‘There are no trans kids’ - J.K. Rowling triggers the woke

[Red Phoenix]

Deep respect for her courageous stance against the harmful woke nonsense of trans kids.

 

 

> There is no such thing as a transgender child and no child is “born in the wrong body,” Harry Potter creator JK Rowling said.

After being accused on social media of directing a “hateful focus” toward transgender kids, Rowling responded by saying that what she is accused of isn’t possible since there is no such thing as a trans kid in the first place.

“There are no trans kids. No child is ‘born in the wrong body,’ ” Rowling wrote. “There are only adults like you, prepared to sacrifice the health of minors to bolster your belief in an ideology that will end up wreaking more harm than lobotomies and false memory syndrome combined.”

Rowling went on to blame the woke mob on social media for convincing children that they are transgender.

When one X user said that parents are to blame for transgendering of kids, Rowling responded, saying, “Kids are watching TikTok videos of surgeons selling the idea that bodies can be modified like Lego. Schools affirm kids’ trans identities behind parents’ backs. A certain kids’ charity in the UK sent out breast binders to pubescent girls without parental consent.”

“Many parents are struggling to protect kids from a Zeitgeist telling them that anxieties about puberty, sexuality and growing up can be fixed by lifelong reliance on Big Pharma and by doctors who make Frankenstein look ethical,” she added.

Rowling also noted that noted transgender medical procedures causes “infertility, the loss of the ability to orgasm and a lifetime’s reliance on powerful hormones your body wasn’t designed to cope with.”

Rowling’s position appears to have been solidified by the British national health system, which recently announced a ban on puberty blockers and other transgender procedures for minors.

 

Source: https://www.worldtribune.com/jk-rowling-triggers-the-woke-there-are-no-trans-kids/

[KhunLA]

or adults 

 

You're XX or XY when born, and that's what you be when you die.  No matter what you think or do, that is NEVER going to change.

[Elkski]

I don't think it clear cut.  Some are born hermaphrodite.  But the new term is intersex.    I had a lengthy convoy with one once.  She was quite sad the Dr chose to snip off the he part at birth. 

I'm not up on this subject.  I do have a neighbor teen that seems to have decided to be a Tom or whatever it's called in the US.  

What about the children who have one sex but in their mind feel different.  

Let people choose how they want to live I say. B

[Airalee]

6 minutes ago, Elkski said:

What about the children who have one sex but in their mind feel different.  

Perhaps they need psychiatric counseling rather than hormones and surgery.  

[KhunLA]

1 hour ago, Elkski said:

I don't think it clear cut.  Some are born hermaphrodite.  But the new term is intersex.    I had a lengthy convoy with one once.  She was quite sad the Dr chose to snip off the he part at birth. 

I'm not up on this subject.  I do have a neighbor teen that seems to have decided to be a Tom or whatever it's called in the US.  

What about the children who have one sex but in their mind feel different.  

Let people choose how they want to live I say. B

That's so rare, it's not even worth mentioning.  

 

[Yagoda]

1 hour ago, Airalee said:

Perhaps they need psychiatric counseling rather than hormones and surgery.  

Transgenderism, except in the extremely rare biological examples, is a mental illness.

[Celsius]

2 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Transgenderism, except in the extremely rare biological examples, is a mental illness.

 

It's not mental illness. They know exactly what they are doing.

[Airalee]

1 minute ago, Celsius said:

 

It's not mental illness. They know exactly what they are doing.

So it’s more of a personality disorder?  That’s even worse.

[Patong2021]

2 hours ago, KhunLA said:

or adults 

 

You're XX or XY when born, and that's what you be when you die.  No matter what you think or do, that is NEVER going to change.

Please take a  basic introductory course to human genetics. Your simplistic comment is factually incorrect.  It is apalling that you  march in so sure of yourself ready to insult and dismiss legitimate scientific fact, when you have absolutely no understanding of the basic science of sexual genetics.

 

The UK NHS has simplified the  factual evidence  and summarizes as follows;

 

Some people have XY (male) chromosomes, but their external genitals may develop in the usual way for girls or boys.  Sometimes it's difficult at first to know whether their genitals are more male or female.  A person may have a uterus, while at the same time as having testicles inside their body. Only testing can determine if the testes are functional, and it can take time to determine if the testes will develop or not.  This condition is classified as  46,XY DSD.Many people with 46,XY DSD are  appear as males with the  a partially or fulled developed urethra through or below the penis  that allows for the release of urine. For some, the scrotum appears separated into two smaller sacs, one on either side. This is termed peno-scrotal hypospadias.

 

Some people have XY chromosomes and the ignorant  assume they are male. If the body cannot or does not respond to the  andogens necessary for sexual trait expression, then the person with XY chromosome is a female. So much for your assumprion of  absolute definitions.

