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4 hours ago, Social Media said:

The Commission emphasized that the violations in question occurred at the end of 2020, shortly after the transition period concluded.

There’s a surprise.

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Fairly typical.

 

The EU suing the UK in the EU courts.

 

Nothing like adding a bit of bias is there?

 

AFAIR the UK is no longer a member of the EU anyway.

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It amazes me that people posting on a Thai based forum, possibly living in Thailand, are advocating that the UK should allow free movement of people.

 

Would your Thai wife or partner get free movement to the UK, or would you have to jump through some financial hoops to get them to the UK legally ?
 

You should all be in Bangkok on a daily basis, waving banners, advocating that Thailand opens its borders to all and scrap everything to do with immigration reporting.

 

Go on, give us all a laugh, as we watch the news feeds of you all getting rounded up and held in a secure place until deportation.

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10 minutes ago, The Cyclist said:

It amazes me that people posting on a Thai based forum, possibly living in Thailand, are advocating that the UK should allow free movement of people.

 

Would your Thai wife or partner get free movement to the UK, or would you have to jump through some financial hoops to get them to the UK legally ?
 

You should all be in Bangkok on a daily basis, waving banners, advocating that Thailand opens its borders to all and scrap everything to do with immigration reporting.

 

Go on, give us all a laugh, as we watch the news feeds of you all getting rounded up and held in a secure place until deportation.

What amazes me is that whole post is premised on a false claim in the opening sentence.

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5 hours ago, Social Media said:

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The European Commission has initiated legal action against the United Kingdom, accusing it of violating the terms of the Brexit agreement. This marks the first significant clash between Brussels and London since Keir Starmer's government took office. At the heart of the dispute is Britain’s alleged failure to uphold EU law concerning the free movement of people.  

 

Under the Brexit deal, finalized when the UK officially left the European Union in early 2020, both sides agreed to protect the rights of citizens who had already settled across their respective borders. This meant European nationals and their families living in the UK were to retain their rights to reside, work, and study, while British nationals would have equivalent rights within EU member states. However, the European Commission contends that Britain has not fully complied with these provisions, and has taken the matter to the Court of Justice of the European Union (ECJ).  

 

Although Brexit formally ended the UK's obligation to adhere to EU law, certain aspects of the withdrawal agreement remain under the jurisdiction of the ECJ. This arrangement has been a contentious issue, particularly among pro-Brexit politicians in Britain, who view the continued influence of the European court as undermining UK sovereignty.  

 

In a strongly worded statement, the European Commission criticized the UK’s “shortcomings” in implementing the agreement, asserting that these failures continue to negatively impact EU citizens. "After carefully assessing the replies of the United Kingdom, the Commission maintains that several elements of the grievances remain unaddressed, including on the rights of workers and the rights of extended family members,” the statement read.

 

The Commission emphasized that the violations in question occurred at the end of 2020, shortly after the transition period concluded. It noted that Britain’s actions, or lack thereof, have left unresolved issues that affect the lives of many EU nationals.  

 

As the legal dispute unfolds, it underscores the ongoing tensions and complexities in post-Brexit relations, with both sides striving to navigate the challenges of maintaining commitments while asserting their respective interests.

 

Based on a report by Politico 2024-12-17

 

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A two way street. The EU are doing much the same with Brits who have settled in the EU.

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1 hour ago, soalbundy said:

Can't come soon enough. I'm sure most people in the UK now see Brexit was a mistake.

 

How about the people of France and Germany ?
 

Are their respective problems down to Brexit also ?
 

Anyone with a more than 2 braincells could have told the EU that when the ' Net takers ' exceed the ' Net Contributors ' problems were going to arise.

 

At the National level, the same applies, hence debt is spiralling out of control, Public Services are in the toilet, and yet some continue to howl about free movement.

 

Controlled migration is a boon for a Country, unfettered immigration is a disaster for a Country.

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31 minutes ago, Surasak said:

A two way street. The EU are doing much the same with Brits who have settled in the EU.

I agree. The problem seems the exit conditions from brexit where not as strict as people belived.  Starmer will set us back to square one instead of correction tme mistakes. 

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6 hours ago, Social Media said:

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The European Commission has initiated legal action against the United Kingdom, accusing it of violating the terms of the Brexit agreement. This marks the first significant clash between Brussels and London since Keir Starmer's government took office. At the heart of the dispute is Britain’s alleged failure to uphold EU law concerning the free movement of people.  

 

Under the Brexit deal, finalized when the UK officially left the European Union in early 2020, both sides agreed to protect the rights of citizens who had already settled across their respective borders. This meant European nationals and their families living in the UK were to retain their rights to reside, work, and study, while British nationals would have equivalent rights within EU member states. However, the European Commission contends that Britain has not fully complied with these provisions, and has taken the matter to the Court of Justice of the European Union (ECJ).  

