1 minute ago, RSD1 said:

You mean around a 6% HIV positive rate from overall testing?

 

Right, PrEP people will all remain HIV negative, regardless of sexual behavior, as long as they maintain consistent use of the medication. 

Yes to both, the Red Cross website shows monthly testing stats

7 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Will I need a microscope for the photos?

Only if you want to count the pubes on my ball sack that weren’t chopped off by my manscaper hair clipper.  

Just now, scubascuba3 said:

Yes to both, the Red Cross website shows monthly testing stats

Interesting. Didn’t realize they make their research data public. That’s very useful.

2 minutes ago, RSD1 said:

Whatever. It’s a risk. Discount the risk to whatever degree you want to if it makes you feel better. Even a 5% risk is still a risk. But assuming that wearing a condom makes herpes transmission risk free is still Darwinism. 
 

https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/stds-hiv-safer-sex/herpes

 

From the above link:

 

Herpes is easily spread from skin-to-skin contact with someone who has the virus. You can get it when your genitals and/or mouth touch their genitals and/or mouth — usually during oral, anal, and vaginal sex.

Herpes can be passed even if the penis or tongue doesn’t go all the way in the vagina, anus, or mouth. You don’t have to cum to spread herpes. All it takes is some quick skin-to-skin touching. You can also get herpes from kissing someone who has oral herpes.

The skin on your genitals, mouth, and eyes can be infected easily. Other areas of skin may get infected if there’s a way for the herpes virus to get in, like through a cut, burn, rash, or other sores. You don’t have to have sex to get herpes. Sometimes herpes can be passed in non-sexual ways, like if a parent with a cold sore gives you a peck on the lips. Most people with oral herpes got it when they were kids.  A mother can pass genital herpes to a baby during vaginal childbirth, but that’s pretty rare.

You can spread herpes to other parts of your body if you touch a herpes sore and then touch your mouth, genitals, or eyes without washing your hands first. You can also pass herpes to someone else this way.

Herpes is most contagious when sores are open and wet, because fluid from herpes blisters easily spreads the virus. But herpes can also “shed” and get passed to others when there are no sores and your skin looks totally normal.

Most people get herpes from someone who doesn’t have any sores. It may live in your body for years without causing any symptoms, so it’s really hard to know for sure when and how you got it. That’s why so many people have herpes — it’s a pretty sneaky infection.

 

Agreed. But protection can come in many forms. Not just condoms. 

So I've just been lucky then, being herpes-free? I don't think so.

 

Protection in the form of antibiotics and antivirals assumes the target cannot adapt. IIRC there is evidence of anti-biotic resistant strains of syphilis and gonorrhea in Laos and Cambodia.

 

Apart from which, said medications screw up gut flora and the immune system.

2 minutes ago, RSD1 said:

Interesting. Didn’t realize they make their research data public. That’s very useful.

Looks like it's reduced for the last period, 2.7%

 

https://th.trcarc.org/

7 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   I didn't wake up this morning wondering whether Malcolm wears a condom when he's having sex with prostitutes .

   He asked me that question this morning and I replied to that question 

And you posted at least another seven times on the same subject about it after you replied to the question. So you can lie to yourself about your level of obsession with this topic, but your posts don’t lie. 

2 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Looks like it's reduced for the last period, 2.7%

 

https://th.trcarc.org/

Nice to see infection rates are seemingly declining. But I also assume it’s an up-and-down thing. I also think a lot of the sex workers just get tested by small neighborhood clinics, if at all. So the majority of the people going to the Red Cross to get tested could just be from the general population. Quite a few tourists too I think. 

43 minutes ago, RSD1 said:

Thai population is even HIV positive. That’s quite low.

 

I would ask for proof of that. I'm guessing it's 3.5% general population and 5-7% in the risk group of sexworkers (punters)

 

You're also looking at this incorrectly. It's not about 1% of the total population. Rather, prostitution is quite a high risk group for HIV one might think.

 

I don't think those drugs are widely studied. Seems pretty heavy duty to live on (like a HIV+ person). Can't be good for the body. O could see this for someone going thru an epic middle age crisis, but living on medicine for the sake of random sex seems both shallow and dangerous.