 

Some people have a chromosome pattern other than the usual XY or XX. They may have one X chromosome (XO), or they may have an extra chromosome (XXY). Their internal and external sex organs can be either male or female, but they may not go through a full physical development at puberty. For example, a child with female sex organs may not start having periods. This is termed sex chromosome DSD. An example is Klinefelter syndrome, which is where a boy is born with an extra X chromosome (XXY). This can mean they do not produce the usual level of testosterone, the sex hormone responsible for the development of male characteristics, such as the testes and body hair. Testosterone is also important for bone strength and fertility in men.

Another example of this type of DSD is Turner syndrome, which is where a girl is born with a missing X chromosome. Girls and women with Turner syndrome are often infertile and their height may be shorter than average.

 

Females can have genitals associated with the female sex but be born without the uterus and fallopian tubes. Some females are born with an underdeveloped womb, or missing cervix and upper vagina. The ovaries and external genitalia look the same as most girls and women and they develop breasts and pubic hair as they get older.This is called Rokitansky syndrome. It's also known as Mayer-Rokitansky-Küster-Hauser (MRKH syndrome). The cause is not clear, but girls and women with Rokitansky syndrome/MRKH have XX chromosomes.

Often the first sign of Rokitansky syndrome is that a girl does not start having periods. Sex involving the vagina may also be difficult because the vagina may be shorter than most women's.  Not having a womb means that a woman cannot become pregnant, but it's sometimes possible to take eggs from their ovaries, fertilise them, and implant them in another woman's womb (surrogacy).

 

Some people with a very rare type of DSD have both ovarian and testicular tissue (sometimes one ovary and one testis). Their genitals may appear female or male or could look different from either. Most people with this type of DSD have XX (female) chromosomes. The cause is not usually clear, but some people with the condition have been found to have genetic material that's usually seen on the Y chromosome appearing on their X chromosome. This condition is 46,XX ovotesticular DSD.

 

[Patong2021]

26 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

That's so rare, it's not even worth mentioning.  

 

 

Leave medicine and genetics to those who have an education. You are trying to apply an absolute to conditions which are often undiagnosed  / not recognized. Many countries do not accept the DSD genetic conditions, while others do not have the culture to accept the condition. The Faust Sterling estimate fo DSD was 1.7%. Others have challenged that estimat with the 0.17% or 0.18% claim. The challengers don't have the  data to fully support their claim. Much of the data is western based and does not take into account variances that may occur in populous  regions such as Asia or Latin America.

 

The current  accepted frequency of variations is as follows;

 

Not XX and not XY one in 1,666 births
Klinefelter (XXY) one in 1,000 births
Androgen insensitivity syndrome one in 13,000 births
Partial androgen insensitivity syndrome one in 130,000 births
Classical congenital adrenal hyperplasia one in 13,000 births
Late onset adrenal hyperplasia one in 66 individuals
Vaginal agenesis one in 6,000 births
Ovotestes one in 83,000 births
Idiopathic (no discernable medical cause) one in 110,000 births
Complete gonadal dysgenesis one in 150,000 births
Hypospadias (urethral opening in perineum or along penile shaft) one in 2,000 births
Hypospadias (urethral opening between corona and tip of glans penis) one in 770 births

Total number of people whose bodies differ from standard male or female one in 100 births
Total number of people receiving surgery to “normalize” genital appearance one or two in 1,000 births

Sources;

1 Dreger, Alice Domurat. 1998. Ambiguous Sex—or Ambivalent Medicine? Ethical Issues in the Treatment of Intersexuality. Hastings Center Report, 28, 3: 24-35.

2 Blackless, Melanie, Anthony Charuvastra, Amanda Derryck, Anne Fausto-Sterling, Karl Lauzanne, and Ellen Lee. 2000. How sexually dimorphic are we? Review and synthesis. __American Journal of Human Biology__ 12:151-166.

 

 

The 0.17% value relies on a very narrow interpretation of data and excludes  abnormal physiological events such as  missing or deformed or defective genitalia.

 

 

[Patong2021]

31 minutes ago, Celsius said:

 

It's not mental illness. They know exactly what they are doing.

 

So , according to you, all the people born with the medical conditions, are in fact not organically defective and their  physical conditions do not magically exist. No one is born with the  identified medical conditions and it is all self willed.  Kids are not born woithout wombs, but instead wish them aay. A "boy" born without testicles dreamed his away. 

 

In the UK there were  571,000 live births recorded in 2023. Even using the most conservative of  estimates, 1000+ people were born intersexed or having serious  sexual chromosome deficiencies that have resulted in deviant  physical development. The current guidelines estimate that we should expect 10,000 sexual physiology deviances. According to you, these 1000 to 10,000 people have imagined their physical deficiencies and it is all by intentional design.

