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Bangkok Traffic Innovations Cut City Congestion by 25% in Two Years


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If true, that's quite impressive. I rarely go long distance by car in the city. Normally opt for BTS/MRT or ride my motorcycle. Could the opening of all the new rail lines have something to do with this? What about the economy in the city too? I see a huge number of businesses shuttered and not opening in areas outside the city core (namely Ladprao and environs).

 

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Having just travelled from Bk to Khon kaen I am impressed by the speed of the upgrade of Rail lines and stations. Had not been since before Covid so the changes dramatic. Once they invest in better Locomotives and rolling stock the transformation will be amazing

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Try going from Sukhumvit to Saphan Thaksin by taxi, took my family two hours the other day, we came back by BTS in twenty minutes but a handful with two infants in pushchairs.

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At least some evidence for the Thai powers-that-be that it's action rather than announcements that changes the world for the better ...

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1 hour ago, TTSIssues said:

”Look at the improved traffic flow because of the congestion charge”

London is under the auspices of the elitists and the radical left.

 

Endgame: Tax you out of your private automobile.

 

You will own nothin and be chipper my friend.

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14 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Further technological enhancements include the installation of AI-equipped CCTV cameras to catch traffic offenders, alongside road improvements aimed at enhancing driver comfort. These initiatives have been implemented across 50 strategic locations in the city.

 

Yes, more CCTV cameras and fines, the Cameras are doing a better job than the RTP in protecting a serving the people.

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Only idiots buy depreciating assets to sit in traffic when a reasonable rail structure now exists in BKK.

 

Middle class Thai like the privacy, comfort of driving their vehicles directly into city. Especially if you have an overpriced snob mobile. In the west there are parking lots at metro stations for the burbans to park and ride. Some here too and some even within city limits. Ooooh that's to plebian for the new car snobs.

 

Get the heavily polluting vehicles off the road.

 

Non motorized options. I guess this is newspeak for walking. I walk a lot here. Perhaps 5-10k steps daily.

 

Decrease of 10% lol. This is immeasurable and based on what?? So, you drive cross town and it usually takes 90 minutes - now it allegedly takes 81 minutes.. maybe, sometimes 🤯

 

Thailand is just not a serious place. It can't accomplish much of anything aside from over budget transport projects.

 

How hard can it be to get farmers to stop burning crops? How hard can it be to get old vehicles off the road?

 

Traffic efficiency is great, but BKK has lived with it for 40 years. Timing lights is old technology, old think.

 

Meanwhile.. what's the PM today?

 

Congestion pricing just money grab. It's like we don't want the congestion, but if you pay the extortion.. it's ok.

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49 minutes ago, Woke to Sounds of Horking said:

London is under the auspices of the elitists and the radical left.

 

Endgame: Tax you out of your private automobile.

 

You will own nothin and be chipper my friend.

Ontario came up with a better traffic control system although now it's back to where it was.  I durance companies almost doubled car Insurance if you drive into Toronto and parking was way over expensive.

 

Looking at NYC which just did the congestion tax I am not sure it will work. Sending a bill that can be ignored doesn't make sense.  

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17 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

road improvements aimed at enhancing driver comfort.

WHAT??? Free foot massages while waiting on 15 minute lights to turn green?

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How about creating some Innovation on Rama 2, the infamous highway which is over a decade behind schedule, and probably has 20 years to go. The progress seems unbelievably slow, considering the fact that they're only at kilometer 36.

 

I would replace the construction company with a Chinese company, who would probably complete the highway in 2 years. 

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5 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

25% in 2 years means 100% in 8 years. Bravo

 

Another Fantasy from Thai bureaucrats.

The planer might have been in the state of Drug High 

when he prepared the press release draft.

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2 hours ago, Highball said:

Only idiots buy depreciating assets to sit in traffic when a reasonable rail structure now exists in BKK.

 

Middle class Thai like the privacy, comfort of driving their vehicles directly into city. Especially if you have an overpriced snob mobile. In the west there are parking lots at metro stations for the burbans to park and ride. Some here too and some even within city limits. Ooooh that's to plebian for the new car snobs.

 

Get the heavily polluting vehicles off the road.

 

Non motorized options. I guess this is newspeak for walking. I walk a lot here. Perhaps 5-10k steps daily.

 

Decrease of 10% lol. This is immeasurable and based on what?? So, you drive cross town and it usually takes 90 minutes - now it allegedly takes 81 minutes.. maybe, sometimes 🤯

 

Thailand is just not a serious place. It can't accomplish much of anything aside from over budget transport projects.

 

How hard can it be to get farmers to stop burning crops? How hard can it be to get old vehicles off the road?

 

Traffic efficiency is great, but BKK has lived with it for 40 years. Timing lights is old technology, old think.

 

Meanwhile.. what's the PM today?

 

Congestion pricing just money grab. It's like we don't want the congestion, but if you pay the extortion.. it's ok.

You must have university education to come with BS. Complete 💩

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2 hours ago, black tabby12345 said:

 

Another case of Talking, But Not Happening...

It's the only thing that does happen

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    I haven't seen any improvement in the area where we have our condo near the Phetchaburi MRT station.  If anything, the traffic is worse with all the new condos that have recently been built, and are still being built in the area, including the huge twin towers of One 9 Five condo, among others.  

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Optimising the flow of existing Traffic is of course going to offer results improving congestion. 

As would 'shifting' the culture so that people don't enter a blocked box junction when the light is yellow - there is no concept of the greater good - Bangkok traffic really is 'dog eat dog'... 

 

But, the underlying issue is simply the pure volume of traffic on the roads. 

 

More and more Condo's, more and more shopping malls - more and more area's of huge population density and so many people getting to and from these area's in cars. 

 

The Mayor of Bogata; Gustavo Petro, is famed for his quote:  'A developed country is not a place where the poor have cars. It's where the rich use public transportation.'

 

When public transport in Thailand is 'good enough' to encourage the wealthy and middle classes to use it, only then will we see significant improvements.

 

The BTS / MRT network is excellent, however, it is still unusable for most of the city:  We use our car 99% of the time, because we don't live within walking distance of a station. 

In many cases, using a car is still quicker than getting a taxi to the BTS, taking the BTS, then using a taxi on the other side (and waiting at each juncture)....   

But, at times of peak traffic, if needing to get somewhere thats on a BTS / MRT line we often drive 'out a little' and park up at Lotus OnNut and then take the BTS.

 

The other factor is the heat - its hot and sweating walking 100 or 200m to a BTS station - thats a lot more uncomfortable than sitting in Air-conditioning, with cooled leather seats.

 

Thus: I think the only way to truly reduce congestion is to 'price people out' of using their cars - this is the only way it worked in London - Congestion charges... 

 

 

 

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