Are more and more mainland Chinese trading in China for a life in Northern Thailand?

[Terrance8812]

After watching this video you get the impression that the 20,000,000 to 30,000,000 mainland Chinese tourists that come here every year are no longer coming for just short stays, but are looking to eventually set themselves up here and immigrate permanently. 

 

Do you think places like Chiang Mai in the north of Thailand will eventually become overrun with mainland Chinese residents, some of whom might become involved in illegal business and other similar activities?
 

And will they eventually start to disrupt the peaceful way of life in the north if they do start building larger Chinese communities in Thailand in order to cater to their own culture and lifestyles rather than integrating into the local way of life?

https://youtu.be/oIDsvIQ0UvM

[MalcolmB]

Thank you for that. Very interesting 

 

Basically they come here for similar reasons to us, to escape the rat race and to be amongst the happy Thais, Thais that can have a lot less financially than us but still be happier.

[mokwit]

56 minutes ago, Terrance8812 said:

Do you think places like Chiang Mai in the north of Thailand will eventually become overrun with mainland Chinese residents, some of whom might become involved in illegal business and other similar activities?

Eventually?

[Lacessit]

The Thai government does seem to welcome them.

 

There are several venues in Chiang Rai that are owned by Koreans, so it's not just the Chinese.

[FriscoKid]

Is the women owning and running that farm doing it legally? Aren't jobs involving agriculture and animal husbandry prohibited occupations for foreigners? Is she a naturalized Thai citizen?

[NoDisplayName]

5 hours ago, Terrance8812 said:

After watching this video

 

I've seen this exact same video hundreds of times.

 

Only difference is all the faces in those videos are WHite and speaking English, wanting to escape the relentless rat race in (insert western country) for a more relaxed lifestyle.

[Terrance8812]

In the video, the journalist also talks about "affordable land" in northern Thailand, insinuating that Chinese nationals would have access to land for farming if they emigrate to Thailand. Should foreigners really be coming to Thailand with ambitions of obtaining land for farming? Is that what the government and the immigration department wants?

[simon43]

Yes, interesting video, and they are doing exactly the same as 'farang' are doing.

 

But you know what struck me the most about that video? The terrible air pollution, which you can clearly see in many of the external shots.

 

'Chiang Mai, a city to die in', sorry! I mean 'a city to die for'

[AndreasHG]

17 hours ago, Terrance8812 said:

Chinese tourists that come here every year are no longer coming for just short stays, but are looking to eventually set themselves up here and immigrate permanently

 

It's sad to see people leaving their country to escape dictatorship, repression and war.

 

I wonder if Thailand is the right place to seek shelter from the authoritarian rulers of the PRC, of Cambodia, Laos, Myanmar, etc. Recent news about the Cambodian MP shot dead in Bangkok, or extrajudicial extraditions from Thailand to neighboring countries, or evidence that Thai authorities have assisted neighboring governments to take unlawful actions against refugees, are not reassuring.

 

I hope Thailand comes to its senses and shows compassion, or karuna, a core Buddhist value, a feeling of concern for others that should motivate people to help those suffering, including those suffering from injustice in their homeland. 

 

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[black tabby12345]

17 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

Thank you for that. Very interesting 

 

Basically they come here for similar reasons to us, to escape the rat race and to be amongst the happy Thais, Thais that can have a lot less financially than us but still be happier.

 

Escaping from the rat race.

A good quote.

There are several Chinese nations in my apartment (Chiang Mai).

Some are retirees over 50. Some are younger.

One of the young ones  called himself Tam Ping(Lying Down).

An emerging life style among young Chinese in recent years.

Getting off their unrewarding social system: Practicing Minimalist way of life instead.

As far as I can see, they are living a peaceful quite life here.

Hardly look like trying to take over this place.

While  there are some young entrepreneurs(e.g.opening a Chinese restaurant outside old city area).

 

entrepreneur

[Denim]

The interesting aspect is how expat communities , of whatever nationality , like to flock together and limit their integration to just being here and picking up a smattering of Thai. Look at places like Phuket , Pattaya , Chiang Mai etc and you will find some areas that are almost completely Russian , Chinese or Western. 

 

This is not so different from the UK where we see asians choosing to live in towns and cities where they can limit their integration into British society. Places where they can go for days on end just speaking their own language ,eating their own food and using their own social networks etc. 

 

They can live here for decades but have no Thais as real friends. 

[black tabby12345]

24 minutes ago, AndreasHG said:

 

It's sad to see people leaving their country to escape dictatorship, repression and war.