[mokwit]

11 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 

Leave medicine and genetics to those who have an education. You are trying to apply an absolute to conditions which are often undiagnosed  / not recognized. Many countries do not accept the DSD genetic conditions, while others do not have the culture to accept the condition. The Faust Sterling estimate fo DSD was 1.7%. Others have challenged that estimat with the 0.17% or 0.18% claim. The challengers don't have the  data to fully support their claim. Much of the data is western based and does not take into account variances that may occur in populous  regions such as Asia or Latin America.

 

The current  accepted frequency of variations is as follows;

 

Not XX and not XY one in 1,666 births
Klinefelter (XXY) one in 1,000 births
Androgen insensitivity syndrome one in 13,000 births
Partial androgen insensitivity syndrome one in 130,000 births
Classical congenital adrenal hyperplasia one in 13,000 births
Late onset adrenal hyperplasia one in 66 individuals
Vaginal agenesis one in 6,000 births
Ovotestes one in 83,000 births
Idiopathic (no discernable medical cause) one in 110,000 births
Complete gonadal dysgenesis one in 150,000 births
Hypospadias (urethral opening in perineum or along penile shaft) one in 2,000 births
Hypospadias (urethral opening between corona and tip of glans penis) one in 770 births

Total number of people whose bodies differ from standard male or female one in 100 births
Total number of people receiving surgery to “normalize” genital appearance one or two in 1,000 births

Sources;

1 Dreger, Alice Domurat. 1998. Ambiguous Sex—or Ambivalent Medicine? Ethical Issues in the Treatment of Intersexuality. Hastings Center Report, 28, 3: 24-35.

2 Blackless, Melanie, Anthony Charuvastra, Amanda Derryck, Anne Fausto-Sterling, Karl Lauzanne, and Ellen Lee. 2000. How sexually dimorphic are we? Review and synthesis. __American Journal of Human Biology__ 12:151-166.

 

 

The 0.17% value relies on a very narrow interpretation of data and excludes  abnormal physiological events such as  missing or deformed or defective genitalia.

 

 

I don't think this is what the transgenderism argument is about. You are describing medical conditions that are separate from transgenderism, although a decision might be made as to the sex of a child, this is not the same as transgenderism in children.

[Celsius]

3 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 

So , according to you, all the people born with the medical conditions, are in fact not organically defective and their  physical conditions do not magically exist. No one is born with the  identified medical conditions and it is all self willed.  Kids are not born woithout wombs, but instead wish them aay. A "boy" born without testicles dreamed his away. 

 

In the UK there were  571,000 live births recorded in 2023. Even using the most conservative of  estimates, 1000+ people were born intersexed or having serious  sexual chromosome deficiencies that have resulted in deviant  physical development. The current guidelines estimate that we should expect 10,000 sexual physiology deviances. According to you, these 1000 to 10,000 people have imagined their physical deficiencies and it is all by intentional design.

 

I am talking about men who decide to play women....not the medically valid cases 

[KhunLA]

39 minutes ago, Celsius said:

I am talking about men who decide to play women....not the medically valid cases 

Or youngins, hitting puberty and realizing they may be gay or bi, need to understand that's simply as sexual preference, not a sex or gender that need meds or surgery.  Neither meds nor surgery is going to change their sex/gender, of which there are only 2.

 

That's why when you are born, they put male or female on your birth certificate.  The don't put 'unknown' or 'UP2U' 

[thaibeachlovers]

On 12/31/2024 at 2:37 PM, Elkski said:

I don't think it clear cut.  Some are born hermaphrodite.  But the new term is intersex.    I had a lengthy convoy with one once.  She was quite sad the Dr chose to snip off the he part at birth. 

I'm not up on this subject.  I do have a neighbor teen that seems to have decided to be a Tom or whatever it's called in the US.  

What about the children who have one sex but in their mind feel different.  

Let people choose how they want to live I say. B

No one is saying to deny the right to pretend that one is a different gender than born with. The problem arises when greedy Drs and big pharma collude to physically alter a child. If an adult man wants to have his willy chopped off that is up to him. Parents should not have that right.

 

Hermaphrodites are such a tiny minority they are not generally included in any discussion on trans.

[thaibeachlovers]

On 12/31/2024 at 2:45 PM, Airalee said:

Perhaps they need psychiatric counseling rather than hormones and surgery.  

No, they just need to be left alone to grow up without thinking they are a problem. IMO most would eventually accept they are whatever is between their legs.

[Airalee]

8 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

No, they just need to be left alone to grow up without thinking they are a problem. IMO most would eventually accept they are whatever is between their legs.

In a perfect world.  
 

Too many people can’t accept people for who they are.

 

I wish I had the answer…but I don’t.

