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On 12/23/2024 at 9:51 AM, quake said:

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Yes, if ever there was a time the uk needed anotherΒ  Maggie Thatcher,Β  it's right now.

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Maggie Thatcher did some wrong things, but she also got a lot of things right, like scuppering the miners who were responsible for Wilson leading the country into bankruptcy in 1976, and sorting Scargill out.

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On 12/23/2024 at 2:14 AM, quake said:

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He should be in jail for theΒ  WMD.

Many people died and many maimed for life. because of that BS.

The fact was that there were biological compounds intended to be used in weapons. The invasion forced the Iraqis to destroy them before the. Coalition forces arrived.

Yellow cake uranium was discovered and documented.

Iraq had a stockpile of chemical weapons and had been used against Iran and the Kurds. Yes, there had beenΒ  some destruction of the stockpiles, but IraqΒ  refused to confirm that it would no longer use them. On the contrary, the Iraqis were given to boasting of their capability to use them.

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It is easy in hindsight toΒ  condemn the conclusion that there were WMD, but it was a fair conclusion based upon the previous Iraqi use of WMD and ongoing R&D.

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On 12/23/2024 at 1:29 AM, The Cyclist said:

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How can there be data to back up

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The data will be in the monthly rising unemployment figures after the start date of April 2025, if not sooner.

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You can google something like ' Wealth creators fleeing the UK " and draw your own conclusions. These people dont normally perform a song and dance and just leave. But here is one that was rather vocal

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https://www.cityam.com/pimlico-plumbers-founder-flushed-out-of-britain-over-fear-of-labours-tax-rules/

Sure, they will be involved in aggressive tax minimisation, which is not really an issue as it is what they have always done.

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Where it costs the UK economy is by closing businesses, non investment, people losing their jobs, the welfare bill rises, the income tax take drops, the National Insurance take drops. Other taxes have to rise to offset the fall in other taxes.

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Only a Socialist thinks a high tax model coupled with low wages is a recipe for success.

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Everyone else understands that to create growth, people need to have money in their pocket to create that growth, taxing to the hilt halts that growth.

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As Labour are now finding out with 0% growth in Q3 and most likely a negative figure for Q4. Which is quite good going considering that there Β was 1.2% growth across Q's 1 & 2.

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And for all that you write, you have no data, just specuation. Until the economic results are there, one can not claim a failureΒ  occurred.Β 

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In respect to your example from Pimlico Plumbers, the man has been whinging for years. He was so patriotic that he sold his business to USΒ  VC fund KKR sometime ago, didn't he? More recently his firmΒ  lost aΒ  key case where it tried toΒ  keep tradespeople from theirΒ  earned vacation wages.

https://www.pinsentmasons.com/out-law/news/pimlico-plumbers-loses-landmark-uk-holiday-pay-case. Hardly the type of person who can is taking care of his workers is he?

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Hmm. The Labour government is so unpopular it is leading in the latest polls!

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Opinium Con 23%
(-2)
Lab 29%
(nc)
LD 11%
(+1)
Grn 10%
(+1)
Ref 22%
(+1)
Lab lead 6% 18-20/12
GB
Techne 26%
(+1)
27%
(nc)
12%
(+1)
7%
(nc)
21%
(-1)
1% 18-19/12
GB

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https://www.markpack.org.uk/155623/voting-intention-opinion-poll-scorecard/

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Funny, how we don't hear much about that petition either any more!!Β πŸ˜…

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On 12/23/2024 at 3:03 AM, Social Media said:

β€œHe needs a lot of soothing and a lot of buoying up at the moment.”

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He needs to take some time and think about why everyone suddenly hates him.

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7 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

And for all that you write, you have no data, just specuation. Until the economic results are there, one can not claim a failureΒ  occurred.Β 

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The economic results can be seen on a daily basis, should anyone care to look

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https://assets.aseannow.com/forum/uploads/monthly_2024_12/IMG_3449.webp.49eed3ea723f34be5d1452ca18140a47.webp

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How much has the Β£ fell against the Baht since the day Labour won the GE ?
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How is the FTSE 100 today compared to the day Labour won the GE ?

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How is GDP growth since the day Labour won the GE.

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Some people just need to open their eyes, coupled with knowing where to look.

IMG_3449.webp

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1 hour ago, Patong2021 said:

The fact was that there were biological compounds intended to be used in weapons. The invasion forced the Iraqis to destroy them before the. Coalition forces arrived.

Yellow cake uranium was discovered and documented.

Iraq had a stockpile of chemical weapons and had been used against Iran and the Kurds. Yes, there had beenΒ  some destruction of the stockpiles, but IraqΒ  refused to confirm that it would no longer use them. On the contrary, the Iraqis were given to boasting of their capability to use them.

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It is easy in hindsight toΒ  condemn the conclusion that there were WMD, but it was a fair conclusion based upon the previous Iraqi use of WMD and ongoing R&D.

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You tell that to the dead servicemen's family's.

Action was taken on one operatives so called knowledge.

That was proved to be a lie.Β 

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