Biden Approves $8 Billion Arms Sale to Israel

[Yagoda]

30 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

The US taxpayer pay for it and then it gets spent making a select few rich Americans richer.

The kids slowing dying under the rubble are of no consequence.

Nope. Dont start wars using your kids as weapons.

[novacova]

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   The suggestion seemed to be that some American people are receiving some of the Israel aid money, like a bribe or some kickback , rather than people receiving salaries for working in the arms industry

The US congress in a sense a big whorehouse screwing over the American taxpayer in a MIC money laundering scheme. The Pentagon in a sense is owned by the MIC, whose board members much is of ex high ranking military brass and ex Pentagon officials. Billions pass through the Pentagon to the MIC without any oversight or accountability. Also members of congress have insight into and are privy how some, not all the money is appropriated and invested accordingly. The system is corrupted through and through. And the public is left with distractions of propaganda designed to cause social and political chaos on the surface in order to keep the masses in doubt confused and in disbelief. So, personally from this perspective, it’s probably a good idea to take a few steps back and observe the tide and view how things roll before deciding on and biting the bait that is publicized in the media because 99.9% is complete bs in a obfuscatory way. The media anymore exists to dumb down the masses.

[jippytum]

1 hour ago, newbee2022 said:

Who welcome the murders? Who welcome this genocide? Tell me

people who oppose Hamas and terrorism 

[newbee2022]

1 minute ago, jippytum said:

people who oppose Hamas and terrorism 

...and who should that be ???

[jippytum]

1 hour ago, newbee2022 said:

Every time the same wrong tale. There are terrorists, indeed. But as a reply to murder more than 40.000 Palestinians? That's clearly a genocide. Stated by ICC in LaHague.

It's high time to stop supporting Israel. 

Rubbish time to contiue to support the demise of Hamas. They started the conflict and broke the ceasefire in an act of terrorism

[newbee2022]

2 minutes ago, jippytum said:

Rubbish time to contiue to support the demise of Hamas. They started the conflict and broke the ceasefire in an act of terrorism

I see, gaslighting is working on you.

[billd766]

3 hours ago, Woke to Sounds of Horking said:

Mr Turmp is a great friend to Israel.

 

When you're surrounded by those who want to kill you what are you supposed to do?

 

Do you turn the other cheek or do you fight back?

And what are you supposed to do when a country attacks and invades your country?

 

Do you turn the other cheek or do you fight back?

 

Israel has not only invaded Gaza, the West Bank, Lebanon, Iran and now Syria.

[jippytum]

5 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

I see, gaslighting is working on you.

Truth and common sense are not working for you. 

[newbee2022]

6 minutes ago, jippytum said:

Truth and common sense are not working for you. 

Well, you rely on Truth Social, I see.

[Evil Penevil]

4 hours ago, NorthernRyland said:

8 billion dollars which Americans in need could have used given to a Polish Jew so he can kill Arabs in the middle east. 

If you are referring to Benjamin Netanyahu, he was born in Tel Aviv in 1949, after the establsihment of the state of Israel. His mother had been born  near Tel Aviv in 1912 when the area belonged to the Ottoman Empire. Some of his mother's relatives had lived in what would become Israel since the 1870s.  His father had been born in Warsaw in 1910, but immigrated  at the age of 10 with his family to Mandatory Palestine in1920.

 

To call Netnyahu a "Polish Jew" is absurd.  The Polish government wouldn't recognize him as a citizen. Under Polish law, Netanyahu is not entitled to  Polish citizenship because his father was born in Warsaw  over 100 years ago and lived there for 10 years as a child.

 

@NorthernRyland  Would you say former President Barack Obama is Kenyan because his father was born in Kenya?  Was the most famous Palestian leader actually Egyptian because Yasser Arafat was born in Cairo?

[Nick Carter icp]

2 hours ago, billd766 said:

And what are you supposed to do when a country attacks and invades your country?

 

Do you turn the other cheek or do you fight back?

 

 

   Palestine invaded Israel  on Oct 7 th .

So what is Israel supposed to do when Palestine invades its Country ?

Turn the other cheek or fight back ?

[Nick Carter icp]

3 hours ago, mokwit said:

Apparently Israels "buffer zone" in Syria has "coincidentally" captured a large part of the water supply in Syria.

 

  Can you provide some evidence of that ?

[Patong2021]

6 hours ago, NorthernRyland said:

8 billion dollars which Americans in need could have used given to a Polish Jew so he can kill Arabs in the middle east. Sadly Trump is another zionist shill and his family is intermarried with Jewish families so this will continue over the next 4 years I'm sure.