[thaibeachlovers]

9 minutes ago, Airalee said:

In a perfect world.  
 

Too many people can’t accept people for who they are.

 

I wish I had the answer…but I don’t.

There are no answers IMO. We just muddle through best we can.

[Jim Blue]

On 12/31/2024 at 11:12 AM, Patong2021 said:

 

Leave medicine and genetics to those who have an education. You are trying to apply an absolute to conditions which are often undiagnosed  / not recognized. Many countries do not accept the DSD genetic conditions, while others do not have the culture to accept the condition. The Faust Sterling estimate fo DSD was 1.7%. Others have challenged that estimat with the 0.17% or 0.18% claim. The challengers don't have the  data to fully support their claim. Much of the data is western based and does not take into account variances that may occur in populous  regions such as Asia or Latin America.

 

The current  accepted frequency of variations is as follows;

 

Not XX and not XY one in 1,666 births
Klinefelter (XXY) one in 1,000 births
Androgen insensitivity syndrome one in 13,000 births
Partial androgen insensitivity syndrome one in 130,000 births
Classical congenital adrenal hyperplasia one in 13,000 births
Late onset adrenal hyperplasia one in 66 individuals
Vaginal agenesis one in 6,000 births
Ovotestes one in 83,000 births
Idiopathic (no discernable medical cause) one in 110,000 births
Complete gonadal dysgenesis one in 150,000 births
Hypospadias (urethral opening in perineum or along penile shaft) one in 2,000 births
Hypospadias (urethral opening between corona and tip of glans penis) one in 770 births

Total number of people whose bodies differ from standard male or female one in 100 births
Total number of people receiving surgery to “normalize” genital appearance one or two in 1,000 births

Sources;

1 Dreger, Alice Domurat. 1998. Ambiguous Sex—or Ambivalent Medicine? Ethical Issues in the Treatment of Intersexuality. Hastings Center Report, 28, 3: 24-35.

2 Blackless, Melanie, Anthony Charuvastra, Amanda Derryck, Anne Fausto-Sterling, Karl Lauzanne, and Ellen Lee. 2000. How sexually dimorphic are we? Review and synthesis. __American Journal of Human Biology__ 12:151-166.

 

 

The 0.17% value relies on a very narrow interpretation of data and excludes  abnormal physiological events such as  missing or deformed or defective genitalia.

 

We look forward with bated breath to your book on the subject....

 

[renaissanc]

Before Trump's election victory there were loads of woke foreigners on this Forum. They seem to have gone into hiding. Mankind is now back to two genders again, just male and female. The misguided woke folks created dozens of genders somehow. Google is still woke, I see: "There is no fixed number of genders, and gender identity is a  spectrum. Gender is about how a person identifies, not their anatomy. 

[WDSmart]

“There are no trans kids. No child is ‘born in the wrong body,’ ”  - J.K. Rowling (above)

There are no trans kids because we are not born with a sexual identity. We are taught it as we grow up, and when we reach puberty, we start feeling our own sexual tendencies.

I agree that "no child is born in the wrong body." We are all born in our own unique bodies, and as far as gender is concerned, that body could be male, female, or some mixture of those.

[KhunLA]

Kids ... there are NO trans people at all.  Nobody is transitioning from one sex to another.  At present, it is biologically impossible.

 

Pointed out for those that have had no education at all, or may be mentally unstable.

[novacova]

1 hour ago, renaissanc said:

There is no fixed number of genders, and gender identity is a  spectrum. Gender is about how a person identifies, not their anatomy. 

Google is for the dumb down and this is indicative of the incorrect information that it spreads 

[Elkski]

I feel strong lust for women who have certain physical features and mannerisms.   I believe people should have the right to enjoy lust whatever that means for them.  

[jvs]

9 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Kids ... there are NO trans people at all.  Nobody is transitioning from one sex to another.  At present, it is biologically impossible.

 

Pointed out for those that have had no education at all, or may be mentally unstable.

Maybe there are no trans people in the sense of being able to become a member of the opposite sex.

There are however people who are born physically in a man's or woman's body but who feel they are not the same sex as their body.

The genotype and phenotype are not the same.

Would you want to call these people mentally unstable?or without education?

[KhunLA]

3 minutes ago, jvs said:

Maybe there are no trans people in the sense of being able to become a member of the opposite sex.

There are however people who are born physically in a man's or woman's body but who feel they are not the same sex as their body.

The genotype and phenotype are not the same.

Would you want to call these people mentally unstable?or without education?

NO, simply gay or bi.  Quite natural and accepted in the animal / human world.

 

They're not transitioning into anything, just realize what they enjoy.

 

If they are trying to tell me, that they were born with a penis, but are now a woman, or, vise versa, then I might suggest a good shrink or tell them to invest in book on human 'biology'.