe holocaust denial was (maybe still is) an offense that can land people in jail which is a disgrace. 

Edited yesterday at 01:38 AM by kevozman1

[Yagoda]

Just now, On-my-way-Home said:

My solution is simple:  Dump ‘em! And Dump the other scammer (Ukraine) too!

 

US Constitution offers the best advice:

 

Do NOT get involved in the affairs of other nations 

 

and I’m adding 😁😏 Take care of our own FIRST - pour resources into helping our own flourish & prosper.  

Got it. So dump our best ally, whose technological Military prowess is afforded ONLY to us, because some mouth breathers are yammering about a Jew getting crucified by the Romans 2000 years ago? How does one follow the other?

 

By the way, whats "our own"? Does that include ALL Americans, even the Jewish ones?. What is a Jew btw? How do we identify these crucifying scammers? They have a badge or something?

[On-my-way-Home]

1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

Hell yeah dude, nothing beats a good crucifixion. Got to make sure folks toe the line. Whats your point?

My point?  Look what the chosen people did to HIM?  What Father would ignore his son’s torment?  Hence the absolute departure of the Father.  He has long since left the area known as Israel.  
 

Israel paying dearly for this transgression will cause us to pay with high odds of WW3 

 

Dump ‘em!  

[Yagoda]

Just now, kevozman1 said:

This is brainwashing crap that they feed to Americans who are disconnected from the world, but still think they will know what is going on from one or two articles on the internet. In Europe you will not be jailed for these type of comments anywhere my guy. For threatening violence online it's possible to be prosecuted online, if you're dumb enough to confess to it. Get out of your condo and get some fresh air..

Fabulous. May I borrow that, edited, for future use?

 

"This is brainwashing crap that they feed to Europeans who are disconnected from the world, but still think they will know what is going on from one or two articles on the internet"

[On-my-way-Home]

5 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Got it. So dump our best ally, whose technological Military prowess is afforded ONLY to us, because some mouth breathers are yammering about a Jew getting crucified by the Romans 2000 years ago? How does one follow the other?

 

By the way, whats "our own"? Does that include ALL Americans, even the Jewish ones?. What is a Jew btw? How do we identify these crucifying scammers? They have a badge or something?

Yes, ALL Americans, Jewish Americans too!  Ukrainian Americans too!  👍

[Yagoda]

2 minutes ago, On-my-way-Home said:

My point?  Look what the chosen people did to HIM?  What Father would ignore his son’s torment?  Hence the absolute departure of the Father.  He has long since left the area known as Israel.  
 

Israel paying dearly for this transgression will cause us to pay with high odds of WW3 

 

Dump ‘em!  

Got it. Gods will. Hey got some quotes from God to show hes left the building so to speak?

 

Do you think the Jews are evil?

 

 

[Yagoda]

Just now, On-my-way-Home said:

Yes, ALL Americans, Jewish Americans too!  Ukrainian Americans too!  👍

So Jews are ok in your world, as long as they are American?

[mdr224]

8 minutes ago, On-my-way-Home said:

My point?  Look what the chosen people did to HIM?  What Father would ignore his son’s torment?  Hence the absolute departure of the Father.  He has long since left the area known as Israel.  
 

Israel paying dearly for this transgression will cause us to pay with high odds of WW3 

 

Dump ‘em!  

If thailand deserves a nuke its only because it seems to always attract your type

Edited yesterday at 01:45 AM by mdr224

[kevozman1]

12 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Fabulous. May I borrow that, edited, for future use?

 

"This is brainwashing crap that they feed to Europeans who are disconnected from the world, but still think they will know what is going on from one or two articles on the internet"

 

Go for it. We have some delusional liberals also, but luckily a lot of Europeans are still grounded to reality. I like that.