Spanish student dies after being attacked by elephant in Thailand

[ronster]

6 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Very common in Chiang Mai, foreign women in very small bikinis swimming and washing muddy elephants in the river at Mae Wang almost everyday.

How long before people are trying to pay to wash the women ! 😄

[Sig]

53 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

No these are domesticated and would not survive in the wild.

there is a big difference 

And yet, somehow their numbers don't seem to be dwindling as they are "rescued" and they are allowed to breed in these places, so these animals that cannot survive in the wild are born and held captive in slavery to tourist attractions. What a wonderful and caring place these "sanctuaries" are.... 😒

[Sig]

5 minutes ago, ronster said:

How long before people are trying to pay to wash the women ! 😄

I'd be willing to bet that a good entrepreneur would be able to make a go of a business model like that....

[ryandb]

50 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Says who?

Wildlife experts, end of conversation. I haven't the time to deal with someone who can't figure out a google search

[steven100]

Having a bath with an elephant 

 

what could possibly go wrong      !

 

 

 

[spidermike007]

Perhaps elephants might be the exception to this rule because I think in general they tend to be more gentle than many other beasts, but it seems like there's a proliferation these days of people wanting to get close to enormous and very powerful beasts, that are not necessarily as civilized and is gentle as they think they are. Such as the couple who lost their lives to a brown bear recently. Idiots like the adventure guy who lost his life to a manta ray while petting him, and so many others who think that because I love them they will love me back. 

[Chongalulu]

6 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Very common in Chiang Mai, foreign women in very small bikinis swimming and washing muddy elephants in the river at Mae Wang almost everyday.

I’m heading up there in my "Elephant man" outfit as we speak. Thanks for the tip! 😘 

[hotchilli]

7 hours ago, webfact said:

Thailand is home to roughly 3,500 elephants, with about 2,800 involved in tourist activities

Money is number one.

[Liverpool Lou]

12 minutes ago, ryandb said:

1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Says who?

Wildlife experts, end of conversation.

Why should I have to do a Google search to verify your implausible assertion it is "unethical to bathe with elephants"...you're the one who needs to justify your claim!   Elephants have strong ethical standards, now, do they?

[TTSIssues]

44 minutes ago, Sig said:

Could always just let nature take care of itself. They'll starve to death and their numbers will get to a sustainable point.

Bit harsh with all the development going on and losing their natural habitat? 

[madone]

7 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Very common in Chiang Mai, foreign women in very small bikinis swimming and washing muddy elephants in the river at Mae Wang almost everyday.

i have zero issues with that. 

[Captain Flack]

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[Patong2021]

2 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

The elephants in question are not wild, they are domesticated.

 

One does not domesticate an elephant. One can perhaps  train it to perform some tasks, but the elephant remains an animal made to roam, and roam it will.  The injuries sustained  were not  necessarily intentional, and were more likely related to the elephant being an elephant. 

[Theforgotten1]

Good place to see animals in the wild sirisafarikuiburi. Look it up , I had a great time and experience 

[Nairbem]

4 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Can you watch the girls for free or do you have to pay to watch them ?

Better if could wash 🤔 them !

[parallelman]

Yes, just watched TNT who mentioned this (couldn't get on to AN due to an 'host [AN] error 504). Apparently it's a common tourist (fee couple of thousand Baht) activity. One has to remember these are wid animals and not 'domesticated'. Nonetheless, being stabbed by an elephant tusk must have been very painful. Tragic. Condolences to the young lady's family

[MikeandDow]

4 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

No, they are domesticated.  Ending your post with "Period" doesn't make it factual.

you need to do reasearch there are EXPERTS who state they can not be domesticated (fact) you are full of BS and a troll which should be ignored

[twizzian]

9 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Very common in Chiang Mai, foreign women in very small bikinis swimming and washing muddy elephants in the river at Mae Wang almost everyday.

I can’t quite make out if their tattoos or just covered in mud

[Shocked farang]

4 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

"Beautiful"?  Huh?  You may like them but, objectively, they are particularly ugly animals.

Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder... 

