Greenland

[theblether]

1 hour ago, candide said:

China failed, as you know. Fact. The U.S., the EU, Denmark and Greenland have since defined policies and laws to prevent China from doing that again. As you know (links posted before). Fact. The China threat is already under control.

 

Once again, and you are choosing to ignore this fact, the mere fact that China attempted is the issue. 

 

Another fact. The Danes admitted they abrogated their duties in Greenland. 

 

Yet another fact. It was the previous intervention by Trump that woke everyone up. 

 

Here's the bad news for you. Denmark just said Greenlands future was a matter for Greenland. I don't expect Greenland to become an an American territory but I do expect a triangular treaty. A win for all. 

[candide]

3 hours ago, theblether said:

 

Once again, and you are choosing to ignore this fact, the mere fact that China attempted is the issue. 

 

Another fact. The Danes admitted they abrogated their duties in Greenland. 

 

Yet another fact. It was the previous intervention by Trump that woke everyone up. 

 

Here's the bad news for you. Denmark just said Greenlands future was a matter for Greenland. I don't expect Greenland to become an an American territory but I do expect a triangular treaty. A win for all. 

The problem with you is that whatever information and fact is brought to your attention, you go on like a broken report.

 

China did attempt that, I never ignored that. But it's years ago and since then ( and because of that)  policies and regulations have been implemented to avoid it happening again. I have posted links to national artic strategy of the U.S., minerals security committee jointly created by U.S. and the EU, FDI screening act of Denmark and Greenland, etc...

 

And you still go on with the same imaginary scenario. And, of course, no links to back up your claim!

 

As to Denmark, it has declared it is not opposed to Greenland's independence long before Trump started with his ridiculous statements.

 

It is absolutely not a "news" (and neither bad nor good from my perspective ). And Greenland has already presented its draft constitution for independence in February 2024 (link provided before), which has required several years to design it. It has been in the pipe for years already.

 

The U.S., , Denmark, Greenland and the EU did not wait for Trump's show to identify security and supplly issues, in particular re. China and Russia, and design solutions. They have already happily collaborated on these matters, without needing Trump's idiotic threats.

[theblether]

6 hours ago, candide said:

The problem with you is that whatever information and fact is brought to your attention, you go on like a broken report.

 

China did attempt that, I never ignored that. But it's years ago and since then ( and because of that)  policies and regulations have been implemented to avoid it happening again. I have posted links to national artic strategy of the U.S., minerals security committee jointly created by U.S. and the EU, FDI screening act of Denmark and Greenland, etc...

 

And you still go on with the same imaginary scenario. And, of course, no links to back up your claim!

 

As to Denmark, it has declared it is not opposed to Greenland's independence long before Trump started with his ridiculous statements.

 

It is absolutely not a "news" (and neither bad nor good from my perspective ). And Greenland has already presented its draft constitution for independence in February 2024 (link provided before), which has required several years to design it. It has been in the pipe for years already.

 

The U.S., , Denmark, Greenland and the EU did not wait for Trump's show to identify security and supplly issues, in particular re. China and Russia, and design solutions. They have already happily collaborated on these matters, without needing Trump's idiotic threats.

 

Utter garbage. Only the truly demented would dismiss an attempt by China to build airports in a NATO adjacent nation. 

 

And again, the Danes have admitted their abrogation of duty. Only a witless fool would describe this as "years ago." 

 

 

[Jingthing]

9 hours ago, theblether said:

 

Once again, and you are choosing to ignore this fact, the mere fact that China attempted is the issue. 

 

Another fact. The Danes admitted they abrogated their duties in Greenland. 

 

Yet another fact. It was the previous intervention by Trump that woke everyone up. 

 

Here's the bad news for you. Denmark just said Greenlands future was a matter for Greenland. I don't expect Greenland to become an an American territory but I do expect a triangular treaty. A win for all. 

Trump doesn't do wins for all.

He's wired for zero sum games.

Like this last election.

Winners -- OLIGARCHS, GLOBAL AUTOCRATS

Losers -- His maga base of marks and suckers. Global democracies.

 

Biden in his farewell speech gave voice to the reality of a dystopian Trumpist future of rule by oligarchs. But sadly of course, too little too late.

[Jingthing]

9 minutes ago, theblether said:

 

Utter garbage. Only the truly demented would dismiss an attempt by China to build airports in a NATO adjacent nation. 