 

Although Brexit formally ended the UK's obligation to adhere to EU law, certain aspects of the withdrawal agreement remain under the jurisdiction of the ECJ. This arrangement has been a contentious issue, particularly among pro-Brexit politicians in Britain, who view the continued influence of the European court as undermining UK sovereignty.  

 

 

In a strongly worded statement, the European Commission criticized the UK’s “shortcomings” in implementing the agreement, asserting that these failures continue to negatively impact EU citizens. "After carefully assessing the replies of the United Kingdom, the Commission maintains that several elements of the grievances remain unaddressed, including on the rights of workers and the rights of extended family members,” the statement read.

 

The Commission emphasized that the violations in question occurred at the end of 2020, shortly after the transition period concluded. It noted that Britain’s actions, or lack thereof, have left unresolved issues that affect the lives of many EU nationals.  

 

As the legal dispute unfolds, it underscores the ongoing tensions and complexities in post-Brexit relations, with both sides striving to navigate the challenges of maintaining commitments while asserting their respective interests.

 

Based on a report by Politico 2024-12-17

 

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Thank you EU. Beat them!😂

Posted
1 hour ago, The Cyclist said:

 

How about the people of France and Germany ?
 

Are their respective problems down to Brexit also ?
 

Anyone with a more than 2 braincells could have told the EU that when the ' Net takers ' exceed the ' Net Contributors ' problems were going to arise.

 

At the National level, the same applies, hence debt is spiralling out of control, Public Services are in the toilet, and yet some continue to howl about free movement.

 

Controlled migration is a boon for a Country, unfettered immigration is a disaster for a Country.

 

As Michel Barnier said, "There are no winners with Brexit".

 

Although the effects of Brexit on the EU member states haven't been the subject of as much research as in the UK, given that France and Germany are major trading partners and allies of the UK, it would be surprising if those two countries hadn't also been negatively affected by Brexit albeit not to the same extent as the UK.

 

There were fewer immigrants to the UK, both in absolute numbers and in terms of net migration, under the 'uncontrolled' free movement of people, when we were an EU member compared with the post-Brexit 'controlled' situation.

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1 hour ago, The Cyclist said:

 

How about the people of France and Germany ?
 

Are their respective problems down to Brexit also ?
 

Anyone with a more than 2 braincells could have told the EU that when the ' Net takers ' exceed the ' Net Contributors ' problems were going to arise.

 

At the National level, the same applies, hence debt is spiralling out of control, Public Services are in the toilet, and yet some continue to howl about free movement.

 

Controlled migration is a boon for a Country, unfettered immigration is a disaster for a Country.

In a way the net contributors are just circulating tax money, the net takers then buy the products from the contributors and so the money returns, in addition new industries slowly arise in the poorer member states, see Poland for instance, once with a lower standard of living than East Germany and now the fastest growing economy in Europe, they, unlike the UK, can afford a large modern army for instance, they are getting richer through their own efforts now while the UK's average citizens are getting poorer.

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15 minutes ago, RayC said:

As Michel Barnier said, "There are no winners with Brexit".

 

Is that him that has just been booted from Office ?
 

Don't need words of advice from an EU Sychophant, thank you very much.

Posted
1 minute ago, soalbundy said:

In a way the net contributors are just circulating tax money,

 

You keep believing that

 

35 years ago, Germany was a great place, both to visit and live and work. Put your hand on your heart and tell me the same is true today.

 

Every single of those Countries that are / were Net Contributors to the EU ate sliding down the S bend of the toilet.

 

 

Posted
4 minutes ago, The Cyclist said:

 

Is that him that has just been booted from Office ?
 

Don't need words of advice from an EU Sychophant, thank you very much.

 

Yes, that's the same fellow.

 

I could do without the irrational mutterings of xenophobes, but this is an 'open' forum so I guess that we'll both have to bite the bullet.

Posted
Just now, Purdey said:

Sign an agreement then break it.

Sounds legit. 

 

It would be better to wait for the details of what the UK has actually broken.

 

My recollection is that there

 

1 An estimated 3 million in the UK.

 

2. An actual 6.5 million applied for residence

 

3. Some were refused when they applied after the closing date.

Posted
1 minute ago, RayC said:

 

I could do without the irrational mutterings of xenophobes

 

Report the xenophobic posts, instead of throwing a word around that you have no idea of its actual meaning.

 

Xenophobic ? Take a look at the makeup of the EU Parliament and Commission, some might say that would be xenophobic.

 

Trumpet.

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