Thailand vs Panama. Decisions Decisions!

[marin]

Never bobby, please try and find someone else to play with. Going out for my daily jog. 

[BarBoy]

Just now, marin said:

Never bobby, please try and find someone else to play with. Going out for my daily jog. 

...break a leg!

 

Colin.

[scubascuba3]

I passed through Panama and can't remember it much except the Panama Canal, so no doesn't compare with Thailand

[RSD1]

bob, just stick to Soi 6/1. No need to travel all the way beyond South America for your bologna pony fix. Thailand still has some of the best ladyboys money can buy, hands down. If it ain't broke, don't fix it, right mate?

[BarBoy]

10 minutes ago, RSD1 said:

If it ain't broke, don't fix it, right mate?

mate?

I'm not your mate.

I don't even know you.

[spidermike007]

2 hours ago, G_Money said:

First of all the election has nothing to do with my post.  You’re deflecting and using that as an excuse. 
 

“What a completely ridiculous, unnecessary, and unhelpful reply. Perhaps you can try harder next time. “

 

Why is that?  I was not being condescending.

 

If you can’t attract Thai men there must be a reason.  Could be appearance, grooming habits, not enough baht to spend

 

No difference whether man or woman.  While what I stated are possible the old cliche “Money number One” in Thailand is still very accurate.

 

You most likely already know the answer to your concerns.

 

 

Okay so from a standpoint of pure objectivity assuming you're not fluent in Thai, how many close male friends do you have who are Thais? 

[wwest5829]

8 hours ago, BarBoy said:

hi, I have had an offer from an old pal of mine to relocate to Panama, all expenses paid, free bed and board and a senorita to boot. however I have never been there before and I am quite content with my life here in Thailand. Has anyone been to Panama before? He tells me the lifestyle over there is amazing, great weather, girls are awesome and there is always something going on. Visas are excruciatingly easy to obtain and the food is quite good too. Just looking for a bit of advice before I make my final decision. Thanks.

Have not been. One of the 5 countries I was considering for retirement. Thailand was the pick but … the Kingdom of Thailand chooses to tax the required amount I bring in annually to meet immigration and Panama is on the list as a possible move. Been here 13 years as a retired professional, no issues for Thailand and a steady scourge of revenue … up to you Thailand.

[save the frogs]

9 hours ago, BarBoy said:

free bed and board and a senorita to boot.

yeah, he's throwing in a woman as part of the deal. LOL. 

 

 

[Wrwest]

8 hours ago, Woke to Sounds of Horking said:

To the OP, International Living raves about Panama year in, year out.  That said - never been. Also prudent to take what IL says with a big grain of salt. For example, they rave about Chiang Mai but never once mention the terrible air pollution.

 

 

 

Nov. 22, 2014 Forbes had an article about retiring to Panama.

[jaywalker2]

3 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

What a completely ridiculous, unnecessary, and unhelpful reply. Perhaps you can try harder next time. 

 

In the past two years since this election cycle does it feel like this forum is getting dumbed down with more venom, or is it just my perception? 

The zeitgeist is certainly changing. Where it's headed is anybody guess

[G_Money]

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

Okay so from a standpoint of pure objectivity assuming you're not fluent in Thai, how many close male friends do you have who are Thais? 

 None, as I have no desire to have close Thai male friends.

 

My choice.

 

I’m sure the feeling is mutual on their side of the fence.

 

 

Edited Saturday at 12:12 PM by G_Money

[MalcolmB]

6 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

It is cultural it's not me. And it's my belief that in addition to the language barrier it's also due to a stunning lack of curiosity about us, and about the outside world. 

So you are telling me the language barrier is what is holding you back?

Have you considered learning the language or is that beneath you and you feel all Thais should learn English so they can be friends with you?

 

How many friends to you make in the USA were foreigners who refused to speak English?  You wouldn’t bother, so why would Thais be bothered with you? 
 

It shows a stunning lack of curiosity of the world you are living in.

[MalcolmB]

2 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Okay so from a standpoint of pure objectivity assuming you're not fluent in Thai, how many close male friends do you have who are Thais? 

How do you expect to make friends if you can not speak with them?

