Elon Musk Advocates for Tommy Robinson’s Release Amid Criticism of UK Leadership

[Nick Carter icp]

2 hours ago, Kinok Farang said:

Shouldn't that be "Nigel and I"?

 

    I'm working class , that's how we say it at street level 

[baansgr]

7 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

 

He pleaded guilty to two counts of conspiring with others to obtain a mortgage by misrepresentation from the Abbey and Halifax banks. The fact of the matter is that he committed criminal fraud and it was for personal profit. You are excusing his criminal fraud.

 

And once again, you are assuming he told and showed the truth. Have your read the trial transcript. His claims were exposed as fabrications, as lies.  He is nothing but a n instigator , a football hooligan lowlife. It is rather incredible that you call me a fascist nazi and then tell me to go and crawl udner a left nazi rock, all because I believe in upholding the law. You have been played. He conned you and you are looking for an excuse to justify your own bias. The man is common street scum who was caught lying.

Millions of self cert mortgages were taken out and he is the only one they prosecute... witnesses and victims alike have given statements on camera the crimes committed and shown by him...I think you are the one that has been conned.... 

[baansgr]

7 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

 

He pleaded guilty to two counts of conspiring with others to obtain a mortgage by misrepresentation from the Abbey and Halifax banks. The fact of the matter is that he committed criminal fraud and it was for personal profit. You are excusing his criminal fraud.

 

And once again, you are assuming he told and showed the truth. Have your read the trial transcript. His claims were exposed as fabrications, as lies.  He is nothing but a n instigator , a football hooligan lowlife. It is rather incredible that you call me a fascist nazi and then tell me to go and crawl udner a left nazi rock, all because I believe in upholding the law. You have been played. He conned you and you are looking for an excuse to justify your own bias. The man is common street scum who was caught lying.

Look up the meaning of fascist and Nazi....they can be both left or right wing 👍 

[Patong2021]

6 hours ago, baansgr said:

Look up the meaning of fascist and Nazi....they can be both left or right wing 👍 

 

None of  which has any relevance. You have accepted his lies as being the gospel truth. Why are you afraid to read the court transcripts and to see how his lies fell apart upon exam? Is it because you really don't care about the lies but see him as a  convenient vehicle by which you can express your political views? If so, just say that.

[Kinok Farang]

16 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

    I'm working class , that's how we say it at street level 

That's ok,even though i'm extremely posh,i have one or two working class chums.

[Nick Carter icp]

24 minutes ago, Kinok Farang said:

That's ok,even though i'm extremely posh,i have one or two working class chums.

 

Off topic, deleted 

[Nick Carter icp]

17 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

 

He pleaded guilty to two counts of conspiring with others to obtain a mortgage by misrepresentation from the Abbey and Halifax banks. The fact of the matter is that he committed criminal fraud and it was for personal profit.

 

   What he did was similar to the ex-pats in Thailand who used to falsely claim that they had a certain income to get a retirement visa in Thailand. 

   Getting a letter from their Embassy whilst not actually receiving said money 

[Nick Carter icp]

18 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

 

He pleaded guilty to two counts of conspiring with others to obtain a mortgage by misrepresentation from the Abbey and Halifax banks. The fact of the matter is that he committed criminal fraud and it was for personal profit. You are excusing his criminal fraud.

 

 

   You are being rather deceptive yourself , trying to make it appear that he stole from a bank .

   He did no such thing .

Tommy introduced some working people to an mortgage broker , and some fake payslips were used in order to obtain the mortgage .

   The received mortgage money was then paid back to the bank in the normal way .

   No one intended to steal any money from any bank , they just used fake payslips to get a mortgage and then pay the mortgage back monthly, like everyone else does .

   Helping poorer people buy a property

[James105]

5 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

 

None of  which has any relevance. You have accepted his lies as being the gospel truth. Why are you afraid to read the court transcripts and to see how his lies fell apart upon exam? Is it because you really don't care about the lies but see him as a  convenient vehicle by which you can express your political views? If so, just say that.

