BREAKING NEWS New Orleans: Multiple people dead on Bourbon Street as 'car ploughs through crowd'

[Evil Penevil]

Some details about Shamsud Din Jabbar in the article below.  Pres. Biden said Jabbar had posted videos stating he was inspired by ISIS, but that's a long way from being a member of ISIS.  The FBI has not released details of the social media posts, nor has any other information emerged publicly to indicate Jabbar had any ties to ISIS other than a source of inspiration.

 

Army record, DUI, financial trouble: What we know about suspect in New Orleans attack

The man who the FBI says drove a truck into a crowd of revelers celebrating New Year's in the French Quarter of New Orleans on Wednesday served in the U.S. Army for over a decade before he obtained a lucrative job at a global accounting firm and encountered financial trouble.

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President Joe Biden on Wednesday said the suspect posted videos on social media shortly before the attack saying he was inspired by ISIS and had expressed "a desire to kill."

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/01/02/new-orleans-attack-suspect-shamsud-din-jabbar/77396433007/

 

 

[josephbloggs]

37 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

You obviously missed the point of my post. I know full well he was an ISIS supporter, he even published videos in the weeks before he did this attack. 

 

My point is not that, it was addressing a nonsense conspiracy theory that Neeranam was alluding to about why the US recruited him.

Interesting development in that the driver of the Cybertruck that exploded was also a US vet (or active soldier) and served in the same military base as the new Orleans guy. Both rented their cars through the same app if that is at all relevant (probably not).

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/02/cybertruck-explosion-driver-las-vegas

[Bkk Brian]

5 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

Interesting development in that the driver of the Cybertruck that exploded was also a US vet (or active soldier) and server in the same military bas as the new Orleans guy. Both rented their cars through the same app.

Yes read that but not sure how that fits in with the conspiracey post I responded to about why the US recruited him? 

[josephbloggs]

8 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Yes read that but not sure how that fits in with the conspiracey post I responded to about why the US recruited him? 

Sorry, it was just a general reply and not aimed at your post specifically.

[Evil Penevil]

2 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

Even though provoked with a sickening attack on October 7th - and a response was justified - this is clearly a genocide by any definition of the word. To argue otherwise loses you any credibility.

 

I'll flip the two final sentences back at you:  this is clearly NOT genocide by any definition of the word.  To argue otherwise means you don't understand what genocide actually involves.

 

I wrote a lengthy reply on this issue in another thread (https://aseannow.com/topic/1345458-amnesty-international-its-a-genocide-in-gaza/page/6/#findComment-19464174), complete with sources and links.  Short answer is it can't be genocide because: 1) the population of Gaza increased in 2023 and 2024, despite all the deaths from military action;  2) the number of deaths in the 15 months of the conflict represents 1% to 2% of the pre-conflict population of Gaza.  The exact percentage depends on what figures are used for the population of Gaza and whether the death toll includes combatants as well as non-combatants.  That percentage is far below the death toll in any other conflict accurately termed a genocide; and 3) Israel has no intent to eliminate the Palestinian people but only to defend Israelis against terrorist attacks.  The number of casualties is inflated by Hamas combatants hiding among civilians and using civilian facilities such as schools, hospitals, aprtment buildings, etc. for military purposes.

 

Through the years, Israel fought in several "conventional" wars, such as the Suez Crisis (October 1956); Six-Day War (June 1967); War of Attrition (1967–1970); and Yom Kippur War (October 1973).  During these conflicts, the IDF inflicted very few casualties on civilians, Palestinians or othwerwise.  Because the current conflict takes place in a densely populated urban environment, it's much more dificult for IDF to avoid civilian casualties.

 

[zmisha]

15 hours ago, Yagoda said:

This event will give legs to those of us who want to bomb Iran. End Iran, end terrorism.

Or to those who want to invade Syria where ISIS likes to fight.

[Yagoda]

4 hours ago, zmisha said:

Or to those who want to invade Syria where ISIS likes to fight.

Nobody wants to invade Syria

[Social Media]

Inflammatory troll post removed along with replies. Please do not attempt to disrupt the thread or it will be you removed next.

[Andre0720]

9 hours ago, Neeranam said:

You dodged the question and threw in an insult at the same time. 

Well appeared to me that your intent was to ask an insulting question.... Then you complain about it bouncing back to you.

And appeared to me that you dodged at an opportunity to describe how you think your question was not silly.

And it was not an insult at you. it was about the question that you asked...

[Rimmer]

An off topic baiting post has been removed.

 

[Stocky]

18 hours ago, Yagoda said:

They will do what we tell them to do

The House of Saud pay lip service, nothing more.

[JemJem]

On 1/2/2025 at 6:35 AM, Lacessit said:

This event will give legs to Trump wanting to ban Muslim immigration.