5 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

So I've just been lucky then, being herpes-free? I don't think so.

You haven’t had many partners in your life. Probably plays a big role. 

 

6 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

IIRC there is evidence of anti-biotic resistant strains of syphilis and gonorrhea in Laos and Cambodia.

I looked into that a while ago. The incidence is very low. And when there are drug resistant strains, it doesn’t mean that the person never gets rid of the infection. It just means that it takes longer and more drugs to knock it out.
 

The number of people out there who are walking around with a bacterial STI that they haven’t been able to treat and kill with use of antibiotics (over a long enough period of treatment) is probably a small fraction of one percent, or less. 
 

 

4 minutes ago, Albo said:

 

I would ask for proof of that. I'm guessing it's 3.5% general population and 5-7% in the risk group of sexworkers (punters)

 

You're also looking at this incorrectly. It's not about 1% of the total population. Rather, prostitution is quite a high risk group for HIV one might think.

 

I don't think those drugs are widely studied. Seems pretty heavy duty to live on (like a HIV+ person). Can't be good for the body. O could see this for someone going thru an epic middle age crisis, but living on medicine for the sake of random sex seems both shallow and dangerous.

Sorry, I’m not gonna bother formulating a reply to this. Everything that you’ve written above is conjecture and backed up by nothing. I’m not saying you’re wrong, but until I see some factual basis for what you’ve written then I see no point in discussing any of it. But you can go on making your own assumptions based on whatever anecdotal reasoning you feel comfortable with. 

1 hour ago, RSD1 said:

The notion of unprotected anal sex while using PrEP still concerns me, but I guess that’s what it is designed for. 

 

I'll tell you upfront I have no idea, but I don't think these drugs were "designed" to mitigate HIV. I'm guessing scientists stumbled on new classes of antibiotics that appear to hold HIV at bay. The difference is HIV is not 'cured' and science doesn't have it dialed in. Luck. Fortunate for those with HIV. These medicines should not just be taken like a handful of amoxicillin.

Just now, Albo said:

 

I'll tell you upfront I have no idea, but I don't think these drugs were "designed" to mitigate HIV. I'm guessing scientists stumbled on new classes of antibiotics that appear to hold HIV at bay. Fortunate for those with HIV. These medicines should not just be taken like a handful of amoxicillin.

Antiretroviral drugs are not antibiotics. These days, the standard treatment regimen for managing HIV involves a three-drug cocktail of antiretroviral medications, often combined into a single pill. This treatment is highly effective at reducing the viral load of someone living with HIV to undetectable levels.

 

For prevention, the drug regimen used for PrEP (Pre-Exposure Prophylaxis) also consists of a single pill, but it includes only two of the three antiretroviral drugs typically used to treat an existing HIV infection.

 

While effective, these drugs can strain the liver and kidneys, and some may reduce bone density or negatively impact lipid profiles. As a result, individuals taking antiretroviral medications are closely monitored with regular kidney and liver function tests to detect potential side effects. However, most people tolerate these drugs well without significant issues.

 

In comparison, taking amoxicillin regularly could be even more harmful and dangerous than antiretroviral drugs.

 

 

The results of this poll come as no surprise these days.

29 minutes ago, RSD1 said:

And you posted at least another seven times on the same subject about it after you replied to the question. So you can lie to yourself about your level of obsession with this topic, but your posts don’t lie. 

 

   Honestly , I really do not want to know whether other people use condoms or not .

   I have never asked that question to anyone ever in my whole life as I dont want to know .

I was asked the question, I didn't ask the question . 

42 minutes ago, Bobthegimp said:

 

Not another believer in the "regular testing" story told by bar owners, are you?  

 

   I am not , no .

1 hour ago, Albo said:

 

The women in the streets are there bc they've overcome their shyness enough pressed on by desperate need for money.

