Here's what happens when the world's richest man buys the presidency

[rct99q]

13 hours ago, ericthai said:

There still are programs that allow for migrant workers and these workers are legal workers, they enter the USA with a work visa mostly the H1B 

 

If there is a law and you're not following the law then it's illegal, that its!   

The Thai police do nothing about under age (no license)  kids driving motorcycles, so according to you that makes it legal?

 

 

Yes, in a sense it does make it legal. Again, why do kids in Thailand ride motor bikes? To get to school, get things for mom or dad for work, joy riding? But law enforcement knows it happens, parents know, kids go thru check stops all the time. If Thailand "enforced" the law, some kids wouldn't be able to go to school, some mom & pop stores couldn't open, grandma couldn't get to the temple etc., so yes in a sense they have legalized it without changing the laws because it would prove detrimental to society, much like immigration is allowed, albeit "illegally" in the US. I am sure in the coming months and years you will see the immigration policies of The Trump will be different than the bluster of today. Why? They will soon realize just what a negative impact removing all illegals will have on US society. Maybe I am wrong, will see what the next 2 years brings.

[Hawaiian]

11 minutes ago, rct99q said:

Yes, in a sense it does make it legal. Again, why do kids in Thailand ride motor bikes? To get to school, get things for mom or dad for work, joy riding? But law enforcement knows it happens, parents know, kids go thru check stops all the time. If Thailand "enforced" the law, some kids wouldn't be able to go to school, some mom & pop stores couldn't open, grandma couldn't get to the temple etc., so yes in a sense they have legalized it without changing the laws because it would prove detrimental to society, much like immigration is allowed, albeit "illegally" in the US. I am sure in the coming months and years you will see the immigration policies of The Trump will be different than the bluster of today. Why? They will soon realize just what a negative impact removing all illegals will have on US society. Maybe I am wrong, will see what the next 2 years brings.

Not a very convincing analogy.  Just because the Thai police don't crack down on kids riding motor bikes does not make it legal in any sense of the word. 

As far as the removal impact goes, I doubt it will be serious because the deportations will be gradual and the economy will adjust gradually.  Hopefully, any negative impacts will be matched by similar positive impacts.  As you say, we will have to wait and see.

[transam]

I reckon Musk is an odd-ball, now trying to get his finger into every pie because folk are taken in by his cash, even Trump has fallen for it...

 

Putin thinks he will have Trump under his thumb, Musk and Putin think the same.....🤗

 

Trump is a salesman, gift of the gab, with nothing to back it up........🤥

 

Trump even thinks Kim is his chum, next minute, missiles are flying over Japan and now supplying cannon fodder to Putin..........😂

[OneMoreFarang]

20 hours ago, jesimps said:

improving law and order

By voting a criminal to be POTUS?

555

[transam]

Just now, OneMoreFarang said:

By voting a criminal to be POTUS?

555

They can't see that.....................🤣

[RocketDog]

On 12/19/2024 at 9:51 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

Still crying that Harris lost, apparently. 😪

Just stating facts.

Take it leave it.

You're the one emotionally involved.

[Thingamabob]

On 12/19/2024 at 11:56 AM, simple1 said:

 

There is a consistency from MAGA supporters on this forum - inability to comprehend the author and content of an opinion article posted for debate.

Depends very much on the level of stupidity, and the quality of language, contained in 'an opinion article posted for debate'. Many of them are not worth a moment of anyone's day.

[Hawaiian]

2 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

Depends very much on the level of stupidity, and the quality of language, contained in 'an opinion article posted for debate'. Many of them are not worth a moment of anyone's day.

Garbage in, garbage out.

[Thingamabob]

Just now, Hawaiian said:

Garbage in, garbage out.

Precisely. 

[gamb00ler]

13 hours ago, G_Money said:

Who told you that?   Lyndon Johnson?

Doesn't matter who.... you're claiming otherwise with no backup, right?

 

https://www.ssa.gov/news/press/factsheets/HowAreSocialSecurity.htm#:~:text=Social Security is financed through,self-employed pay 12.4 percent.

 

https://www.ssa.gov/OACT/ProgData/fyOps.html

 

 

[gamb00ler]

3 hours ago, simple1 said:

 

Where is your source of truth? The member is correct

 

The Social Security trust funds are invested entirely in U.S. Treasury securities. Like the Treasury bills, notes, and bonds purchased by private investors around the world, the Treasury securities that the trust funds hold are backed by the full faith and credit of the U.S. government

 

https://www.cbpp.org/research/social-security/understanding-the-social-security-trust-funds-0#:~:text=The Social Security trust funds are invested entirely in U.S.,credit of the U.S. government.