 

I wonder if Thailand is the right place to seek shelter from the authoritarian rulers of the PRC, of Cambodia, Laos, Myanmar, etc.

 

Traditionally, China has been a country of mass exodus since 18-19 century.

So departure of its people itself  isn't really new.

 

Thailand is the right place for a lot of people to seek shelter; its tolerance of the people with different face, color, and culture.  As well as its lower cost of living(compared to the 1st world).

[RayOday]

9 hours ago, simon43 said:

Yes, interesting video, and they are doing exactly the same as 'farang' are doing.

 

But you know what struck me the most about that video? The terrible air pollution, which you can clearly see in many of the external shots.

 

'Chiang Mai, a city to die in', sorry! I mean 'a city to die for'

I have been tracking the AQI for Chiang Mai, Bangkok, Huahin, Trang, Trat, Samui, and Songkhla for the month of Dec. and Jan. YTD and Bangkok has been consistently worse than Chiang Mai. Let's see if and when the ranking flips. I have empathy for the poor folks in Delhi, Dhaka, Karachi, and Lahore at over 200 AQI. All readings taken from IQair's daily website rankings or search. 

[ignore it]

I love the bullet point headline.

 

Chines

 

I'll be using that one. 

[Kinok Farang]

Could be worse.Thank god its not Arabs "yet".

[bkk6060]

I am sure there are, but I not seeing many settled in the city.  Nimman is mostly Chinese tourists.

Lamphun, Mae Taeng, and other areas outside the city I see lots of Chinese living in these areas.  

 

 

[Presnock]

20 hours ago, Terrance8812 said:

After watching this video you get the impression that the 20,000,000 to 30,000,000 mainland Chinese tourists that come here every year are no longer coming for just short stays, but are looking to eventually set themselves up here and immigrate permanently. 

 

Do you think places like Chiang Mai in the north of Thailand will eventually become overrun with mainland Chinese residents, some of whom might become involved in illegal business and other similar activities?
 

And will they eventually start to disrupt the peaceful way of life in the north if they do start building larger Chinese communities in Thailand in order to cater to their own culture and lifestyles rather than integrating into the local way of life?

https://youtu.be/oIDsvIQ0UvM

Well, based on some of the stories, as we know, many locals are from China and still have relatives there or people there wanting o purchase property (including land) .  Some farang spouses or co-habiters with a Chinese connection have indicated purhasing many properties for these Chinese folks.  I met some of them coming to my new mooban - about 50 Chinese on a bus!  I was doing my daily eveining walk and they stopped me to ask all about the mooban but...I passed speaking Spanish to them instead of English or Thai so they walked away.  But I have seen several Chinese move into some of the houses - some from HongKong as they grew tired of the 

rhetoric from Beijing.,  Fromwhat I read, The northern part of Laos is now an extension totally Chinese!  Thailand might become that too.

[spidermike007]

Yes the quality of life in Thailand is infinitely higher and the price of real estate in Thailand is significantly lower. Why live under an oppressive regime with bad intentions, if you don't have to? 

[NorthernRyland]

That girl at the start has a YouTube channel of building a super low budget hippy retreat in Chiang Dao which is catering mostly to Chinese friends. She's probably pulling lots of Chinese and who knows it could be the new Pai for Chinese since whitey has taken Pai over again. Honestly it looks like she's running an illegal tourism business and the land was bought via a nominee which she probably shouldn't be adversing on YouTube....

 

I know of an area in Mae Jo which has been colonized by Chinese by way of making a housing project decorated with Chinese artifacts and flags. 80% of people at immigration in Chiang Mai this December were Chinese so yes huge numbers there and they seem pretty permanent.

 

 

[NorthernRyland]

1 hour ago, bkk6060 said:

I am sure there are, but I not seeing many settled in the city.  Nimman is mostly Chinese tourists.

Lamphun, Mae Taeng, and other areas outside the city I see lots of Chinese living in these areas.  

 

 

 

They're setting up a little colony here in Mae Jo, I was told for Chinese only. Chinese still have "china town" in all the cities they were allowed to immigrate to, ever 100 years later.

 

They have 2 projects around the lake you can see on the map but I bet they build more over the years. In fact I heard the rented the rights to lake as part of their project but have been gracious and open it to the public and put a nice path around it for the uni kids. They actually did more to improve the area then the Thais ever did so there's that at least...

 

[OneManShow]

There are many Chinese girls who are looking for a decent man to have relationship with and possibly stay permanently in CM where I had lived in before I moved to seaside.