Possibility of the Azerbaijan Airlines Embraer 190AR plane was shot down on the 25 Dec

[Rimmer]

 

On December 25, 2024, an Azerbaijan Airlines Embraer 190AR, operating as Flight 8243 from Baku to Grozny, crashed near Aktau, Kazakhstan, resulting in 38 fatalities and 29 survivors.

Reuters

 

The aircraft had diverted to Aktau due to fog in Grozny.

Wikipedia

 

Preliminary reports suggest the possibility that the plane was shot down by Russian air defenses after it deviated over an area with recent Ukrainian drone activity.

The Wall Street Journal

 

Aviation experts and a Ukrainian official have indicated that the wreckage assessments point towards this scenario.

However, Azerbaijan Airlines has attributed the crash to either a bird collision or poor weather conditions.

The exact cause remains under investigation.

 

The crash highlights the broader regional conflict's impact on commercial aviation.

The aircraft's flight path showed signs of control issues before crashing.

 

Russian SA-22 systems, often used to counter drones, might have been involved.

 

The incident has prompted an international investigation to determine the definitive cause of the crash.

 

Given the ongoing investigation and the complexities involved, it is premature to conclusively determine whether the aircraft was shot down.

 

Further analysis and official reports are necessary to establish the exact circumstances leading to this tragic event.

 

 

Inspired by the following article:

https://www.1001crash.com/index-page-description-accident-ERJ190_azerbaijan-lg-2-crash-455-azerbaijan-airlines-embraer-190ar-kazakhstan-aktau.html

[Bkk Brian]

The Russians again? 

 

Increasing speculation in Russian media that the Baku-Grozny Azerbaijan Airlines flight was shot down by Russian air defenses that mistook it for a Ukrainian drone. Footage of the damage to the fuselage.

 

 

[Will B Good]

Regardless of whether it was Russians or not....it certainly looks like it was shot down......strange looking bird strike as was intimated on another thread.

[BarBoy]

and Thailand just keeps letting these invaders and cold blooded murderers in, visa free...

 

have they no shame at all??

[Rimmer]

 

[gargamon]

So who was on the plane that Putin wanted to get rid of?

[frank83628]

3 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

The Russians again? 

 

Increasing speculation in Russian media that the Baku-Grozny Azerbaijan Airlines flight was shot down by Russian air defenses that mistook it for a Ukrainian drone. Footage of the damage to the fuselage.

 

 

Well, of course you will believe everything you are told. 

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, frank83628 said:

Well, of course you will believe everything you are told. 

I take it your English does not extend far enough to recognize what a question mark is...............

[tomazbodner]

10 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Well, of course you will believe everything you are told. 

Uff

[frank83628]

3 hours ago, BarBoy said:

and Thailand just keeps letting these invaders and cold blooded murderers in, visa free...

 

have they no shame at all??

 Do you say the as about Americans & British?

[BarBoy]

2 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

 Do you say the as about Americans & British?

That's a silly comparison if I ever heard one!

[frank83628]

13 minutes ago, BarBoy said:

That's a silly comparison if I ever heard one!

Why, everyone says Putin invaded illegally, They did the same in Afghan and Iraq, Syria, Libya and Israel have been killing and seizing land since 1947 and occupying Golan.. or do you turn a blind eye on that.  Putin bad!

[BarBoy]

4 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

everyone says Putin invaded illegally,

HE DID!

[frank83628]

10 minutes ago, BarBoy said:

HE DID!

Nice deflection. So you only focus on Russian then when the news tells you to

[Bkk Brian]

Starting to get some confirmations now.

 

https://x.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1872270340132655523

 

 

Azerbaijani government sources have exclusively confirmed to Euronews on Thursday that a Russian surface-to-air missile caused the Azerbaijan Airlines plane crash in Aktau on Wednesday.

https://www.euronews.com/2024/12/26/exclusive-preliminary-investigation-confirms-russian-missile-over-grozny-caused-aktau-cras

[2long]

Sounds like Rimmer did it!!

[scottiejohn]

49 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Putin bad!

YES!

[frank83628]

3 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

YES!

In you opinion

[frank83628]

37 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Starting to get some confirmations now.