[RSD1]

3 hours ago, save the frogs said:

yeah, he's throwing in a woman as part of the deal. LOL. 

This point basically sums up why this is just another bob smith troll windup topic. Nobody gifts you a woman for your pleasure as a prize if you go to visit them in another country. 
 

Meanwhile, others have now hijacked this topic to talk about the difficulties in making friends with Thai men. But this is off-topic and bob smith already created a topic about it in 2022 that went on for 11 pages and so did someone else again in 2023:

 

 

Edited Saturday at 02:09 PM by RSD1

[ericthai]

9 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

I have a lot of friends and I've had a lot of friends all over the world in my travels, and when I've lived elsewhere overseas. That has not been the case in Thailand. Other than men who have had the ability to meet Thai men at an University or professional setting overseas, or and unusual situation like that, I know very few foreign men here who have good Thai male friends.

 

It is cultural it's not me. And it's my belief that in addition to the language barrier it's also due to a stunning lack of curiosity about us, and about the outside world. 

I have several good Thai friends that are male.  Two of them did live in then USA, but the others I've met over the years. 

I'm still involved in the business world and that's how I met most of my Thai friends, so that might be the difference.

[JimTripper]

10 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

I have a lot of friends and I've had a lot of friends all over the world in my travels, and when I've lived elsewhere overseas. That has not been the case in Thailand. Other than men who have had the ability to meet Thai men at an University or professional setting overseas, or and unusual situation like that, I know very few foreign men here who have good Thai male friends.

 

It is cultural it's not me. And it's my belief that in addition to the language barrier it's also due to a stunning lack of curiosity about us, and about the outside world. 

Part of it may be not liking foreigners in general, not just lack of curiosity. Is definately not just you. Odd isn't it? It's not something that can be overcome in my opinion, after living here many years.

 

Bob and I were on the same page in this regard as well. Many theories were brought up, including penis size, but I don't think anybody really knows. On the surface it seems to be disinterest, but there is a spitefullness as well and avoidance you don't find with just non-interest.

 

Part of it may be fear of embarrassment of not speaking english or understanding you. Even the noodle soup store guy I eat at regularly acts weird when I ask a question and I eat there several times a week. It's kind of a blunt curt manner like he is in a rush or afraid to interact with me. Other times he is overly attentive if I don't say anything. Weird.

 

Very different then Mexican guys who are easy to meet and interact with even with the language barrier.

Edited Saturday at 05:52 PM by JimTripper

[john donson]

so you even got offered a free w.h.o.r.e or did I misread that?

[spidermike007]

15 hours ago, G_Money said:

 None, as I have no desire to have close Thai male friends.

 

My choice.

 

I’m sure the feeling is mutual on their side of the fence.

 

 

That's not the case with me, I happen to like the Thai people and I would love to have some close Thai male friends, but it's nearly impossible.

 

I'm not sure why you devoted so much effort to this argument, when it turns out you've never made an effort so you have no knowledge of this. You're speaking from standpoint of pure speculation which is the opposite of knowledge, experience and wisdom. 

[MalcolmB]

10 hours ago, JimTripper said:

Many theories were brought up, including penis size,

Ok, that is why I have so many Thai male friends.
I am black from the waist down. 
 

[G_Money]

2 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

That's not the case with me, I happen to like the Thai people and I would love to have some close Thai male friends, but it's nearly impossible.

 

I'm not sure why you devoted so much effort to this argument, when it turns out you've never made an effort so you have no knowledge of this. You're speaking from standpoint of pure speculation which is the opposite of knowledge, experience and wisdom. 

ROLMAO!

 

1.  I stand 100% by my post you responded to.

 

2.  “So much effort “. Not at all.  I enjoy responding to posts and the banter.

 

3.  “You’ve never made an effort “.  True.  I’m not a Queer so I have no desire for close relationships with Thai men.

 

4.  “Speculation, Knowledge, Experiences and Wisdom “.  Read number 3 over and over again until it’s clear.

 

5.  “Love to have some close Thai male friends but it’s nearly impossible “. Good for you.  Not everyone shares the same desire as you.   Absolutely nothing to do with Knowledge, Experience, Wisdom or whatever.