 

3 hours ago, G_Money said:

The issue wasn’t about what the trust fund are  invested in.

 

 

As is typical of you and your misinformed brethren ... you don't have the patience to read all the way to the end of the article to see you opinion blown to smithereens.  You have two more attempts before you head back to the dugout as a strikeout statistic.

[Hawaiian]

13 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

Doesn't matter who.... you're claiming otherwise with no backup, right?

 

https://www.ssa.gov/news/press/factsheets/HowAreSocialSecurity.htm#:~:text=Social Security is financed through,self-employed pay 12.4 percent.

 

https://www.ssa.gov/OACT/ProgData/fyOps.html

 

 

I read both articles prior to you posting the 2 links just to get it from "the horses mouth."  Unfortunately, some don't want to accept information even when it comes from an official government source.

 

[simple1]

2 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

Depends very much on the level of stupidity, and the quality of language, contained in 'an opinion article posted for debate'. Many of them are not worth a moment of anyone's day.

 

Obviously depends on your opinions, some will concur, others will not - likely roughly 50 - 50 split

[mrwebb8825]

On 12/16/2024 at 3:19 AM, Lacessit said:

I don't know why anyone should be surprised, government by oligarchs is coming to America.

 

It's going to get messy when the trump sheeple at the bottom of the pyramid realize how completely they have been conned.

 

Maybe the Second Amendment will become useful, according to the Law of Unintended Consequences.

Really? That started a few years earlier by Harry Truman (D):

Harry Truman was among the poorest U.S. presidents, with a net worth considerably less than $1 million. His financial situation contributed to the doubling of the presidential salary to $100,000 in 1949. In addition, the presidential pension was created in 1958 when Truman was again experiencing financial difficulties.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_presidents_of_the_United_States_by_net_worth

 

[khunJam]

On 12/16/2024 at 3:02 PM, simple1 said:

Interesting opinion piece...

 

GOP legislators are toying with reducing payouts under the system, including raising the retirement age and other benefit cuts. As one GOP representative recently told Fox Business Network, “we're going to have to have some hard decisions” on Social Security, Medicaid, and Medicare.

 

Trump’s GOP will be making “hard” choices, meaning they will be cutting benefits, in order to fund tax cuts for wealthy donors.

 

Here's what happens when the world's richest man buys the presidency | Opinion

Umm…..excuse me sir but the world’s richest man did not buy the presidency. Please try not to apply your name on op’s it looks rather unbecoming.

[BarBoy]

Make America The Best Again.

[scottiejohn]

20 minutes ago, BarBoy said:

Make America The Best Again.

How?

It never has been the best of anything apart from blowing it's own Trump(et)!

😀

 

 

[scottiejohn]

29 minutes ago, khunJam said:

Umm…..excuse me sir but the world’s richest man did not buy the presidency. Please try not to apply your name on op’s it looks rather unbecoming.

No the President elect sucked up to the world's richest man!

Let us see how this pans out!

[Lacessit]

59 minutes ago, mrwebb8825 said:

Really? That started a few years earlier by Harry Truman (D):

Harry Truman was among the poorest U.S. presidents, with a net worth considerably less than $1 million. His financial situation contributed to the doubling of the presidential salary to $100,000 in 1949. In addition, the presidential pension was created in 1958 when Truman was again experiencing financial difficulties.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_presidents_of_the_United_States_by_net_worth

 

I'm sorry , I am somewhat confused as to what connection your post has to mine.

[BarBoy]

9 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

How?

It never has been the best of anything apart from blowing it's own Trump(et)!

😀

 

 

The west has given the world the best of everything.

Everyone else just copies.

 

Even the device you are replying to me on now.

Do you think the idea for the technology was born in the east or the west?

 

Your mind has been poisoned by leftist garbage for too long, John

Time to wake up!

 

[scottiejohn]

4 minutes ago, BarBoy said:

The west

The USA is only a part of the west.

It is NOT the west, it is only a country in the so called west!

[ericthai]

14 hours ago, Lacessit said:

41 is not a huge number compared to the millions allegedly in America. It's a fairly tenuous point. As far as criminality goes, there is probably more among Americans.

 

Are looters shot on the spot in America? I am surprised in a trigger-happy country, that is not happening.

 

I assume the use of the adjective diffident with respect to minimum wages is a typo, albeit a quite amusing one.

 

 

When you catch 64 people and 41 are illegal thats an issue!

[scottiejohn]

11 minutes ago, BarBoy said:

Even the device you are replying to me on now.

The method of communicating on these devices we are using now was invented by a British Scientist.

