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Giorgia Meloni Sparks Controversy with Remarks on Immigration and Sexual Violence in Italy


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57 minutes ago, Social Media said:

Meloni's remarks, however, have drawn sharp criticism. Italian Education Minister Giuseppe Valditara recently faced backlash for making a similar claim, suggesting that illegal immigration was linked to rising incidents of sexual violence. Valditara’s statements provoked outrage, with opposition figures accusing him of perpetuating falsehoods.

That's what the woke do. Best ignored. Responding to the loonies only encourages them to keep ranting.

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I had hopes that Meloni would actually do what she said before the election. Unfortunately she turned out to be another empty paper bag politician that promises the world to get elected and then abandons everything they promised once in the big chair.

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3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

That's what the woke do. Best ignored. Responding to the loonies only encourages them to keep ranting.

 

Talking about ranting, it's funny how some people see wokeism everywhere, even where there is very little of it. 

 

In Italy deeply rooted Catholic culture predates wokeism by a couple of thousand years at least, and respect for the Catholic church's dictates is still dominant, especially among more conservative circles. Pope Francis has called anti-migrant measures "grave sins". He has also said that it is a "grave sin" to not offer aid to migrant vessels. He doubled down by blaming wealthy countries for the increase in immigration numbers, saying they are responsible because of their economic strength and energy policies. No mention of the corruption, nepotism, violation of fundamental human rights, excessive demographic expansion, illiteracy which plague the countries from which emigrants are running away.

 

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Politicians world wide are ignoring the fact that hoads of illegals are committing sexual and other crimes. 

Politicians and others are demonised by main stream media for stating the truth in public. 

In the UK  young Muslim immigrant  males are frequent offenders. 

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22 minutes ago, jippytum said:

Politicians world wide are ignoring the fact that hoads of illegals are committing sexual and other crimes. 

Politicians and others are demonised by main stream media for stating the truth in public. 

In the UK  young Muslim immigrant  males are frequent offenders. 

 

19 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

She's right of course. Well done for speaking up. 

 

You only have to look at the treatment of women in the cultures they come from. They are not suddenly going to adopt new belief systems after a week in a hostel in Milan. 

No facts. Your opinions should be easy to prove.

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3 hours ago, stevenl said:

Should be easy to determine whether the claims are true or not.

It's not true what she said. There is no evidence, not in any EU country.

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The reality is a bit more complex..

 

"According to Istat, Italy's national statistics agency, the country saw 334 murders in 2023, up 3.7% from the year before.

Of the victims, 117 were women and 217 were men, and it's the male victims who account for the overall increase — a 10.7% rise since 2022, compared to a 7.1% decrease in female victims.

Around 94.3% of the Italian women killed that year were victims of fellow Italians, according to the agency, and 43.8% of foreign women killed in Italy were victims of someone of the same nationality.

The number of women killed by a partner or ex-partner stood at 63."

 

https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2024/11/25/fact-check-is-illegal-immigration-to-blame-for-rising-sexual-violence-in-italy

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9 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I had hopes that Meloni would actually do what she said before the election. Unfortunately she turned out to be another empty paper bag politician that promises the world to get elected and then abandons everything they promised once in the big chair.

 

Meloni heads a coalition government. It's unlikely that she has free rein to implement all the policies she wants to.

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Perhaps Trump will insist that some folk at the soon to be revamped Dept of Justice, seek data and publish what is becoming anecdotally apparent from numerous media reports in Europe and I expect replicated to some degree in the USA.

What do you expect of young men brainwashed by some clerics about sexuality, and the worth of women in society. It happens all over the world. However genital mutilation, forced marriages, female subjugation is notably more apparent in some Islamic societies e.g. Afghanistan, Pakistan, Syria, as well as predominantly Hindu, India. I say some Islamic societies, as in my model Islamic countries of Indonesia and Bangladesh, women are treated with respect and have held high office positions for decades. So this is not an Islam beat up per se, but the issue should not be ignored.

Here's a report from the UK on forced marriages... https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/forced-marriage-unit-statistics-2022/forced-marriage-unit-statistics-2022

I recognise sexual violence is committed by all races, but suggest it is higher in some ethnic/religious groups than others.

 

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10 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I had hopes that Meloni would actually do what she said before the election. Unfortunately she turned out to be another empty paper bag politician that promises the world to get elected and then abandons everything they promised once in the big chair.

 

Well, it seems that she is doing what she said

 

https://europeanconservative.com/articles/news/italy-illegal-migration-drops-62-as-melonis-policies-take-effect/

 

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Starmer says that Italy has made remarkable progress on dealing with irregular migration in the Mediterranean.

Regular arrivals are down 60%, he says, adding that he is pleased to see that cooperation between Italy and the UK is deepening on this front, including with intelligence and tactics being shared.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cvgddpq44qjt

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