 

 

   Many of those girls are underaged as well and they cannot work in bars 

37 minutes ago, RSD1 said:

Nice to see infection rates are seemingly declining. But I also assume it’s an up-and-down thing. I also think a lot of the sex workers just get tested by small neighborhood clinics, if at all. So the majority of the people going to the Red Cross to get tested could just be from the general population. Quite a few tourists too I think. 

Majority of people going to the Red Cross seem to be gay men, girls are mostly clueless about PrEP

2 hours ago, Lacessit said:

IMO it's insane to have sex without a condom with someone you don't know.

 

Between age 15 -49 yo, over 50% of the world's population have oral herpes.

 

In the same age bracket, 13% have genital herpes.

 

Herpes is treatable for symptoms. It is incurable.

 

Once one has acquired herpes, they have it for life.

 

Do you feel lucky?

Did you get your current girlfriend tested before you had unprotected sex?

 

Or did you just feel lucky?

2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Many of those girls are underaged as well and they cannot work in bars 

Wrong, find a video of the daily YouTube videos showing anyone looking underage, stop making things up

1 hour ago, transam said:

I am looking forward to the day when you post here that you actually have found a girlfriend.......

Instead of all your imaginary sexual daydreaming threads...........

Do you know any single mothers from Issan?

My dream is to live up there taking care of other men’s kids. 

Just now, MalcolmB said:

Do you know any single mothers from Issan?

My dream is to live up there taking care of other men’s kids. 

Well no, I don't, but reading here, it seems you don't know any women..........

1 hour ago, RSD1 said:

Or boyfriend. Leave him with all his options open. Increases the chance for success. 

What are you up to later tonight?
Do you want to come around to my place and watch Netflix?

2 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Majority of people going to the Red Cross seem to be gay men, girls are mostly clueless about PrEP

Yes, I've been there. It's probably around 70% men and I would say around 2/3 to 3/4 of them do look gay. Also a fair number of transsexuals go there. A number of the staff are also gay and transsexual. 
 

In any event, people are going there for various types of testing and treatments. According to the main page of their website, they probably only have a few thousand people on PrEP in total I'm guessing. Their data shows that around 7000 people have come in so far this year in total for PrEP. But since PrEP users probably go in there 3 to 4 times per year to get blood work and pick up medicine (and get counted each time), then they may only have around 2000 people net on PrEP. That's an extremely low number compared to the number of people who are at risk of getting HIV.

 

Perhaps there are a lot of people that do know about the benefits of PrEP but don't go take the drugs for various reasons. Cost, fear, laziness, aversion to medicine, out of sight out of mind, can't be arsed, head in the sand mentality, i'll be born again anyway, etc.

3 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

What are you up to later tonight?
Do you want to come around to my place and watch Netflix?

That's more like it, but use the PM function, you may get better results...........😘

5 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

What are you up to later tonight?
Do you want to come around to my place and watch Netflix?

Can do. But I'm already committed to head over to Nana to bump uglies with a pair of slappers at around 10. Can you wait until I've already pushed a nut out until I cum by?

1 hour ago, RSD1 said:

So you’re boasting about not talking about it or doing it? Thoughts and prayers. 

 

My silence speaks volumes.

27 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Honestly , I really do not want to know whether other people use condoms or not .

   I have never asked that question to anyone ever in my whole life as I dont want to know .

I was asked the question, I didn't ask the question . 

And, what did you learn from this new and tremendously enlightening life experience?

 

Condoms are great though, especially the perforated ones. 👍🏼

Just now, hotandsticky said:

 

My silence speaks volumes.

Did you just say something?

25 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

Did you get your current girlfriend tested before you had unprotected sex?

They probably don't have sex. Too dangerous. Too many diseases out there. Lots of strains of untreatable STIs. But at least they don't have to worry about herpes because condoms always prevent that. 

3 minutes ago, RSD1 said:

And, what did you learn from this new and tremendously enlightening life experience?

 

Condoms are great though, especially the perforated ones. 👍🏼

 

   I feel very pleased that I do not use prostitutes .

So pleased that I don't have to pay them money, dodge diseases , get condoms or not, visit hospitals for check ups , slurp on other guys sperm as you are down there licking .

   Very pleased that I have no interest in prostitution