I was absolutely mortified at what I witnessed yesterday.

[MalcolmB]

17 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Heres a clue - the best insult you could give me would be to call me MalcolmB.... 

I am not into insulting people.

You will find that a weird concept.

Not my thing.

[MalcolmB]

16 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Such absurdly idiotic comment that it fits perfectly with your usual level of reasoning.

So no then. 
I feel sorry for your in-laws. 
I can only imagine some of the things they must have been through with you over the years.

[Gecko123]

I don't think it is fair to say that Thai parents are any less concerned about child welfare than parents in the West. And while more pressing financial priorities may explain a lot of this, what I chalk it up to is that Thais often do a very superficial cost benefit analysis in general when it comes to safety, and that there is something about the ruminating nature of risk analysis that cuts against the grain of Thai culture and the Thai mindset.

[NanLaew]

3 hours ago, BarBoy said:

Yesterday, on the way home from the pub (in a taxi), I witnessed a crash between a motorbike and a car. Traffic was backed up for a few minutes and when It was my turn to pass I saw the driver of the bike pick up a baby girl that had been with him on his scooter when it crashed - with no bleeding helmet! 

 

Thankfully the girl was still alive but was crying her eyes out and her leg was covered in blood.

That could easily have been her head.....

 

What is wrong with these people that they are so irresponsible as to not put a helmet on their child's head before driving the bike?

Are they lacking in education, awareness or are they just too damn lazy to do it?

They can afford the bike, so why not a child's helmet from Tesco?

 

I see the same thing day in day out, parents driving bikes at high speed with kids on the front and no crash helmet...

Will the Thai's ever learn?

 

You are not new here, so stop bleating about irresponsibility, awareness, education or laziness. It has nothing to do with it.

[Patong2021]

3 hours ago, BarBoy said:

it's beyond belief mate.

 

Taxi driver looked at me the same way when I buckled up yesterday.

Some taxi's don't even have the seat buckle available in the back seats!

 

And then many insist on them. My limo drivers all require pax buckle up. The airport bus to Hua Hin (and Pattaya) all require pax to buckle up.

[BarBoy]

31 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

 

You are not new here, so stop bleating about irresponsibility, awareness, education or laziness. It has nothing to do with it.

what then, in your opinion, has the lack of putting a helmet on a babies head got to do with?

[Yagoda]

3 hours ago, BarBoy said:

Yesterday, on the way home from the pub (in a taxi), I witnessed a crash between a motorbike and a car. Traffic was backed up for a few minutes and when It was my turn to pass I saw the driver of the bike pick up a baby girl that had been with him on his scooter when it crashed - with no bleeding helmet! 

 

Thankfully the girl was still alive but was crying her eyes out and her leg was covered in blood.

That could easily have been her head.....

 

What is wrong with these people that they are so irresponsible as to not put a helmet on their child's head before driving the bike?

Are they lacking in education, awareness or are they just too damn lazy to do it?

They can afford the bike, so why not a child's helmet from Tesco?

 

I see the same thing day in day out, parents driving bikes at high speed with kids on the front and no crash helmet...

Will the Thai's ever learn?

Guess you havent been here long enough.

[BarBoy]

Just now, Yagoda said:

Guess you havent been here long enough.

how have you come to that conclusion? 

[Yagoda]

2 minutes ago, BarBoy said:

how have you come to that conclusion? 

Well its pretty obvious by your posts? Do you ride a motorcycle here?

[BarBoy]

Just now, Yagoda said:

Well its pretty obvious by your posts? Do you ride a motorcycle here?

Yes I do.

 

And I ride a car as well..

 

What on earth is your point?

[Yagoda]

1 minute ago, BarBoy said:

Yes I do.

 

And I ride a car as well..

 

What on earth is your point?

And how long have you been here?

[BarBoy]

8 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

And how long have you been here?

What's that got to do with you, and what has that got to do with my OP???

[richard_smith237]

54 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

I am not into insulting people.

You will find that a weird concept.

Not my thing.

 

Yet you couldn't even wait 5 minutes before contradicting yourself... 

 

51 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

So no then. 
I feel sorry for your in-laws. 
I can only imagine some of the things they must have been through with you over the years.

 

 

[Yagoda]

4 minutes ago, BarBoy said:

What's that got yo do with you, and what has that got to do with my OP???

I would think that after having seen years of MC accidents and car accidents, and riding yourself in shorts and flip flops, you would be inured to the sight of road carnage.

[ThaiPauly]

4 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

Not usual, the worse is when the dodgy thai rider has one hand on the handlebar and one hand holding a baby

As well as holding the baby he's got a mobile too 

[Yagoda]

5 minutes ago, ThaiPauly said:

As well as holding the baby he's got a mobile too 

Whats your record? I have a family of 5 many times

[Lacessit]

1 hour ago, MalcolmB said:

I am not into insulting people.

You will find that a weird concept.

Not my thing.

You prefer insulting their intelligence?

[Keep Right]

What I find interesting is that many Western foreigners also drive like the Thais with no helmets in flip-fops weaving in and out of traffic with their little brown tee luk on the back.

[NorthernRyland]

I try to get in to their heads and it feels to me like the public is the jungle for them, every man for themselves. There's some wall they hit when in public and they can't seem to communicate their collective needs together. It's almost like they're not at that level of civilization yet. By far the worst part about living here.

 

And of course nothing will be learned from this like every other preventable crash on the roads.

[Lacessit]

2 hours ago, impulse said:

 

Again.  None of my business.  I left the nanny state behind. 

 

I'm thankful that I never have to choose between buying a helmet or eating this week.  Not all Thai families have that luxury.

 

 

You are exaggerating, Thailand is ranked 52 out of 127 countries on the Global Hunger Index.

 

Perhaps you have not been here long enough to know every temple has free food for the needy. There's only 43,500 of them.

 

Please tell me how a Thai family can afford a scooter costing 50,000 baht, but not helmets costing 300 baht.

 

That's a choice coming more out of ignorance than financial necessity.

 

Not all nanny state regulation is bad, but people do throw out the baby with the bathwater.

[BarBoy]

5 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

You are exaggerating, Thailand is ranked 52 out of 127 countries on the Global Hunger Index.

How does Thailand rank in the global car/motorbike accident index?

[Gandtee]

4 hours ago, Gandtee said:

No!

No! Sadly they won't learn. Karma?

[Lacessit]

1 minute ago, BarBoy said:

How does Thailand rank in the global car/motorbike crash index?

Very poorly. IIRC it comes second to Libya the last time I looked.

[BarBoy]

2 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Very poorly. IIRC it comes second to Libya the last time I looked.

Jaysus.

 

That is grim.

[NanLaew]

10 minutes ago, Gandtee said:

No! Sadly they won't learn. Karma?

 

Getting closer, but nothing to with the locals learning anything. It's more about the hot-and-bothered foreigners posting on these 'road carnage' threads, learning about and appreciating the causality of karma.

[BarBoy]

4 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

but nothing to with the locals learning anything.

do you think they are capable of learning?

[1sickpuppy]

4 hours ago, BarBoy said:

even when something does happen nothing changes here...

 

business as usual. 

Free est country in the world, i hope it stays this way, only been knocked off my bike once in 30 years, 4 times in Australia bloody idiots there neo nazi pigs as well

[scottiejohn]

1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

Whats your record? I have a family of 5 many times

Doing what?

[BarBoy]

4 minutes ago, 1sickpuppy said:

neo nazi pigs as well

who are?

[NanLaew]

45 minutes ago, BarBoy said:

do you think they are capable of learning?

 

yes, they are way more capable of learning than you are of insulting them