Well, I had actually thought that Trump would say some real harsh words after this terror attack, maybe also including a pledge for a 'Muslim ban'. I am still quite sure there is a high chance he is planning something like that soon after he comes to power (Would it be able to overcome legal obstacles to it, no idea, I am no expert), but his staying relatively quiet on this issue now is interesting. I wonder why. 

[bannork]

1 hour ago, JemJem said:

Well, I had actually thought that Trump would say some real harsh words after this terror attack, maybe also including a pledge for a 'Muslim ban'. I am still quite sure there is a high chance he is planning something like that soon after he comes to power (Would it be able to overcome legal obstacles to it, no idea, I am no expert), but his staying relatively quiet on this issue now is interesting. I wonder why. 

He's probably wondering how to include a 'Green Beret' ban following the car explosion outside the Trump hotel in Vegas 

[Neeranam]

On 1/3/2025 at 6:10 PM, JemJem said:

Well, I had actually thought that Trump would say some real harsh words after this terror attack, maybe also including a pledge for a 'Muslim ban'. I am still quite sure there is a high chance he is planning something like that soon after he comes to power (Would it be able to overcome legal obstacles to it, no idea, I am no expert), but his staying relatively quiet on this issue now is interesting. I wonder why. 

Perhaps wiser to have  Catholic ban as they commit most of the crime by a huge factor. 

 

Why on Earth would Trump ban Muslims when studies by the Pew Research Center estimated that approximately 83% of undocumented immigrants in the U.S. identified as Christian, with a significant portion being Catholic, whereas only about 4% of undocumented immigrants identified as Muslim.

 

https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2013/05/17/the-religious-affiliation-of-us-immigrants/

 

I think most Americans are brainwashed into thinking Muslims are bad, by the US government trying to justify what they have done to Middle Eastern nations over the last few decades. 

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 The Cato Institute's research on the relation between immigration status and the propensity to commit crimes concluded that native born Americans were more likely to commit crimes than undocumented aliens. Score one for the Cato Institute.

[BritManToo]

8 hours ago, placeholder said:

 The Cato Institute's research on the relation between immigration status and the propensity to commit crimes concluded that native born Americans were more likely to commit crimes than undocumented aliens. Score one for the Cato Institute.

How could they count the crimes of an undocumented alien?

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44 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

How could they count the crimes of an undocumented alien?

https://www.cato.org/blog/new-cato-research-shows-illegal-immigrants-are-less-likely-be-convicted-murder-texas

[Bkk Brian]

Out of all the horrific deaths by this Islamic extremist, its also now become personal for the British Royal Family:

 

William and Kate release statement after death of his ex-nanny's stepson in New Orleans attack

The Prince of Wales said: "Catherine and I have been shocked and saddened by the tragic death of Ed Pettifer.

"Our thoughts and prayers remain with the Pettifer family and all those innocent people who have been tragically impacted by this horrific attack."

https://news.sky.com/story/king-deeply-saddened-by-death-of-briton-in-new-orleans-attack-as-reports-say-victim-is-stepson-of-ex-royal-nanny-13283442

 

Charles was deeply saddened after being made aware of Edward Pettifer’s death through official channels and has been in touch with the family to share personal condolences, a Buckingham Palace source said.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/new-orleans-attack-royal-family-edward-pettifer-nanny-prince-william-rcna186231

 

 

 

 

[Hawaiian]

9 hours ago, placeholder said:

 The Cato Institute's research on the relation between immigration status and the propensity to commit crimes concluded that native born Americans were more likely to commit crimes than undocumented aliens. Score one for the Cato Institute.

As far as I am concerned, we have enough homegrown criminals, so we don't need to "import" any more.

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28 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

As far as I am concerned, we have enough homegrown criminals, so we don't need to "import" any more.

Somebody needs a math refresher. And your argument just is just so dumb Since it would apply to all immigrants.

[Hawaiian]

38 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Somebody needs a math refresher. And your argument just is just so dumb Since it would apply to all immigrants.

You were comparing  native born Americans to undocumented aliens, so I thought you would understand my use of word "import" was a polite way of saying coming in illegally.  I see I thought wrong.

I have never, ever said I was against anyone coming here with the proper documentation.  I have personally sponsored four individuals that have not run afoul of the law while in this country.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

You were referring to illegals, so I thought you would understand my use of word "import" was a polite way of saying coming in illegally.  I see I thought wrong.

I have never, ever said I was against anyone coming here with the proper documentation.  I have personally sponsored four individuals that have not run afoul of the law while in this country.

 

 

So let me get this straight. If a legal immigrant commits a crime that's a consequence you prepare to live with. But if it's an illegal immigrant, that's unacceptable. Because it makes a difference to the victim of the crime if the criminal was legal or illegal?

[Hawaiian]

3 minutes ago, placeholder said:

So let me get this straight. If a legal immigrant commits a crime that's a consequence you prepare to live with. But if it's an illegal immigrant, that's unacceptable. Because it makes a difference to the victim of the crime if the criminal was legal or illegal?

No, that is not what I am implying.  That's your conclusion.