 

So despite being lied to by the establishment countless times in your life, on this occasion you think that the establishment is telling you the truth?  The left continue to be a fascinating case study in how easily people are able to be manipulated by the state.  You make a good prole, keep up the good work.   

[baansgr]

6 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

 

None of  which has any relevance. You have accepted his lies as being the gospel truth. Why are you afraid to read the court transcripts and to see how his lies fell apart upon exam? Is it because you really don't care about the lies but see him as a  convenient vehicle by which you can express your political views? If so, just say that.

You are the one that made it relevant, more deflection from the real issue. Some people just don't get it, continue following the same old spiel that MSN continue to feed you.

[baansgr]

On 1/4/2025 at 1:33 PM, Chomper Higgot said:

Nothing wrong with me referring to his real name, the one he gives in his many criminal trials when asked under oath to state his name.

 

 

And the nigerian in charge of the tories is using a false name also 

[josephbloggs]

2 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   You are being rather deceptive yourself , trying to make it appear that he stole from a bank .

   He did no such thing .

Tommy introduced some working people to an mortgage broker , and some fake payslips were used in order to obtain the mortgage .

   The received mortgage money was then paid back to the bank in the normal way .

   No one intended to steal any money from any bank , they just used fake payslips to get a mortgage and then pay the mortgage back monthly, like everyone else does .

   Helping poorer people buy a property

Ah, so you mean he is like Robin Hood! Good old Tommy, helping the children (although not those that were abused by white people or his friends) and now helping the poor obtain mortgages! He's a hero!

[Nick Carter icp]

10 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

Ah, so you mean he is like Robin Hood! Good old Tommy, helping the children (although not those that were abused by white people or his friends) and now helping the poor obtain mortgages! He's a hero!

 

   I wouldn't go that far , I was pointing out that his "crime" was to help a person get documents to get a legitimate mortgage .

   Same as any felang  in Thailand suggesting an agent to get a retirement visa without the documents and all those involved getting jailed for a year

[Patong2021]

3 hours ago, James105 said:

 

So despite being lied to by the establishment countless times in your life, on this occasion you think that the establishment is telling you the truth?  The left continue to be a fascinating case study in how easily people are able to be manipulated by the state.  You make a good prole, keep up the good work.   

 

This isn't the establishment lying. Rather, it was Lennon's lies unraveling under questioning. He could not support his claims.

[Patong2021]

5 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   You are being rather deceptive yourself , trying to make it appear that he stole from a bank .

   He did no such thing .

Tommy introduced some working people to an mortgage broker , and some fake payslips were used in order to obtain the mortgage .

   The received mortgage money was then paid back to the bank in the normal way .

   No one intended to steal any money from any bank , they just used fake payslips to get a mortgage and then pay the mortgage back monthly, like everyone else does .

   Helping poorer people buy a property

 

No, the deception is the wilful  ignoring of the reason why there was a  financial fraud to begin with.  Lennon didn't just introduce the people to a mortgage  broker, he was shown to have been an "architect" of a series of crimes of which the mortgage fraud was just one of a series of connected crimes. His fraud was related to an attempt to launder funds obtained rom criminal activity. That is why Lennon the convicted cocaine trafficker, was charged with 5 others on 3 charges of fraud, that amounted to £640,000.  The 6 miscreants were also charged with money-laundering and possession of drugs with intent to supply, or did you miss that too?  He benefited from a plea bargain which saw him plead guilty to 2 fraud charges. 

 

It boggles the mind why people are defending a violent, manipulative, serial liar with a history of violent and hate related crimes, all because he serves as a convenient means of lashing out at a certain ethnic groups. If people are opposed to Pakistani and Bengalis in the UK, just say that. I have no hesitation in expressing my disdain for the islamic fundamentalists and the threat they present. I don't need to hide behind the actions of an anti social misfit because  all he does is undermine the genuine concerns that do exist. Even Farage knows that. Tommy your hero, is corrupt to the bone.