 

Tell us that you have a thing against jews without having the courage or honesty to come right out and say that.

 

Israel is not a "polish" jew.  The arms sale has been in the  planning and approval stage for over a year and is between  Israel and multiple US arms manufacturers. It is not with a "polish jew" as you have so hatefully termed it. 

The term jew originates  from the word Judea, which was a distinct nation state  dating back before there were Arab or European occupiers of the land.  If you are trying to take a swipe at Netanyahu, he was born in Tel Aviv. His mother comes from long term Judean  stock, back when  it was occupied by  the Turkish colonial regime. Yes, his father emigrated from Europe. So what? Do you call the children of German and Scottish immigrants like Trump something other than American, or  the offspring of  Jamaican immigrants like General Colin Powell Jamaican Methodists?  Your statement is bigoted and hateful.

 

Israel has used munitions to defend itself. Because of the Israeli disruption of Hezbollah, Syria has been liberated.  Because of Israels  brilliant and quick action,  terrorist  groups have been unable to access the Syrian stockpile of weapons. Because of Israel, the Gulf Arabs are  less at risk to Iranian expansionism. Would you rather the Syrian torture prisons have continued? Why no concern  when SYria, Russia, Iran and Hezbollah were  killing 500,000+ Syrians?  A vast network of missile launch sites was identified in Southern Lebanon, with some Hezbollah attack bases being located under UN  "peace keeping" positions. Israel has released  a documentation of the Iranian weapons supply facility in Iran from which Iranian  backed personnel were to attack Israel. If "Arabs" are part of that aggressor, then yes, they should expect to die when Israel defends itself.

 

You don't like the fact that  President Trump has a jewish son in law.  Not a word  of concern from you that Trump's other daughter is married to an Arab from Lagos, Nigeria?   The  man's father Massad  was one of the major supporters of the lebanese community in Nigeria. Why the double standard? Do you hate jews that much? Wait until you learn that his brother Fares is a very proud Nigerian and a hip hop musician.

[mokwit]

14 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  Can you provide some evidence of that ?

Wiki.

 

The Syrian banks of the Yarmuk on the border, as well as the Syrian half of the dam, were captured by the Israel Defense Forces on 17 December 2024 during their invasion into Syria.^[6] "Israel took control of the Al-Wahda Dam on the Yarmouk river reservoir near the town of Al-Qusayr in Syria’s Daraa Governorate on the border with the Kingdom of Jordan, which provides for approximately 30% of Syria’s fresh water supply, and 40% of the fresh water supply of Jordan", reported Israeli journalist Amir Tsarfati.^[7]

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Wehda_Dam

You can superimpose the location dam from this

 

with Israeli territory here.

https://tsionizm.com/news/2024/12/18/israeli-invasion-of-syria-map-update/

 

Jewish source:

https://www.jfeed.com/news-israel/son5ct

 

While I'm here:

https://tsionizm.com/analysis/2024/12/09/greater-israel-is-being-born/

 

Couple of points on replying to you:

1) I have previously made serious points and you have commented facetiously on them so I don't feel under any obligation to reply to you. You also made a facetious comment on another members post where he expressed concern regarding murder of civilians. Your (and others) aggressive 'Israel can do no wrong' bias is obvious. It is pointless engaging with you other than to educate other members.

2) Not every source I am looking at is mainstream media, which is censored/controlled/biased in many Western countries - it might be phone camera film on X - particularly with atrocities.

 

[rvdk]

7 hours ago, jippytum said:

And the terrorists that invaded Israel are not?? 

I am talking about the people of Gaza, not the terrorists. The normal citizens need help and quickly. Imagine you live as a normal person amongst terrorists, would you talk like this? 

[Nick Carter icp]

2 hours ago, mokwit said:

Wiki.

 

The Syrian banks of the Yarmuk on the border, as well as the Syrian half of the dam, were captured by the Israel Defense Forces on 17 December 2024 during their invasion into Syria.^[6] "Israel took control of the Al-Wahda Dam on the Yarmouk river reservoir near the town of Al-Qusayr in Syria’s Daraa Governorate on the border with the Kingdom of Jordan, which provides for approximately 30% of Syria’s fresh water supply, and 40% of the fresh water supply of Jordan", reported Israeli journalist Amir Tsarfati.^[7]

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Wehda_Dam

You can superimpose the location dam from this

 

with Israeli territory here.

https://tsionizm.com/news/2024/12/18/israeli-invasion-of-syria-map-update/

 

Jewish source:

https://www.jfeed.com/news-israel/son5ct

 

While I'm here:

https://tsionizm.com/analysis/2024/12/09/greater-israel-is-being-born/

 

Couple of points on replying to you:

1) I have previously made serious points and you have commented facetiously on them so I don't feel under any obligation to reply to you. You also made a facetious comment on another members post where he expressed concern regarding murder of civilians. Your (and others) aggressive 'Israel can do no wrong' bias is obvious. It is pointless engaging with you other than to educate other members.

