German Chancellor Olaf Scholz loses confidence vote

[CharlieH]

 

German Chancellor Olaf Scholz, who has held office since 2021, has lost a crucial vote of confidence in parliament, setting the stage for early elections on February 23.

 

Scholz initiated Monday's vote, fully aware he was likely to lose. His aim was to trigger early elections, believing it to be the best opportunity to rejuvenate his party's faltering political standing.

The vote follows the collapse of Scholz’s three-party coalition two months ago, which left him leading a fragile minority government. Speaking ahead of the vote, Scholz framed the upcoming elections as a chance for Germans to "determine the political direction of our country," signaling what is expected to be a contentious campaign season.

 

The loss of the no-confidence vote was a calculated move by Scholz, as it allows elections to be held in February, seven months earlier than the originally planned date in September.

 

Of the 717 MPs who voted, 207 supported Scholz, while 394 opposed him, and 116 abstained. With his coalition disbanded since November, Scholz has depended on opposition support to pass legislation, leaving his administration effectively paralyzed.

Faced with a stagnating economy and mounting global challenges, Scholz concluded that waiting until September 2025 for the next scheduled election would appear irresponsible to voters.

 

Polls currently show Scholz’s Social Democratic Party (SPD) trailing far behind the conservative Christian Democratic Union (CDU), led by Friedrich Merz, who is poised to form the next government.

 

A Divisive Campaign Ahead
During the debate preceding the vote, Scholz called for significant investment in defense and infrastructure, while Merz criticized his proposals, warning of increased debt and pledging tax cuts instead.

 

German tabloid Bild described Scholz’s maneuver as a "kamikaze" strategy. However, in Germany’s political system, this is one of the few ways a government can dissolve parliament to trigger an early election. Post-war constitutional safeguards were designed to prevent the instability seen during the Weimar Republic.

 

This confidence vote marks the sixth time a German chancellor has used this mechanism to resolve political gridlock, with former chancellor Gerhard Schröder employing it twice.

 

Deepening Political Fragmentation
The immediate cause of the coalition’s collapse stemmed from disputes over fiscal policy. Scholz and his Green allies sought to relax Germany's strict debt rules to fund aid for Ukraine and key infrastructure projects. However, Finance Minister Christian Lindner, leader of the pro-business Free Democratic Party (FDP), rejected these plans, prioritizing debt reduction.

 

Lindner’s dismissal led to the coalition's downfall, ending months of internal discord. While the breakup may have brought temporary relief to Berlin’s political elite, it underscores a deeper, more troubling issue.

Germany’s political landscape has grown increasingly fragmented, with more parties occupying the Bundestag and newer, more radical forces gaining traction.

 

The far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD), which first entered parliament in 2017 with 12.6% of the vote, saw its share dip to 10.4% in 2021. However, it is now polling at nearly 20%, reflecting a significant shift in voter sentiment and posing fresh challenges for the country’s democratic stability.

 

As reported by BBC

 

 

 

 

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[JonnyF]

Good news for Germany, but bad news for the EU.

 

Let's see how their machinations transpire this time to try to keep out the AFD. 

[steven100]

good news and warranted ....  has he ever done anything useful during his tenure ... I doubt it   !

[mokwit]

Not much hope after decades of Merkel rule.

[RayC]

2 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Good news for Germany, but bad news for the EU.

 

Let's see how their machinations transpire this time to try to keep out the AFD. 

 

Political instability is rarely of any benefit to anyone, so I see little reason to rejoice.

 

The German electoral system is slightly complicated, but if the AfD win >50% of first and second votes then it will almost certainly have a majority in the Bundestag. Machinations to prevent them forming a government would remain a figment of your imagination.

[JonnyF]

42 minutes ago, RayC said:

Political instability is rarely of any benefit to anyone, so I see little reason to rejoice.

 

Nonsense. 

