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28 minutes ago, snoop1130 said:

favoured tourist destination over Thailand is attributed to a weaker currency

If you are exchanging US dollars or Euros, sure. Almost cheaper than Thailand.

 

It's something that Thailand does forget. Much more tourists are attracted to places that are cheaper and offers more.

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12 hours ago, Flyguy330 said:

Just got back from a 1 week skiing holiday in Hokkaido. Great snow, great food, but very expensive and bitterly cold - as in arctic. But, it snowed every day, and that's what we went for. It's guarenteed there, unlike the Alps which have been unreliable lately. It's a place for serious skiers though. Beginners should probably avoid. Too cold.

I was there years ago.  Arrived for the first snowfall of the season.  Much too cold for me.

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"Thai tourists traveling to Japan surged to 1.3 million."  Several of our Thai friends have been there several times and plan to visit again.  They comment on how neat and organized the Japanese are.

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2 hours ago, Hawaiian said:

I was there years ago.  Arrived for the first snowfall of the season.  Much too cold for me.

Cold is one of the things that goes along with skiing. That's where good clothes come into play, along with almost constant movement. I agree that being very cold, with wind, doesn't make it as enjoyable, as I skied in New York when it was in the teens with wind and sitting on the lift going up wasn't fun.

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15 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Despite Thailand’s appeal with its natural attractions, warm hospitality, and rich culture, foreign tour operators observe a lack of new selling points.

 

Other than the lack of new selling points, none of those things exist in Thailand.

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11 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Cold is one of the things that goes along with skiing. That's where good clothes come into play, along with almost constant movement. I agree that being very cold, with wind, doesn't make it as enjoyable, as I skied in New York when it was in the teens with wind and sitting on the lift going up wasn't fun.

Not bad when you can come back indoors to a nice warm room.  I was there when there was no central heating.  Only a small electric room heater.  Besides I don't ski, although I have snowboarded back home on Mauna Kea.

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1 hour ago, NedR69 said:

Maybe Thailand should work with neighboring countries to improve the air...clean air in Thailand is nonexistent during half the year.

 

That was made clear yesterday when I flew in from Northern China.  During the notorious heating season.  From 35,000', I could take fantastic photos of the N. China landscape.  It got cloudy in the south of China, but not smoggy.  Then we entered Laos/Thai airspace and I couldn't even see the ground until we got down below 4000'.  No clouds.  Just smog.

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5 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

Not bad when you can come back indoors to a nice warm room.  I was there when there was no central heating.  Only a small electric room heater.  Besides I don't ski, although I have snowboarded back home on Mauna Kea.

I remember sitting on the lift, that had to be stopped because of the wind, thinking about jumping off, about 10 feet, until it finally got to the top, where I skied down the slope, right to the front door of the lodge, and ran to sit in front of the fireplace. All the other times it was fine there, but that wind made it so much colder.

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8 minutes ago, lordgrinz said:

 

Other than the lack of new selling points, none of those things exist in Thailand.

I've been here over 6 years, and the beach was nice, but after you've seen a few large temples and driven around a bit, it all looks the same and is very boring, especially if you choose to live in Isaan. Nothing to do besides gardening, if that's your thing. Mine are hunting and fishing. No hunting here and the fishing isn't good besides private lakes and pay to fish. It's a nice place to visit, but besides that, if you don't live near the beaches, and love that thing, it's no different than any other country place that's boring, like the US Midwest.

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2 hours ago, Hawaiian said:

I was there years ago.  Arrived for the first snowfall of the season.  Much too cold for me.

so you would prefer a warm snow season... mmm

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10 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

I've been here over 6 years, and the beach was nice, but after you've seen a few large temples and driven around a bit, it all looks the same and is very boring, especially if you choose to live in Isaan. Nothing to do besides gardening, if that's your thing. Mine are hunting and fishing. No hunting here and the fishing isn't good besides private lakes and pay to fish. It's a nice place to visit, but besides that, if you don't live near the beaches, and love that thing, it's no different than any other country place that's boring, like the US Midwest.