2) Not every source I am looking at is mainstream media, which is censored/controlled/biased in many Western countries - it might be phone camera film on X - particularly with atrocities.

 

 

   You are just celebrating because you were able to back  up your claims for once .

   You guys often make wild claims and then run off when asked to back them up. 

   Thanks for the link , see, its not difficult to back up your claims, now is it 

  

[Nick Carter icp]

26 minutes ago, rvdk said:

I am talking about the people of Gaza, not the terrorists. The normal citizens need help and quickly. Imagine you live as a normal person amongst terrorists, would you talk like this? 

 

   Palestinians elected the terrorists, let them deal with it themselves .

They can over thrown Hamas if they want 

[mokwit]

49 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   You are just celebrating because you were able to back  up your claims for once .

   You guys often make wild claims and then run off when asked to back them up. 

   Thanks for the link , see, its not difficult to back up your claims, now is it 

  

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-e&q=Is+al+wahda+dam+now+controlled+by+Israel

 

You could have googled it yourself, but I bet you weren't expecting it to be in the public domain, were you? The lack of Western MSM coverage is striking, only celebratory Jewish sources. 2 pages on Google and I can't see the usual 'approved source' names, why is that?

 

I can back up many claims to my own satisfaction but anything other than from a narrow range of approved sources is not accepted here. I came across it in my X feed from someone I regard as reliable. So you are right, I can't always back up my sources, but that is not because what I am saying is untrue. It is pretty obvious from some atrocity footage who is committing the atrocity and who is the victim. It was all over X, but that has recently been censored, so even Israeli soldiers posting what a fun time they are having in the 2nd Nakba is being removed.

 

I posted it not for your benefit, but so that others can see what Israel is really doing. We are being asked to believe in another post here (not you) that Israels actions were some kind of humanitarian aid to neigbouring countries rather than seizing control of water resources.

[Social Media]

Off topic troll post & bickering removed. Please read it again if you're losing focus, it is not about the bible in a speech from 2023 by Netanyahu

[Nick Carter icp]

2 minutes ago, mokwit said:

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-e&q=Is+al+wahda+dam+now+controlled+by+Israel

 

You could have googled it yourself, but I bet you weren't expecting it to be in the public domain, were you. The lack of Western MSM coverage is striking, only celebratory Jewish sources. 2 pages on Google and I can't see the usual 'approved source' names, why is that?

 

I can back up many claims to my own satisfaction but anything other than from a narrow range of approved sources is not accepted here. I came across it in my X feed from someone I regard as reliable. So you are right, I can't always back up my sources, but that is not because what I am saying is untrue. It is pretty obvious from some atrocity footage who is committing the atrocity and who is the victim. It was all over X, but that has recently been censored, so even Israeli soldiers posting what a fun time they are having in the 2nd Nakba is being removed.

 

I posted it not for your benefit, but so that others can see what Israel is really doing. We are being asked to believe in another post here (not you) that Israels actions were some kind of humanitarian aid to neigbouring countries rather than seizing control of water resources.

 

   Israel secured some land on its border which included a dam , a dam which three countries relied on for water .

   The land was lawless at the time and a new rebel group had taken over from Assad .

   The intentions of the new rebel group/Government are not know .

It is a wise move by the Israelis to secure that land and the dam , as the dam wasn't being guarded , some group may have decided to wreak havoc and destroy the dam and caused water shortages in the region .

   Israel controlling a small bit of land with a dam on it isn't really a newsworthy story , it is rather insignificant and that's why it hasn't received much media coverage .

   The USA giving Israel money is helping Israel keep the dam secure , Israel are keeping the dam safe, safe from attack from rogue groups

[mokwit]

11 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 Israel secured some land on its border which included a dam , a dam which three countries relied on for water .

it included 'a dam', the land 'secured' just happened to include 'a dam' Israel previously did not have access to water from which provides for approximately 30% of Syria’s fresh water supply, and 40% of the fresh water supply of Jordan. So why were they so concerned? They also seized some heights that would be militarily useful - what was the benevolent thinking behind that?

