Proof of address?

[phetphet]

22 hours ago, Guderian said:

 It's for the annual retirement extension. My TOT internet bill has always been accepted in the past, but the most recent one from NT is six months old and I'm worried that the IO may decide it's too old.

i always take a photocopy of my building's Blue Book. It doesn't have my name on it, but has always been accepted for Retirement extensions, and applying for certificate of residence.

[SAFETY FIRST]

13 minutes ago, Guderian said:

. BTW, which office are you using, I'm in Pattaya so it's Jomtien

Chonburi, Pattaya, yes Jomtien

 

I've been using my blue house book for ages, back when Pattaya immigration were located soi 8 Beach Road. 

 

 

[Guderian]

1 minute ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Chonburi, Pattaya, yes Jomtien

 

I've been using my blue house book for ages, back when Pattaya immigration were located soi 8 Beach Road. 

 

 

 

OK, thanks, the blue book would certainly be the simplest solution by a long way.

[SAFETY FIRST]

10 minutes ago, Guderian said:

 

OK, thanks, the blue book would certainly be the simplest solution by a long way.

Glad I could help 👍

 

[Caldera]

36 minutes ago, DrJoy said:

Foreigners who hold Thai Permanent Residence Book can add their name in the Blue House Book (Tabien Baan)

 

Yes, but once you are a permanent resident, you won't need proof of address for immigration any longer. 

[Briggsy]

14 minutes ago, Caldera said:

 

Yes, but once you are a permanent resident, you won't need proof of address for immigration any longer. 

Precisely

[Maestro]

On 12/14/2024 at 8:53 AM, gomangosteen said:

Thursday I was at Kasikorn in our town requesting a letter that showed my full name, account number and address to meet requirements of my New Zealand bank and their new anti money laundering laws for when I transfer funds; branch manager said they "could not provide address verification".

 

I suspect that the refusal of your Kasikorn branch was due to what I call "information overload"

 

All you wanted was "a letter that showed my full name, account number and address" but you added the unnecessary information about meeting "requirements of my New Zealand bank and their new anti money laundering laws for when I transfer funds" and that talk about anti money laundering scared them off.

 

Most likely, if you had simply asked for last month's signed bank statement, it would ould have been given to you without a problem.

[Will B Good]

15 minutes ago, Maestro said:

 

I suspect that the refusal of your Kasikorn branch was due to what I call "information overload"

 

All you wanted was "a letter that showed my full name, account number and address" but you added the unnecessary information about meeting "requirements of my New Zealand bank and their new anti money laundering laws for when I transfer funds" and that talk about anti money laundering scared them off.

 

Most likely, if you had simply asked for last month's signed bank statement, it would ould have been given to you without a problem.

 

Just had to pay a solicitors bill in the UK...only £200.....but I had to send my last three months bank statements all certified by a professional person........is this the new norm????....Money laundering laws???

[GroveHillWanderer]

21 hours ago, ukrules said:

Interesting, when I went to the bank I did not ask for address verification.

 

I first asked them to change my address to English which they did to my satisfaction, I had also changed address but it was in Thai so I told them to put it in English which they did.

Then I asked for a printed statement for the last 3 months which they provided.
 

I mentioned nothing about address verification as a bank statement with my address in English was the only requirement.

 

I then used the printed statement with English language address for a foreign financial institution which accepts bank statements for their KYC process and I used it multiple times inside the same week while it was still fresh.

No need to complicate things by telling them what you're going to use it for. If they accept a bank statement then that's good enough.

Perhaps this is the difference here.

Of course whether immigration will accept it is anyones guess but you can get it printed at the bank as a proper statement contains the address.

That's what I did when I needed an address verification when transferring to a new financial management company recently. I just asked at my Kasikorn bank branch for a statement. I didn't tell them what it was for, and they provided it (at a fee of course) with no problem. They've only ever had my address in English, since I opened the account, so that's what appeared on it.

 

It was accepted without demur by the company I sent it to.