Have you considered why it’s nearly impossible?  Have you considered the reason is that Thai males have no desire to be friends with you?  
 

Are you seeking men in your age group?  Are you seeking men that resemble you physically?

 

If not that could be your problem.  What do YOU think the problem is?

[G_Money]

20 hours ago, BarBoy said:

It is almost impossible for a farang to make any meaningful friendship with a Thai male. I am sure there are exceptions to the rule but on average I have seldom seen a real friendship as they are just not interested in it.

Appears @spidermike007 isn’t the only person having trouble meeting Thai men.

[JimTripper]

53 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

That's not the case with me, I happen to like the Thai people and I would love to have some close Thai male friends, but it's nearly impossible.

What response do you get when you initiate?

The only potential connections I have encountered center around similar music interests. For example, wearing a band t-shirt that resonated with a particular music sub culture. Somehow establishing a common connection beforehand. Even that was just chat though, not really a "friendship". There does not seem to be enough in common to relate to other guys easily just off the cuff.

Edited 23 hours ago by JimTripper

[RSD1]

So everyone here who is moaning about the challenges of making Thai male friends has had these problems in Panama?

[jaywalker2]

On 11/23/2024 at 9:04 AM, BarBoy said:

hi, I have had an offer from an old pal of mine to relocate to Panama, all expenses paid, free bed and board and a senorita to boot. however I have never been there before and I am quite content with my life here in Thailand. Has anyone been to Panama before? He tells me the lifestyle over there is amazing, great weather, girls are awesome and there is always something going on. Visas are excruciatingly easy to obtain and the food is quite good too. Just looking for a bit of advice before I make my final decision. Thanks.

So basically you would be shacking up with a human sex trafficker. Is that right?

[RSD1]

9 minutes ago, jaywalker2 said:

So basically you would be shacking up with a human sex trafficker. Is that right?

 

He wont be shacking up with anyone in Panama. This whole topic is just a windup.

[Banana7]

For the OP, I recommend you go for a reconnaissance trip for a month or 2, to see if you like it. We can speculate if it is better, but it comes down to what you want  and your most important critical success factors for a permanent move.  Try it, it doesn't have to be a one way ticket. If you don't completely trust your friend, do some research on youtube.

 

I've been to Panama numerous times and considered retiring there. Places and environments change over time but I can say it was a pleasant experience. For me, I just like the abundance of slim build friendly Thai ladies better. The chicas tend to get heavier as they age. Also, you can pop up to Costa Rica or down to Columbia for some variety. Costa Rica is getting expensive!

 

 

 

Edited 20 hours ago by Banana7

[GinBoy2]

So regardless of whether or not this is a bob_smith thing, which I also suspect it is. Folks have a fairly consistent style of writing.

 

Anyhow one of the pluses of working for an airline is I travel for free.

 

Just over a year ago we went to Panama City for a few days just because I could and I'd never been there before.

 

I'm a native Spanish speaker so language wasn't a problem. Quite liked the place, food is great, climate OK, it was all pretty cheap, but obviously I don't know about living costs as a resident.

 

But on balance I'd chose somewhere in Mexico. I have family in Guadalajara a city I love or one of the tourist cities before Panama 

Edited 19 hours ago by GinBoy2

[Prubangboy]

6 hours ago, GinBoy2 said:

 

 

But on balance I'd chose somewhere in Mexico.

Agreed. Took a peek, Mex City was more cosmopolitan and intellectual. Maybe 20% more than P-city.

 

Forget the name, but I went to expat place in the mountains. Very tiny, and not cheap.

[bubblegum]

2 many Americans

[Yagoda]

On 11/23/2024 at 9:04 AM, BarBoy said:

hi, I have had an offer from an old pal of mine to relocate to Panama, all expenses paid, free bed and board and a senorita to boot. however I have never been there before and I am quite content with my life here in Thailand. Has anyone been to Panama before? He tells me the lifestyle over there is amazing, great weather, girls are awesome and there is always something going on. Visas are excruciatingly easy to obtain and the food is quite good too. Just looking for a bit of advice before I make my final decision. Thanks.

Panama is a far more violent place than Thailand. Nothing inspires a Panamanian beat down more than a wise ass gringo. Have fun!