 

https://x.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1872270340132655523

 

 

Azerbaijani government sources have exclusively confirmed to Euronews on Thursday that a Russian surface-to-air missile caused the Azerbaijan Airlines plane crash in Aktau on Wednesday.

https://www.euronews.com/2024/12/26/exclusive-preliminary-investigation-confirms-russian-missile-over-grozny-caused-aktau-cras

Reports, not confirmations. But of course for you it was Russia from the start. I've seen your Ukriane posts

[richard_smith237]

5 hours ago, BarBoy said:

and Thailand just keeps letting these invaders and cold blooded murderers in, visa free...

 

have they no shame at all??

 

Thats and incredibly dumbed down and over simplistic outlook which fails to comprehend, well, anything really.

 

Should you be held accountable for the actions of your government ???

 

 

It could be argued that those Russians who've moved to Thailand have done so because they completely disagree with the actions of their government.

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

4 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Reports, not confirmations. But of course for you it was Russia from the start. I've seen your Ukriane posts

Correct reports. Well done. This topic is not about me either or Currently about Ukraine. 

[BarBoy]

7 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

It could be argued that those Russians who've moved to Thailand have done so because they completely disagree with the actions of their government.

Untrue.

 

The Russians I have met/argued with about their ongoing illegal invasion have all been in favor of it and their supreme leader, yet they refuse to fight..

 

Cowardice of the highest order!

[GroveHillWanderer]

18 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Reports, not confirmations. But of course for you it was Russia from the start. I've seen your Ukriane posts

It is a confirmation from the Azerbaijanis. As stated in the linked article. 

 

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Azerbaijani government sources have exclusively confirmed to Euronews on Thursday that a Russian surface-to-air missile caused the Azerbaijan Airlines plane crash in Aktau on Wednesday.

 

[frank83628]

14 minutes ago, BarBoy said:

Untrue.

 

The Russians I have met/argued with about their ongoing illegal invasion have all been in favor of it and their supreme leader, yet they refuse to fight..

 

Cowardice of the highest order!

Yes, Putin has a firm supporter base despite the clucking crew here, the UK & Us are struggling for people signing up, why not volunteer yourself to any either, seeing as the Russians you've met are so cowardly, I bet you did say it out loud!

[tomazbodner]

1 hour ago, frank83628 said:

Yes, Putin has a firm supporter base despite the clucking crew here, the UK & Us are struggling for people signing up, why not volunteer yourself to any either, seeing as the Russians you've met are so cowardly, I bet you did say it out loud!

With your love of Putin, why are you not fighting for him in Ukraine?

[tomazbodner]

7 hours ago, Rimmer said:

Given the holes are bent inwards, this was not an "oxygen cylinder exploding" as first suggested, this happened outside the plane and penetrated skin from outside in. As plane didn't take off like this, one can only conclude that a missile has exploded at the back of the plane, on the right side, and that shrapnel punctured the hydraulic lines which operate elevators, leading to loss of control of the aircraft. While we obviously from this cannot conclude who shot the missile against the plane, I think the question of whether this plane was shot down can be put to rest. It was. Question now is how involved countries would react to it...

[still kicking]

3 hours ago, frank83628 said:

 Do you say the as about Americans & British?

You are a sick commie 

[frank83628]

34 minutes ago, tomazbodner said:

With your love of Putin, why are you not fighting for him in Ukraine?

I could ask the same quuestion, if you guys all hate Putin so much then why are you not fighting against him in Ukraine?

[liddelljohn]

The initial impact was at an altitude that no birds can  fly  ,, so no bird strike   ,, the initial report of reserve oxygen tank near  cockpit exploding also  incorrect  as explosion /impact in aft of aircraft , so  most likely a missile or gunfire  or bomb ???

 

Russia has previous for shooting down innocent airliners  such as MH17 in 2014,    UH72 in 2020    Siberian Air 1812  in 2001,,,  Polish presedential flight is another and there are a few more , by Russia and its proxy friends

[Phillip9]

8 hours ago, BarBoy said:

and Thailand just keeps letting these invaders and cold blooded murderers in, visa free...

 

have they no shame at all??

 

I don't think the typical Russian draft dodger living in Thailand has anything to do with this.