 

I've previously asked for a statement and volunteered the information that it was to support a UK visa application for my wife (which it was) - but they wouldn't have known the difference if it wasn't.

[MangoKorat]

On 12/13/2024 at 9:26 AM, Guderian said:

I know you can take a copy of your chanote or whatever and use that,

Given that the Chanotte cannot be in your name - how could you use that?

[GroveHillWanderer]

5 hours ago, Guderian said:

Please explain how that works, since the blue book is only for Thai names and, without your own farang name listed in it, it doesn't prove anything at all as far as I can see.

You're right that it doesn't prove anything, but I also always produce it when processing my yearly extensions and they always seem happy to accept it. (I don't have a rental agreement as my daughter owns the house so I don't pay rent and none of the utility bills are in my name).

[ukrules]

1 hour ago, Maestro said:

I suspect that the refusal of your Kasikorn branch was due to what I call "information overload"

 

Exactly this, never tell them more than you need to as the results can be VERY unpredictable unless their English comprehension level is very good - and it's usually not.

 

Once I was ordering a toasted sandwich and asked them to make it with white bread instead of brown bread. Same sandwich just different bread.

Instead of getting the tuna / cheese melt on brown bread as listed on the menu I got a club sandwich on brown bread instead.

I just ate it and it was indeed a tasty sandwich but I learned a valuable lesson that day - only ever speak the bare minimum unless it's completely necessary.
 

[Guderian]

1 hour ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

You're right that it doesn't prove anything, but I also always produce it when processing my yearly extensions and they always seem happy to accept it. (I don't have a rental agreement as my daughter owns the house so I don't pay rent and none of the utility bills are in my name).

 

Great, thanks, it seems like the way to go. I'd wondered for years how people who get free accommodation manage to prove their address, and now I understand.

[khunPer]

On 12/13/2024 at 10:26 AM, Guderian said:

Like many people, I own a house via a company, and for the last 13 years I've just used the latest TOT bill for my internet and landline as proof of address for Immigration purposes. I've never had any problem with that, it's worked like a charm. The water and electricity are in the company name, so those bills are no use. I know you can take a copy of your chanote or whatever and use that, but the TOT bill is much simpler. However, since NT took over TOT, they seem to be reluctant to send out monthly bills any more, instead sending text reminders to pay it online.

 

Is there a way to get NT/TOT to send you a bill? If not, then what is the best means of providing proof of address to Immigration if you own a house via a company? I suppose I could try and get the PEA to change the billing address from my company name to my own, but I've no idea how difficult that would be. I bank with SCB, but I haven't had any paper mail from them for years. Is there some other officially recognised bill or document with your name and address on it that can be used instead, or is the chanote the only other way?

Get a yellow house book for aliens with your name in, then you have proof of address for almost everything. The owner of the blue house book, or the registered host or house master, can approve who is permitted to be regikstered in a house book on the property.

 

Check with your local tessa ban-office, what they require for aregistering you in a yellow house book. Normally it would be an approced translation of name page in passport and two witnesses, normally asked for that one witness is a neighbour and another withness is an government employee.

[gomangosteen]

6 hours ago, Maestro said:

 

I suspect that the refusal of your Kasikorn branch was due to what I call "information overload"

 

All you wanted was "a letter that showed my full name, account number and address" but you added the unnecessary information about meeting "requirements of my New Zealand bank and their new anti money laundering laws for when I transfer funds" and that talk about anti money laundering scared them off.

 

Most likely, if you had simply asked for last month's signed bank statement, it would ould have been given to you without a problem.

A lot of guesswork there. Not what I said at all.

 

I took a previous letter I had from same branch last year which showed my name and account number, only change was i asked for it to include my address and that day's date, nothing more, no need to explain my purpose.

[Liverpool Lou]

On 12/13/2024 at 4:26 PM, Guderian said:

since NT took over TOT, they seem to be reluctant to send out monthly bills any more, instead sending text reminders to pay it online.

 

Is there a way to get NT/TOT to send you a bill?

Call them and request a mailed bill, I have always had my TOT/NT bill in the post.