 

And again, the Danes have admitted their abrogation of duty. Only a witless fool would describe this as "years ago." 

 

 

Trump's way of provoking this with threats of invasion which gives aid and comfort to Putin is not the way forward with Greenland.

Nobody is denying the geopolitical and resource potential importance of Greenland of course.

Greenland / Denmark have not been hostile to U.S. interests. How to make them hostile? Be like Trump.

[candide]

6 hours ago, theblether said:

 

Utter garbage. Only the truly demented would dismiss an attempt by China to build airports in a NATO adjacent nation. 

 

And again, the Danes have admitted their abrogation of duty. Only a witless fool would describe this as "years ago." 

 

 

Stop distorting what I wrote. I never dismissed China's attempt. My point is that it was years ago, that China failed,, and that policies and regulations have been implemented after that in order to prevent any further attempt. Facts.

 

Then you are lying again. I never used "years ago" about Denmark's statement. I only used it about China's attempt, which happened 6 years ago.

 

As to Denmark's statement, they only said they had neglected Greenland's defense, which has nothing to do with an old attempt by China to get a contract to build an airport.

 

And of course, when you have no substantiated argument, you resort to insults! 😆

[Puccini]

The European NATO members must urgently and rapidly increase their defence capabilities so that they will be able to defend Greenland against occupation and annexation by the USA or Russia.

 

For all we know, once there is a peace treaty in Ukraine, Trump may join forces with his friend Putin to occupy Greenland and share the spoils.

[Puccini]

Quote

 

Greenland^[e] is a self-governing country^[13] within the Kingdom of Denmark.

 

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenland

 

All of a sudden, fter reading some of the posts in this topic, I am unsure whether Greenland is covered by the NATO umbrella. Does anyone know for sure?

[Puccini]

A web search tells me that Finland, the latest NATO member, is covered by NATO, but do the other European NATO members agree?

 

https://www.euronews.co

m/my-europe/2025/01/23/greenland-is-covered-by-collective-security-of-nato-says-finnish-foreign-minister

[bannork]

The right message

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/danish-mp-follows-profane-message-to-trump-with-warning-to-greenlanders-on-us-civil-rights/ar-AA1xOeGG?ocid=socialshare&pc=EDGEXST&cvid=a175372a1bbb41389f31eadb2b544890&ei=11#comments

[SunnyinBangrak]

2 minutes ago, bannork said:

The right message

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/danish-mp-follows-profane-message-to-trump-with-warning-to-greenlanders-on-us-civil-rights/ar-AA1xOeGG?ocid=socialshare&pc=EDGEXST&cvid=a175372a1bbb41389f31eadb2b544890&ei=11#comments

Potty mouth comments show he is panicking. Rightly so. The Danes need to wind their necks in. Greenland as an autonomous province has the right to democratically decide whether they want to join the US and all be very rich, or continue as before.

Not sure why democratic votes like this (and Brexit) trigger the left so much? I wonder if we should use Mike Lindells new voting software to count the vote? As we know, doubting voting software is insurrection and worthy of a BILLION $ fine so nobody would question it. Happy days!!

[bannork]

4 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Potty mouth comments show he is panicking. Rightly so. The Danes need to wind their necks in. Greenland as an autonomous province has the right to democratically decide whether they want to join the US and all be very rich, or continue as before.

Not sure why democratic votes like this (and Brexit) trigger the left so much? I wonder if we should use Mike Lindells new voting software to count the vote? As we know, doubting voting software is insurrection and worthy of a BILLION $ fine so nobody would question it. Happy days!!

The democratic vote in the Presidential election in 2020 sure triggered panic with Trump. To this day, he still can't get over losing. 

[SunnyinBangrak]

3 minutes ago, bannork said:

The democratic vote in the Presidential election in 2020 sure triggered panic with Trump. To this day, he still can't get over losing. 

Nothing democratic about an inexplicable "extra" 10 million mail in ballots with no id shown. If I lost thanks to democrat shennanigans which led to over a million deaths in unneccessary wars and total destruction of democratic norms and principles I'd be a bit miffed too.

[bannork]

37 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Nothing democratic about an inexplicable "extra" 10 million mail in ballots with no id shown. If I lost thanks to democrat shennanigans which led to over a million deaths in unneccessary wars and total destruction of democratic norms and principles I'd be a bit miffed too.

Sore loser, get over it