snoop1130 Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago A Thai app-based delivery rider paid 20,000 baht in compensation to a female client after physically assaulting her over a confusing address. The 35 year old victim, Natchacha, filed a complaint against the delivery rider, 41 year old Apidate Boonsong, at Khukot Police Station on Friday, November 15, following the incident, which occurred at 6.30pm that day. Natchacha explained that she booked the delivery rider to pick up a document and deliver it to her home in Soi Prayun Thammaram Temple, also known as Soi Phahonyothin 83, in Pathum Thani province near Bangkok. The rider later called her, expressing anger as he was unable to locate her home. Natchacha provided further directions until he arrived. However, he remained angry and complained about the confusing location. During the heated argument, Natchacha accidentally dropped the document on the ground and bent down to pick it up. While she was doing so, the rider, Apidate, kicked her in the right leg. As a result, she suffered a bruise. The rider then boasted that he dared to assault her and was unafraid of legal consequences, claiming his younger brother was a police officer. He then sped away from the scene but Natchacha managed to photograph his motorcycle’s registration plate. Natchacha presented the photograph as evidence when filing her complaint against Apidate, leading to his summons to the police station yesterday, November 20. The rider’s claim about his brother being a police officer appeared to be a lie, as Apidate was fined 1,000 baht and ordered to pay 20,000 baht in compensation to Natchacha. In an interview with ThaiRath, Apidate apologised to both the victim and the public. He claimed he lost control of himself due to anger and exhaustion from trying to locate the client’s home. He added that he did not expect his kick to cause an injury. Apidate appealed to the public for forgiveness and requested to be allowed to continue working as a delivery rider to support himself. There was no report on whether the delivery platform would revoke his account following this incident. By Petch Petpailin Photo via ThaiRath Source: The Thaiger -- 2024-11-21 1
NoDisplayName Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 3 minutes ago, snoop1130 said: The rider’s claim about his brother being a police officer appeared to be a lie, as Apidate was fined 1,000 baht and ordered to pay 20,000 baht in compensation to Natchacha. Interesting choice of words........... 1 2
richard_smith237 Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago Scum - thats the second 'Moto-taxi' rider who's assaulted a woman this week. Just this week I had 'grab food' delivery rider get visibly annoyed with me - my house wasn't where he decided it should be... .... Some of these characters are visibly unhinged, its not a great job and I tip them etc... but still, a handful are just wrong-un's and thats Bangkok, its seems some of them are even more 'edgy' in Phuket.. .
BangkokReady Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 2 hours ago, snoop1130 said: The rider later called her, expressing anger as he was unable to locate her home. Natchacha provided further directions until he arrived. However, he remained angry and complained about the confusing location. It's amazing how many professional drivers/riders seem to not use satnav. 1
BangkokReady Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 1 hour ago, NoDisplayName said: Interesting choice of words........... Indeed. He could have been telling the truth and has a younger brother who is a police officer, it simply didn't change anything.
BangkokReady Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago Seems like reports of these things are on the rise. I wonder if the crimes are happening more, or if people are more willing to report them?
richard_smith237 Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 11 minutes ago, BangkokReady said: Seems like reports of these things are on the rise. I wonder if the crimes are happening more, or if people are more willing to report them? I think its the 'contagion effect'... Whereby once attention is drawn to a specific occurrence, other similar occurrences draw further attention.. For example: there has not been reports of a 'dog' attack recently - but, once one big story hits the headlines, there are suddenly more stories about other dog attacks hitting the the media... The same happend with the 'travelator story' at the airport, there were suddenly more stories of travelators and escalators causing issues.... ... Then, the media gets tired of the drum beating and finds something else to focus on... and such similar topics go cold. Flavour of the week, perhaps even the month is motorcycle-taxi-riders attacking customers... I suspect such issues are a lot more frequent than we read of, until the media suddenly consider such news may draw our attention. 1
Popular Post JimTripper Posted 14 hours ago Popular Post Posted 14 hours ago (edited) 41 minutes ago, BangkokReady said: It's amazing how many professional drivers/riders seem to not use satnav. They don't know how to read it. I went over this with a grab/bolt driver in Bangkok. They don't have the spatial ability to follow a map route. Little dot is there and route mapped out but they can't grasp the concept. Sounds crazy, I know... Try thinking how you would approach it being an adult with only elementary school training. Not years of looking at facts and numbers and books. It would just look like a hodgepodge or you would not have the ability to interpret how it moved and respond in kind. Or, you would lack the patience and mental focus to follow what it was telling you. Edited 14 hours ago by JimTripper 2 4
NoDisplayName Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 37 minutes ago, BangkokReady said: Indeed. He could have been telling the truth and has a younger brother who is a police officer, it simply didn't change anything. That's not what I get from the wording. Implies that of course a cop's relative would be let off. The fact that he was fined is therefore proof that he was lying.