[Liverpool Lou]

On 12/14/2024 at 3:35 PM, topt said:

I have used True bills in the past but now all online.

Still get my True bills in the post.   Some time ago I called them because they hadn't sent the bill as usual (or maybe they sent it and it got lost, I don't know) so they emailed it to me and said that I could have all future bills by email or continue by post, the choice was mine.  If you want a mailed bill, call them and ask.

[Liverpool Lou]

6 hours ago, Will B Good said:

 

Just had to pay a solicitors bill in the UK...only £200.....but I had to send my last three months bank statements all certified by a professional person........is this the new norm????....Money laundering laws???

No, it is not.  You could have simply sent the solicitor a SWIFT payment.  

[kinyara]

I've always used my driving licence without an issue at Jomtien immigration. It's one of the forms of address ID they list as acceptable. A copy of  your blue book showing the same address just as back-up.

[Will B Good]

12 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

No, it is not.  You could have simply sent the solicitor a SWIFT payment.  

 

They didn't offer me that option???

[Liverpool Lou]

14 hours ago, Will B Good said:

15 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

No, it is not.  You could have simply sent the solicitor a SWIFT payment.  

 

They didn't offer me that option???

How was that solicitor specifying payment of the £200 and what method did you use for that international payment?    And. for £200, why would that solicitor have any right to, or interest in, your last three months bank transactions?   Seems that there must have been more to it than just paying a normal £200 bill.   

[Will B Good]

11 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

How was that solicitor specifying payment of the £200 and what method did you use for that international payment?    And. for £200, why would that solicitor have any right to, or interest in, your last three months bank transactions?   Seems that there must have been more to it than just paying a normal £200 bill.   

Didn't specify how it should be paid......only requirement was show where the money came from sale of a car, remortgage, loan from a friend.....whole list of where you might obtain funds.

 

I just did a direct UK bank transfer.....and that was the reason for the statements.

[churchill]

On 12/15/2024 at 9:15 AM, Guderian said:

 

Please explain how that works, since the blue book is only for Thai names and, without your own farang name listed in it, it doesn't prove anything at all as far as I can see.

 

I have my name in blue book - I think as house master / 

[Maestro]

On 12/16/2024 at 12:04 PM, churchill said:

 

I have my name in blue book - I think as house master / 

 

I think your thinking is wrong. Have the possessor of the blue book you are talking about explain how your name — probably only your forename(s) — got there.

[bigt3116]

On 12/14/2024 at 8:53 AM, gomangosteen said:

Could only laugh. I opened that account October 2023 and they required my 'yellow book' plus a letter from NZ Embassy to confirm my address, as well as the house tabian baan (in wife's name) and her ID. 

 

Obviously only works one-way! Plan B I went to a Notary Public that afternoon, he signed/stamped a declaration for the bargain price of 2000 baht. 

 

Are you serious?

 

How on earth does the bank know where you live NOW ?

 

 

[churchill]

5 hours ago, Maestro said:

 

I think your thinking is wrong. Have the possessor of the blue book you are talking about explain how your name — probably only your forename(s) — got there.

 

No I just checked - Full Name - after House name 

[churchill]

' Have the possessor of the blue book you are talking about explain how your name ' 'got there.' 

 

 It is my blue book - as i am house owner .

 

I went to Tesse Bahn many years ago and asked them to put it - on recommendation from Samui immigration .

[CallumWK]

14 minutes ago, churchill said:

' Have the possessor of the blue book you are talking about explain how your name ' 'got there.' 

 

 It is my blue book - as i am house owner .

 

I went to Tesse Bahn many years ago and asked them to put it - on recommendation from Samui immigration .

 

Do you own the land, or are you talking about a condominium?

[churchill]

3 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

 

Do you own the land, or are you talking about a condominium?

 

Yes - Company owns the land - 

[CallumWK]

1 minute ago, churchill said:

 

Yes - Company owns the land - 

 

Yes what?

If a company owns the land, you obviously don't own it