[Shocked farang]

3 minutes ago, twizzian said:

I can’t quite make out if their tattoos or just covered in mud

Welcome to the 21st century. Many young people have their bodies full of strange tattoos... 

[Shocked farang]

10 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

you need to do reasearch there are EXPERTS who state they can not be domesticated (fact) you are full of BS and a troll which should be ignored

These elephants from sanctuaries are not domesticated at all. Many come from abusive situations or are orphans. I was once in an elephant orphanage in Sri Lanka, the same bathing tourist attraction in order to get some revenues. 

[MikeandDow]

1 minute ago, Shocked farang said:

These elephants from sanctuaries are not domesticated at all. Many come from abusive situations or are orphans. I was once in an elephant orphanage in Sri Lanka, the same bathing tourist attraction in order to get some revenues. 

Elephants are wild animals and can not be domesticated, as far as swimming with a wild animals that is a first place for the Darwin Award, Thais will do anything for money including putting people in danger

[sambum]

".........It serves as a reminder of the unpredictability of wildlife behaviour.....

 

Correct, and many people who have had encounters with Pit Bulls/X Bully dogs can bear testimony to that fact. Unfortunately some of them can't, because as in this case the enconters proved fatal. 

[sambum]

7 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

Elephants are wild animals and can not be domesticated, as far as swimming with a wild animals that is a first place for the Darwin Award, Thais will do anything for money including putting people in danger

 

"Elephants are wild animals and can not be domesticated,...."

 

You could say the same about dogs as they originally came from the wild (Wolves) and cats (Tigers etc). Some elephants are domesticated, but one should never underestimate the power of these creatures - what to an elephant may be a playful swipe with its trunk can have a devastating effect on a fragile human body.

[MikeandDow]

4 minutes ago, sambum said:

 

"Elephants are wild animals and can not be domesticated,...."

 

You could say the same about dogs as they originally came from the wild (Wolves) and cats (Tigers etc). Some elephants are domesticated, but one should never underestimate the power of these creatures - what to an elephant may be a playful swipe with its trunk can have a devastating effect on a fragile human body.

WOW so wrong !!!

Elephants are not domesticated, but they are sometimes referred to as such:

• Domestication

  Domestication is a process that involves selective breeding over many generations, and it's generally agreed that elephants have not been domesticated in this way.

   

• Captive elephants

  Captive elephants are tamed, but not domesticated. They are often used for tourism, in promotions, and in zoos, and their circumstances are often poor. 

   

   DOGs did not come from wolves diffrent DNA

[cardinalblue]

9 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

Exploiting animals never has a good outcome.

 

RIP to the young lady. 

This is a very misinformed post…this activity is just the opposite of exploitation…it was created b/c of the circus acts that the other types of elephant parks over the years catering to mainly Asian tourists and naive westerners….

 

many of my home exchange people in CM requests this type of elephant interaction vs riding/playing soccer/painting/moving logs parks that still exist today…

 

Hope you educate yourself on the different types of elephant parks….

[jingjai9]

Non Asian tourists most often do not have an adequate perception of elephants in many cases. They are often not portrayed realistically in western media or Hollywood or even western newscasts. I think sharing living space with monkeys or elephants is a great mistake, for the people and animals alike. These tropical animals living in semi captivity is most dangerous. Not every animal can adapt as well as dogs to a domestic setting. Even kittens with a domesticated mother will act feral if they are born in the woods. 

Imagine letting wolves or wild boars run around in or near your community just because it looks cool or some opportunistic businessman found a way to make a few bucks exploiting wildlife.

[Skeptic7]

5 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

"Beautiful"?  Huh?  You may like them but, objectively, they are particularly ugly animals.

Your "objectivity" is very subjective. 

[hotchilli]

10 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

 

They can discuss it all they want.

 

They are only interested in profits, which come way before health and safety and the welfare of animals here.

Not forgetting tourists safety should come before profit, but hey this is Thailand

it only takes an elephants to roll over and bye bye tourist..

 

[Nick Carter icp]

3 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

Not forgetting tourists safety should come before profit, but hey this is Thailand

it only takes an elephants to roll over and bye bye tourist..

 

 

   The tourists should be able to do what they want to do , that's why tourists go to Thailand