BangkokReady Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 11 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said: That's not what I get from the wording. Implies that of course a cop's relative would be let off. The fact that he was fined is therefore proof that he was lying. Indeed, but that isn't necessarily the case. He may have not been able to get off, even though his brother was a cop. Him not getting off does not prove that he lied about having a brother who is a police officer.
BangkokReady Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 9 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said: I think its the 'contagion effect'... Whereby once attention is drawn to a specific occurrence, other similar occurrences draw further attention.. For example: there has not been reports of a 'dog' attack recently - but, once one big story hits the headlines, there are suddenly more stories about other dog attacks hitting the the media... The same happend with the 'travelator story' at the airport, there were suddenly more stories of travelators and escalators causing issues.... ... Then, the media gets tired of the drum beating and finds something else to focus on... and such similar topics go cold. Flavour of the week, perhaps even the month is motorcycle-taxi-riders attacking customers... I suspect such issues are a lot more frequent than we read of, until the media suddenly consider such news may draw our attention. Possibly, but I meant over a longer period of time. Like a change in how people are behaving. Thai people have always been fairly well known for not wanting to make a fuss or escalate things (less something bad happens to them), but is seems like this is changing.
Oliver Holzerfilled Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago "Apidate was fined 1,000 baht and ordered to pay 20,000 baht in compensation to Natchacha." And I believe in the tooth fairy I'm expecting to find 20k under my pillow when I wake up tomorrow. 2
richard_smith237 Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 7 minutes ago, BangkokReady said: Possibly, but I meant over a longer period of time. Like a change in how people are behaving. Thai people have always been fairly well known for not wanting to make a fuss or escalate things (less something bad happens to them), but is seems like this is changing. Perhaps... maybe its 'modernisation'... But I still think our awareness is related to the media - particularly social media. There has been this myth that Thai's are unflappable, avoid conflict, don't get angry, don't use bad language etc... But this is clearly untrue - Thai folk are just like the rest of us... Perhaps in aggregate the average Thai is less confrontational than the average Westerner - but there are also pro's and cons to that double edged sword, what makes Thailand attractive for the 'easy going nature' of it populace also is the cause of many frustrations as issues are not addressed... this also seems to lead towards a 'sub-dermal frustration' and once the skin is pierced things can boil over quickly... I've been here well over 20 years and I have seen the amazing positives and outrageous negatives of society here. The one facet of society that has changed more than any other is the internet, or more specifically, social media and how now anything can reach millions within minutes. Thus: when something happens, we can all read of it quickly... We are ever increasingly alert to the issues that surround us and while media sources such as this forum are somewhat of a 'western-centric bubble with tit-bits of Thai-centric news thrown in'... thats enough to penetrate the rose tinted ignorance we may otherwise walk around in... But... Perhaps... as Thailand evolves, as more and more Westerners move here we become more and more normalised.... I think we've been normalised here for decades already, in major area's such as Bangkok at least - treated with the same standard level of indifference everyone else treats everyone else with... there are no frills, no wonder.. just normalcy.... I'm quite happy with that and I don't see that its changed over a couple of decades... ... what has changed is the access to widespread media, where as before we'd have to read the Thai newspapers to gauge the true temperature of the nation we can now see that everywhere around us. Thailand is still great place to live - just like anywhere, there are many negatives, there are many positives - for me living here is a net positive... I don't see any significant changes over 20 years... ... well, perhaps another point, the financial gap between the average Westerner and average Thai seems to have closed... and with it that may bring more frustration to some foreigners and that could impact their behavior...
Liverpool Lou Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 16 minutes ago, Oliver Holzerfilled said: Apidate was fined 1,000 baht and ordered to pay 20,000 baht in compensation to Natchacha." And I believe in the tooth fairy I'm expecting to find 20k under my pillow when I wake up tomorrow. What makes you think that the report about the fine and the compensation was untrue?
richard_smith237 Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 23 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said: 41 minutes ago, Oliver Holzerfilled said: Apidate was fined 1,000 baht and ordered to pay 20,000 baht in compensation to Natchacha." And I believe in the tooth fairy I'm expecting to find 20k under my pillow when I wake up tomorrow. What makes you think that the report about the fine and the compensation was untrue? Way too literal LL ... ... the 'tooth-fairy' comment referred to the questionable level of realism surrounding the likelihood that the victim will ever receive the 20,000 baht compensation at all... 1
Aussie999 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 8 hours ago, BangkokReady said: It's amazing how many professional drivers/riders seem to not use satnav. I guess, as in this case, it doesn't help if the soi is known to have 2 names... that in itself needs to be sorted...
pattayasan Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 37 minutes ago, Aussie999 said: I guess, as in this case, it doesn't help if the soi is known to have 2 names... that in itself needs to be sorted... That would be almost every soi in Thailand.