 

Yup, I miss living in New England, four seasons, where I can go hunting, fishing, hiking, mountain biking, camping. We even have Cape Cod or many other beaches for summer if needed, skiing opportunities, and a ton of great food (my wife especially misses her New England Lobster Rolls) Like you said, after you've seen a few large temples and other attractions, it starts to all look the same and boring. On top of that, we get to deal with non-stop traffic and people who want to kill us with their cars, motorcycles, buses, taxis. Then there is the pollution, which ruins almost any outside activities, if the scorching sun doesn't. I absolutely love to go for a drive, here I dread it, so I am in no hurry to explore much more of this cesspool.

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2 minutes ago, lordgrinz said:

 

Yup, I miss living in New England, four seasons, where I can go hunting, fishing, hiking, mountain biking, camping. We even have Cape Cod or many other beaches for summer if needed, skiing opportunities, and a ton of great food (my wife especially misses her New England Lobster Rolls) Like you said, after you've seen a few large temples and other attractions, it starts to all look the same and boring. On top of that, we get to deal with non-stop traffic and people who want to kill us with their cars, motorcycles, buses, taxis. Then there is the pollution, which ruins almost any outside activities, if the scorching sun doesn't. I absolutely love to go for a drive, here I dread it, so I am in no hurry to explore much more of this cesspool.

I was just back in Texas last month, and a soon as I got there I was home again. If I could I would be there right now but re establishing again isn't easy, and will take some time. This has never been home. I will move one last time back there, and when I'm there, can make trips hunting and fishing again anywhere I want throughout the states.

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7 minutes ago, Aussie999 said:

so you would prefer a warm snow season... mmm

Why not?  We have that in Hawaii.  Snow on Mauna Kea and Mauna Loa while it is sunny (80 to 85F) and warm at lower elevations.

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Japan has very strong border controls ... and does not allow mass cheap tourism from the likes of China, India, African continent etc 

 

THAILAND is basically the holly grail for cheap mass tourism. It's the only country in the world that allows Indians in visa free. MASS CHEAP TOURISM

 

The whole obsession in Thailand with an arbitary number of visitors is ridiculous. If USA, UK, Australia opened up to cheap mass tourism from India and China they would get millions more visitors, but they want QUALITY TOURISTS, not cheap tourists who spend nothing and do nothing but create carnage and turn away quality tourists. 

 

Thailand is a mess and awash with cheap tourists. 

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6 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

I was just back in Texas last month, and a soon as I got there I was home again. If I could I would be there right now but re establishing again isn't easy, and will take some time. This has never been home. I will move one last time back there, and when I'm there, can make trips hunting and fishing again anywhere I want throughout the states.

 

Yup, went back in April and enjoyed driving through a few different states, every road trip was a delight and not a single issue with any other drivers in the almost month long stay. The clean air, laid back atmosphere, lack of crowds, and cooler weather was intoxicating!

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26 minutes ago, Phillip9 said:

 

If you don't like the cold, go to Okinawa, the southern islands prefecture of Japan.  Good weather there in the winter and better beaches than Thailand.  Just not well known to foreigners because Japan is so big with so many other places to go, most focus on the main islands.

 

 

While part of Japan, Okinawa has its own unique cuisine and culture.  In Hawaii, people of Okinawan ancestry have their own social cliques and organizations.

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15 hours ago, sqwakvfr said:

I guess quality and safety beat cheap and easy?  Also, Japan is rather expensive and really cold for 3 to 4 months per year.  Japan is truly amazing because it can beat LOS for the number of visitors inspite of high cost and at times cold weather. 

Also, Japan like most truly modern countries have few long term visa options. I can only think of marriage to a Japanese  national, studying at an actual school and employment as long term visa options. 

 

What has a dearth of Japanese long-term visa options got to do with their burgeoning tourism?

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2 hours ago, sqwakvfr said:

Countires like Japan and S. Korea were in utter shamlbes some 80 to 70 years ago and look at the progress both have made by learning from and adopting ways introduced by other countries. 

They were in shambles because they were reduced to rubble by wars.  Both those countries have been highly educated and had rich complex cultures for thousands of years.

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