 

If it results in a change of government for the better, it is very beneficial. Better than limping along with fools in charge like the UK is currently doing.  

 

If Germany continues down it's current path then both Germany and the EU will suffer greatly. I'd be happy if I was you. Change is badly needed. 

[newbee2022]

4 hours ago, steven100 said:

good news and warranted ....  has he ever done anything useful during his tenure ... I doubt it   !

Yes, he probably did: not getting Germany involved into a war with Russia, by denying delivery of Taurus missiles.

[newbee2022]

1 hour ago, RayC said:

 

Political instability is rarely of any benefit to anyone, so I see little reason to rejoice.

 

The German electoral system is slightly complicated, but if the AfD win >50% of first and second votes then it will almost certainly have a majority in the Bundestag. Machinations to prevent them forming a government would remain a figment of your imagination.

Your most important word is IF. 

The democratic parties got a huge majority. AFD might get around 18-20%, which is far away from 50%. 

[Gweiloman]

Seems like no one is safe from “The Curse”

 

[CHdiver]

12 minutes ago, Gweiloman said:

Seems like no one is safe from “The Curse”

 

Do I understand you correcty that the quintessence would be: If you want to stay in power as a politican then make sure you get attacked (but not beat) by Russia....

[steven100]

14 minutes ago, Gweiloman said:

Seems like no one is safe from “The Curse”

 

 

yes,  not sure why they call you ' The Curse ' .......   but we can use the ignore button if you become too much.  

[NativeBob]

His great achievement is almost demolition of german economy. The damage he brought won't be undone. 

[RayC]

3 hours ago, JonnyF said:

 

Nonsense. 

 

If it results in a change of government for the better, it is very beneficial. Better than limping along with fools in charge like the UK is currently doing.  

 

If Germany continues down it's current path then both Germany and the EU will suffer greatly. I'd be happy if I was you. Change is badly needed. 

 

Which is why I said that political instability is 'rarely' a good thing, rather than 'never'.

 

As Newbee2022 points out the key word is 'If'. If the election leads to a strong, stable coalition government forming then it will be beneficial. Unfortunately, there must be severe doubts about the prospect of that outcome.

 

I agree that a politically unstable Germany (and France) is a major problem for the EU; something I assume you are pleased about?

[thaibeachlovers]

Good news and even better if the AFD win.

 

The loony tune liberals are on the run in Europe. Sooner they are washed away the better for the suffering citizens of the Euro zone.

 

Given the demise of the German auto makers, it's hard to see how the man that presided over their downfall can survive.

[JonnyF]

15 hours ago, RayC said:

I agree that a politically unstable Germany (and France) is a major problem for the EU; something I assume you are pleased about?

 

I wish nothing but the best for the nation states of Europe. I love Europe, it's magnificent. The culture, the architecture, the food, the scenery. Marvellous. 

 

The EU on the other hand, can do one. The sooner it falls the better.

[UWEB]

5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Good news and even better if the AFD win.

 

The loony tune liberals are on the run in Europe. Sooner they are washed away the better for the suffering citizens of the Euro zone.

 

Given the demise of the German auto makers, it's hard to see how the man that presided over their downfall can survive.

Keep on dreaming that the NSAFD Fascists and criminals will make it to more than 20%. But this is what they not get into their brains, 20% is not a majority and all other Parties giving a dam on the fascists.

[candide]

It seems to be a regular pattern that post-Covid government parties lose elections or see their electorate shrink, whatever their political colour (I.e. Germany, UK, France, Poland, USA, etc... ).

[thaibeachlovers]

On 12/18/2024 at 3:34 PM, UWEB said:

Keep on dreaming that the NSAFD Fascists and criminals will make it to more than 20%. But this is what they not get into their brains, 20% is not a majority and all other Parties giving a dam on the fascists.

As long as they frighten the loonies into right wing policies like stopping illegal immigrants, it doesn't matter if they are actually in power or not.