 

GroK:

Israel did not previously have access to water from the Al-Wahda Dam, which is a joint dam between Syria and Jordan. However, recent reports indicate that Israel has taken control of the dam. According to information from December 2024, Israeli forces seized the Al-Wahda Dam as part of military operations in southern Syria, thereby gaining control over this water resource.

 

People can judge for themselves which is the most likely explanation as to why Israel now controls the Al-Wahda Dam.

 

Anyway, posting here is like trying to engage with one hand tied behind my back, I would probably be better off posting more on X where 600 million people worldwide can potentially see my posts, rather than a handful of retirees and Teachers.

[Bkk Brian]

4 minutes ago, mokwit said:

it included 'a dam', the land 'secured' just happened to include 'a dam' Israel previously did not have access to water from which provides for approximately 30% of Syria’s fresh water supply, and 40% of the fresh water supply of Jordan. So why were they so concerned? They also seized some heights that would be militarily useful - what was the benevolent thinking behind that?

 

GroK:

Israel did not previously have access to water from the Al-Wahda Dam, which is a joint dam between Syria and Jordan. However, recent reports indicate that Israel has taken control of the dam. According to information from December 2024, Israeli forces seized the Al-Wahda Dam as part of military operations in southern Syria, thereby gaining control over this water resource.

 

People can judge for themselves which is the most likely explanation as to why Israel now controls the Al-Wahda Dam.

 

Anyway, posting here is like trying to engage with one hand tied behind my back, I would probably be better off posting more on X where 600 million people worldwide can potentially see my posts, rather than a handful of retirees and Teachers.

It was also reported on an Iranian media website, must have been very interesting for them. Especially considering the Israeli  commando raid against an Iranian missile manufacturing site in Syria. Israel making good use of the arms bought from the US.

[Nick Carter icp]

4 hours ago, mokwit said:

 

Couple of points on replying to you:

1) I have previously made serious points and you have commented facetiously on them so I don't feel under any obligation to reply to you. You also made a facetious comment on another members post where he expressed concern regarding murder of civilians.

 

 

10 minutes ago, mokwit said:

would probably be better off posting more on X where 600 million people worldwide can potentially see my posts, rather than a handful of retirees and Teachers.

 

   You are the one making facetious comments , NOT me .

I am neither a retiree or an English teacher .

I don't recall ever making facetious comments towards you .

If you don't want to talk to me, then don't 

[mrwebb8825]

14 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   The suggestion seemed to be that some American people are receiving some of the Israel aid money, like a bribe or some kickback , rather than people receiving salaries for working in the arms industry

I think you're confusing Israel with Ukraine.

[thaibeachlovers]

On 1/6/2025 at 3:50 PM, jippytum said:

There was a cease fire in Gaza before the terrorist attact on Israel

Overlooking a few things in your excusing israel of any wrongdoing. Gaza was basically an open air prison with a blockade by land and sea, and dependent on aid to survive. I'm sure you would enjoy life as one of them as you seem to think it was just peachy for Palestinians before Oct 7.

[jippytum]

2 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Overlooking a few things in your excusing israel of any wrongdoing. Gaza was basically an open air prison with a blockade by land and sea, and dependent on aid to survive. I'm sure you would enjoy life as one of them as you seem to think it was just peachy for Palestinians before Oct 7.

did they start the war by breaking the ceasefire and invading and killing hundreds of isralies???? 

[thaibeachlovers]

On 1/6/2025 at 6:14 PM, billd766 said:

And what are you supposed to do when a country attacks and invades your country?

 

Do you turn the other cheek or do you fight back?

 

Israel has not only invaded Gaza, the West Bank, Lebanon, Iran and now Syria.

Seems we are on the same side regards this situation.

[thaibeachlovers]

1 minute ago, jippytum said:

did they start the war by breaking the ceasefire and invading and killing hundreds of isralies???? 

They started the war in 1948 with the Naqba. All the subsequent conflicts were and are battles in that war.

[thaibeachlovers]

On 1/6/2025 at 3:57 PM, jippytum said:

The USA and European countries including the UK helping Israel defeat terrorists  is a good thing and a vote winning bonus. 

Seems the voters don't agree with you as they are changing the governments in a few Euro countries.

[thaibeachlovers]

On 1/6/2025 at 9:07 AM, Social Media said:

The Biden administration has formally notified Congress of a proposed $8 billion arms sale to Israel,

A sale or a gift? Israel must be near broke after a year of conflict and thousands of workers in the military.

 

Has the Biden administration ever asked the citizens if they agree with spending billions on weapons that future generations will be paying for, given the amount the US is in debt?