 

Tim Berners-Lee began writing WorldWideWeb, the first web browser, after two years of lobbying CERN management. By Christmas 1990, Berners-Lee had built all the tools necessary for a working Web: the HyperText Transfer Protocol (HTTP) 0.9, the HyperText Markup Language (HTML), the first Web browser (which was also an HTML editor and could access Usenet newsgroups and FTP files), the first HTTP server software (later known as CERN httpd), the first web server, and the first Web pages that described the project itself

Internet - Wikipedia

[khunJam]

29 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

No the President elect sucked up to the world's richest man!

Let us see how this pans out!

Oh that’s really gotta bug you big time! Especially losing after all that heart felt effort of supporting Kamala with the same disappointment you will have to endure for the next few years. Get over it, your team lost now it’s time to grow a pair.

[Walker88]

Elon is not the Deep State; he is THE State, right out in the open.

 

In fact, he's Leo Di Caprio on the bow of the Titanic, screaming, "I'm the King of the World!"

 

Musk is running the transition and calling the shots in the US. Last night he decided it's time to interfere in Germany, too.

 

The right always barks about George Soros. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't remember Soros heading to Delaware or Chicago or Arkansas to meet with Biden, Obama or Clinton. Musk sets the dinner menu at Mar-a-Lago, and is 47's shadow, or perhaps 47 is now in Musk's shadow. Musk has the strings of his puppet, 47.

 

At this time, 47 has to run his own ideas past Elon. 47 was ready to support the spending Bill, but Elon quashed it and put 47 in line.

 

Absent an 11th hour deal---47 sycophant Speaker Johnson has just come out playing 47 with "a concept of a plan"---Christmas is postponed. No budget deal and a govt closure may well mean airports close, as ATC personnel won't be getting paid, nor will TSA employees. Those on a govt pension or living off Social Security won't be getting their checks.

 

Anyway, it all depends on what President Musk decides is best for him. We know he loves carbon credits, because that gives Tesla buyers a $7500 tax rebate. He and his partner Vivek might decide the US no longer needs NASA, but it can be replaced by Space-X.

 

There's an interesting editorial on the Aussie site new.com.au, which can be seen here:

 

https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/beginning-of-the-end-elon-musk-overreaches-in-his-relationship-with-donald-trump/news-story/fd8772e86b0a8b4d80a93816d3cc8a6f

 

A quote from the editorial:

 

"Elon lobbied Republicans to ditch the bill, while Mr Trump said nothing. Once it became apparent that Elon had succeeded in killing it, Mr Trump belatedly came out to echo his position.

 

That is not authority. It’s a last-minute scramble to save face."

[mrwebb8825]

31 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I'm sorry , I am somewhat confused as to what connection your post has to mine.

Every president in history, save 1 has been rich, you're just confused by the terms we use in America comrade.

[BarBoy]

28 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

The method of communicating on these devices we are using now was invented by a British Scientist.

 

Tim Berners-Lee began writing WorldWideWeb, the first web browser, after two years of lobbying CERN management. By Christmas 1990, Berners-Lee had built all the tools necessary for a working Web: the HyperText Transfer Protocol (HTTP) 0.9, the HyperText Markup Language (HTML), the first Web browser (which was also an HTML editor and could access Usenet newsgroups and FTP files), the first HTTP server software (later known as CERN httpd), the first web server, and the first Web pages that described the project itself

Internet - Wikipedia

Yes.

 

Britain is also a part of the west.

 

Tim Berners-Lee is a westerner. 

[stevenl]

4 minutes ago, BarBoy said:

Yes.

 

Britain is also a part of the west.

 

Tim Berners-Lee is a westerner. 

So make America the best again, and they were the best because an Englishman invented the www.

Sure.

[Lacessit]

7 minutes ago, mrwebb8825 said:

Every president in history, save 1 has been rich, you're just confused by the terms we use in America comrade.

From the information you posted, 9 presidents had a net worth less than $1 million, and there is only one billionaire.

 

Perhaps you should try reading your own research before posting.

[mrwebb8825]

48 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

From the information you posted, 9 presidents had a net worth less than $1 million, and there is only one billionaire.

 

Perhaps you should try reading your own research before posting.

I do: $100,000 in 1953 has the same "purchasing power" or "buying power" as $1,181,621.72 in 2024

 

That's just the starting salary - doesn't include personal wealth.

 

https://www.in2013dollars.com/us/inflation/1953?amount=100000

 

ETA: remember I said 'rich' people being presidents.

Voters not so much: Burgess, Director, Bureau of the Cen- sus, Department of Commerce. The median income of men with money incomes in 1953 was estimated at $3,200, about $100 or 4 percent greater in in 1952. The median income of women was estimated at about $1,200 in both years.