BritManToo Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago (edited) 11 hours ago, snoop1130 said: The rider later called her, expressing anger as he was unable to locate her home. Natchacha provided further directions until he arrived. However, he remained angry and complained about the confusing location. The only woman in Thailand with no smartphone on which to 'share' her GPS location or drop a pin. Does anyone in the world still give 'directions'? Edited 6 hours ago by BritManToo
BritManToo Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 8 hours ago, richard_smith237 said: Perhaps in aggregate the average Thai is less confrontational than the average Westerner They are, until they're not and then watch out.
Aussie999 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 2 hours ago, pattayasan said: That would be almost every soi in Thailand. after many years, in Thailand, sorry I do not agree, where are you living, can you name a few.
pattayasan Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 24 minutes ago, Aussie999 said: after many years, in Thailand, sorry I do not agree, where are you living, can you name a few. Every soi in Pattaya.
john donson Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago app based? isn't there the correct GPS address? I never order food, I cook myself or actually go to a place to eat...
madone Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago (edited) 11 hours ago, BangkokReady said: It's amazing how many professional drivers/riders seem to not use satnav. its not that. hey use a satnav, they just cant read a map. My house is in a very small sub soi, tucked off a well-known Bangkok soi. It is a group of three houses surrounded by condos. It is clearly marked on the map, but not glaringly obvious from the street. I have also put detailed instructions on where to find it in every delivery service app I use. The instructions are both English and Thai. I can see those instructions under the address on their screens and order sheets when they arrive. They either can't or don't read the map or instructions. For years now they have been getting hopelessly lost. The first question I ask when they call is where are you? they inevitably answer -- "lobby" when I say "I don't have a lobby, I live in a house," the fun begins. Edited 3 hours ago by madone
madone Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 47 minutes ago, Aussie999 said: after many years, in Thailand, sorry I do not agree, where are you living, can you name a few. Sukhumvit soi 4 == soi nana tai sukhumvit soi 3 -- soi nana nua sukhumvit 11 soi chaiyot Sukhumvit 55 -- soi thionglor Sukhumvit 63 -- soi Ekkamai Sukhumvit 77 -- soi onnut Sukhumvit 71 -- prakanong, klong tan, soi Pridi (yes thats 4 names) this is a few off the top of my head. if you look at the street signs MANY sois have alternate names
Aussie999 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, pattayasan said: Every soi in Pattaya. Edited 2 hours ago by Aussie999
pattayasan Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 3 minutes ago, Aussie999 said: send a few examples..... photos Look at any soi street sign in Pattaya. They carry a number and the "parent" street and a name of the soi, precisely as indicated in the story. Edited 2 hours ago by pattayasan
Aussie999 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, madone said: Sukhumvit soi 4 == soi nana tai sukhumvit soi 3 -- soi nana nua sukhumvit 11 soi chaiyot Sukhumvit 55 -- soi thionglor Sukhumvit 63 -- soi Ekkamai Sukhumvit 77 -- soi onnut Sukhumvit 71 -- prakanong, klong tan, soi Pridi (yes thats 4 names) this is a few off the top of my head. if you look at the street signs MANY sois have alternate names as far as I can recall Sukhumvit means district, so is not a soi name.. I'm sure someone will correct me 1
Tropicalevo Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago I feel a tad sorry for delivery drivers and taxis etc trying to follow Google maps or whatever. Here on Samui - the maps are inaccurate with some sois not being on the map and some in the wrong place. I live on an unnamed sub soi. It is in fact two roads from the main soi, which heads in three different direction with the ends of those roads being 1.5 kilometers apart. Then we have the house numbering system. I built three houses. Numbered 8/23, 8/52 and 8/11. They are in a row on the same plot of land. The house number tells you when it was built - not where it is. 23rd house built, 52nd house built, 11th house built. My next door neighbour is 8/159! Then we have 'sponsored' street names. Named after the hotel that sponsors the sign. Just because it is there on the internet, does not mean that it is accurate or true.
hotchilli Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 16 hours ago, snoop1130 said: The rider then boasted that he dared to assault her and was unafraid of legal consequences, claiming his younger brother was a police officer. He then sped away from the scene but Natchacha managed to photograph his motorcycle’s registration plate. Idiot... how do you feel now 20,000 baht lighter?
lordgrinz Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 8 minutes ago, hotchilli said: Idiot... how do you feel now 20,000 baht lighter? That's assuming he'll ever pay it, I highly doubt it.
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