[Nick Carter icp]

5 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 

. Tommy your hero, is corrupt to the bone.

 

   Could you retract that claim ?

Tommy isnt my hero .

I cannot continue the discussion with you until that claim is retracted .

Continuing the discussion would seem that Tommy is my hero .

So, could you remove that bit ?

[jayboy]

On 1/3/2025 at 10:19 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

I use Yaxley Lennon’s real name, the one he states when arraigned in court and the name stated in the Judicial records.

 

Nothing at all to with your transgender fixation.

 

https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/Yaxley-Lennon-Summary-of-reasons-contempt-of-court-sanction.pdf

 

The issue is raping gangs not Tommy Robinson.It has become normal for the usual suspects to seize on Robinson's many shortcomings to deflect from the mass sexual abuse of girls  on an industrial scale by a particular ethnicity in Northern and Midlands towns.The Jay Report of 2022 made a number of recommendations which have not been properly implemented by either the Tories or Labour.As for Robinson he was indeed one of the earliest to warn of the scandal but he is however a deeply flawed individual, and his present prison sentence is nothing to do with whistle blowing.

 

For those that are interested Douglas Murray sums up and gives context.The usual suspects will however just stick their fingers in their ears and label Murray as an extremist.

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

3 minutes ago, jayboy said:

 

The issue is raping gangs not Tommy Robinson.It has become normal for the usual suspects to seize on Robinson's many shortcomings to deflect from the mass sexual abuse of girls  on an industrial scale by a particular ethnicity in Northern and Midlands towns.The Jay Report of 2022 made a number of recommendations which have not been properly implemented by either the Tories or Labour.As for Robinson he was indeed one of the earliest to warn of the scandal but he is however a deeply flawed individual, and his present prison sentence is nothing to do with whistle blowing.

 

For those that are interested Douglas Murray sums up and gives context.The usual suspects will however just stick their fingers in their ears and label Murray as an extremist.

 

 

Actually the issue is:

 

“Elon Musk Advocates for Tommy Robinson’s Release Amid Criticism of UK Leadership”

 

You’ll find it mentioned at the top of the thread.

[Nick Carter icp]

13 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

That is why Lennon the convicted cocaine trafficker,

 

 

   That is untrue . 

A lie

 

  

13 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 

was charged with 5 others on 3 charges of fraud, that amounted to £640,000. 

 

You continue with this dishonestly and  fabrication .

£640,000 was the mortgage money used to buy a house and the money was paid back to the bank .

   £640,000 was received frequently because they used fake payslips , but the mortgage money was paid back, it was always their intention to pay the money back

[jayboy]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Actually the issue is:

 

“Elon Musk Advocates for Tommy Robinson’s Release Amid Criticism of UK Leadership”

 

You’ll find it mentioned at the top of the thread.

 

And so it goes on, the instant attempt at deflection.These people will always try to find a way to avoid the issue, namely industrial scale abuse and rape mainly by people of Pakistani ethnicity.The deniers tend to be insignificant and intellectually under powered, and one need not pay too much attention to them.One must be less forgiving of cowardly politicians, while recognizing the bravery of a few.So the issue festers and poisons British politics allowing (in my view) an ugly right wing movement to have a chance of power.

[Chomper Higgot]

3 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   That is untrue . 

A lie

 

  

 

You continue with this dishonestly and  fabrication .

£640,000 was the mortgage money used to buy a house and the money was paid back to the bank .

   £640,000 was received frequently because they used fake payslips , but the mortgage money was paid back, it was always their intention to pay the money back

The basis of the fraud conviction was fraudulent statements.

 

Next time you take out a loan read the text in the warning right above where your signature goes.

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, jayboy said:

 

And so it goes on, the instant attempt at deflection.These people will always try to find a way to avoid the issue, namely industrial scale abuse and rape mainly by people of Pakistani ethnicity.The deniers tend to be insignificant and intellectually under powered, and one need not pay too much attention to them.One must be less forgiving of cowardly politicians, while recognizing the bravery of a few.So the issue festers and poisons British politics allowing (in my view) an ugly right wing movement to have a chance of power.

It’s not a deflection, it’s reminding you what the topic of discussion actually is.

 

I even quoted the title of the thread.

 

[Bkk Brian]

8 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s not a deflection, it’s reminding you what the topic of discussion actually is.

 

I even quoted the title of the thread.

 

I suggest you read the OP to see how broad the topic is instead of deflecting

[Bkk Brian]

11 minutes ago, jayboy said:

 

And so it goes on, the instant attempt at deflection.These people will always try to find a way to avoid the issue, namely industrial scale abuse and rape mainly by people of Pakistani ethnicity.The deniers tend to be insignificant and intellectually under powered, and one need not pay too much attention to them.One must be less forgiving of cowardly politicians, while recognizing the bravery of a few.So the issue festers and poisons British politics allowing (in my view) an ugly right wing movement to have a chance of power.

Great post and unfortunately 100% accurate imo

[Chomper Higgot]

Yaxley-Lennon will be released from prison once he’s served his sentence.

 

It’s then a fair bet that before too long  his recidivism will get the better of him and he’ll wind up behind bars again.

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

12 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Yaxley-Lennon will be released from prison once he’s served his sentence.

 

It’s then a fair bet that before too long  his recidivism will get the better of him and he’ll wind up behind bars again.

 

 

So desperate to deflect that the crystall ball has to comes out.

[jayboy]

20 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s not a deflection, it’s reminding you what the topic of discussion actually is.

 

I even quoted the title of the thread.

 

And so it goes on

[Stiddle Mump]

Alex Belfield got 5 and a half years for opposing the BBC.

 

Two tier system.

[Nick Carter icp]

52 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The basis of the fraud conviction was fraudulent statements.

 

Next time you take out a loan read the text in the warning right above where your signature goes.

 

 

 

   I was pointing out that no money was either stolen or was intended to be stolen .

 The post  was written to make it appear that Tommy stole money from a bank , but all he did was to put a friend in contact with a dodgy mortgage broker

[Patong2021]

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   That is untrue . 

A lie

 

  

 

You continue with this dishonestly and  fabrication .

£640,000 was the mortgage money used to buy a house and the money was paid back to the bank .

   £640,000 was received frequently because they used fake payslips , but the mortgage money was paid back, it was always their intention to pay the money back

 

You are  not making progress. One of the  most common excuses criminals offer when caught in fraud is that they were going to pay the money back. I will make is very simple for you.

True or false;

 

1. Lennon  was charged with money laundering, and possession  of restricted drugs with the intent to distribute at the same time as he was charged with the financial fraud.

 

2. Lennon was convicted in 2014 of possessing cocaine with the intent  to distribute, making him a cocaine trafficker. (THis was not a one off event as he is on record of boasting of his  ability to "score".

 

3. The claims he made about the 15 year old boy with the broken arm were not supported in court. However, he was  jailed because he violated the court order not to repeat the lies 10 separate times.

 

For your reference, the fraud charges  were in respect to 3 separate mortgage  transactions for a total of 640,000 pounds. He  engineered and organized a scheme upon which  money from the proceeds of crime would be invested in real estate. He pleaded guilty in a plea deal. As part of the agreement he admitted his wrongdoing. 

 

The issue of muslim related grooming gangs is separate and distinct from this man. He has fixated upon them in an attempt to rehabilitate his image to gain public attention. He is a manipulative conman and is a vile gutter dweller given to a lifetime of crime. Your attempt to excuse his long list of crimes defies logic.  If he is not your hero, why then the steadfast  defense of a common criminal?

 

I see that Elon Musk has turned on Nigel Farage for sticking to his principles and not  joining the braying bigots who are trying to repackage Lennon as a patriot.