Tourists Detained After Vaping Mid-Air on Nok Air Flight

[Smokey and the Bandit]

"Neeranoot also noted that one of the men disregarded the safety demonstration and refused to wear his seatbelt during take-off."

 

Why wasn't this reported to the captain and the plane returned to the gate?????

[wealthychef]

3 hours ago, ikke1959 said:

It is clear that vaping is forbidden just a smoking, but detaining someone for it???? Better put him on a blacklist that he can't fly for a few years...

 

detention is the first step.  The blacklist comes later.  

 

[hotchilli]

2 hours ago, MikeandDow said:

Thailand Quality Tourists

Got it one...

[bkkcanuck8]

5 minutes ago, advancebooking said:

In the states would one get prison time for that or just a warning?

Depends, in this case the pluses would be (assumption) they did not tamper with smoke detectors

Negative would be that it sounds like they interfered with the duties of the flight attendant... 

 

If this was the first offence and you obeyed the flight attendant and did not tamper with a smoke detector - you likely would have received a fine of less than $4,000USD. 

However, if you did not obey the flight attendant -- you likely would get some prison time in addition to the fine.  (can be up to 20 years depending on many factors - but my guess is the end with 20 years would be reserved for those that tampered with smoke detectors - and had a less than stellar record before this).   (I am not a lawyer so take it as a grain of salt). 

If the flight had to divert due to being unruly -- you could be on the hook for any extra costs the airline incurred (that can range from $10,000USD to 200,000USD).

[richard_smith237]

Firstly - what complete, antisocial ignorant pigs... 

... How on earth did they even end up in Thailand in the first place if this is their behavior... 

 

While this is hardly a 'dangerous' activity - it shows complete disregard for anyone else around them and is at the height of anti-social behavior.

 

I'm all for a black-list in these situations - there is no reason for Thailand to be accommodating for anyone who behaves in such an overly discussing manner.

 

 

3 hours ago, Georgealbert said:

“I noticed them being noisy at the gate and saw them vaping in the boarding queue. During the flight, the smell became overwhelming, even through my mask, and I started feeling dizzy.”

 

While complete siding with this guy, I also noticed the 'faux victim hood'...   smell was overwhelming and started feeling dizzy !!..  this shrinking violet is going to struggle walking down any sidewalk / pavement with smells of street food (and / or worse !!!)...   

... Rather puritanical over-reaction, though I completely agree with his objection (just not the exaggeration).

 

3 hours ago, Georgealbert said:

Neeranoot also noted that one of the men disregarded the safety demonstration and refused to wear his seatbelt during take-off. She filmed the incident as evidence and handed it over to flight attendants, who tackled the situation.

 

Even without the vaping aspect - this in itself is massively antisocial and disrespectful of the cabin crew and other passengers. In a heavy landing or accident this guy could be thrown from his seat and injure someone else.

 

[Wayne G]

Three <deleted> should have locked them up for a couple of days and a very heavy fine just to ruin there planned holiday

[richard_smith237]

Years ago, my Wife and I were on a very quiet Ethiad Airways flight from Bangkok to Abu Dhabi.

 

There were 4 lads making a nuisance of themselves - it was like they had never flown before, they were excited, couldn't sit still, kept getting up and sitting in different seats (plane was only about 10% occupied).

 

They kept going backwards and forwards to the toilet (about 10 or 15 rows in front) - I could smell cigarette smoke on them when they walked past.

 

The flight attendants spoke with them... and this turned into a game. They kept going back to the toilet - the cabin crew would wait outside, tell them to sit down after they got caught smoking yet again.

 

My concern was that these lads were such idiots they were going to put a cigarette butt into the waste paper bin and cause a fire.

 

I was very surprised not to see any Police waiting when we got off the plane. 

The FA's did nothing other than try and stop them, which I guess is all they could do, but I'm also surprised the Captain did not get involved - I suspect they were 'somehow' connected locals, but this was Eco Class, so perhaps not, though I couldn't understand why this was not dealt with more seriously.

[newnative]

Give them a stretch in jail, big fine, ban them from flying, and deport them once they have served their jail time, with a 10-year visit ban thrown in.  

[Phillip9]

3 hours ago, novacova said:

In the US it’s a federal offense, smoke on a plane and become a certified felon.

It's a federal offense, but you get a fine for it.  No jail time.  It's not a felony.

[Cabradelmar]

White privilege knows no bounds 😂 

[bkkcanuck8]

57 minutes ago, Phillip9 said:

It's a federal offense, but you get a fine for it.  No jail time.  It's not a felony.

If the offence ONLY include smoking/vaping on the plane -- however it sounds like they also did not comply with the air crews admonishment and refused to comply with instructions. As such, I believe that the US federal law of "Interfering with a flight crews duties" which includes everything from physical interference, verbal interference, and refusing to comply with instructions (including fastening seat belts, stowing luggage, turning off electronic devices, and observing no-smoking rules) or other disruptive behavior... (49 U.S.C. § 46504).   For these the civil penalties are up to $37,000 per violation (multiple incidents can come from a single incident), and also criminal penalties (up to 20 years).  This is of course a lay opinion from the plain reading of the law. 

[JemJem]

4 hours ago, novacova said:

In the US it’s a federal offense, smoke on a plane and become a certified felon.

Wow. I didn't know that. And, possibly a very lengthy flying ban? 

 

I doubt very much that the punishment for these 3 will be half as strict as that. Just a guess. 

[Baba Naba]

"the smell became overwhelming, even through my mask, and I started feeling dizzy.”"  That's total horse<deleted>! I would bet they were hiding their cloud and you could barely smell it.  I have vaped everywhere w/o anyone even knowing I was doing it. There are simple methods of doing it and can be done anywhere w/o bothering a soul.

[MikeandDow]

58 minutes ago, Phillip9 said:

It's a federal offense, but you get a fine for it.  No jail time.  It's not a felony.

Who cares !!! this is a Thai forum

[MikeandDow]

1 minute ago, Baba Naba said:

"the smell became overwhelming, even through my mask, and I started feeling dizzy.”"  That's total horse<deleted>! I would bet they were hiding their cloud and you could barely smell it.  I have vaped everywhere w/o anyone even knowing I was doing it. There are simple methods of doing it and can be done anywhere w/o bothering a soul.

Filthy habit

[madone]

1 hour ago, Smokey and the Bandit said:

"Neeranoot also noted that one of the men disregarded the safety demonstration and refused to wear his seatbelt during take-off."

 

Why wasn't this reported to the captain and the plane returned to the gate?????

Khun Neeranoot probably wanted to wait until she had amassed some likes before acting

[kiwikeith]

4 hours ago, Woke to Sounds of Horking said:

These punks got no decency.

 

Could've been marijuana?

 

Deport immediately and 1 year ban.

 

Thailand does not need these kind of idiots.

I think I should write a book about the dumbest tourists that come to Thailand, and include pics of the Hilton and the worst Thai jails Title--- What not to do in Thailand unless your mentally incompetent. Available at all airports.

[Will B Good]

 

 

Now that is a special form of stupid.....it is not your run of the mill stupid.......you have to make a concerted effort.

[madone]

35 minutes ago, bkkcanuck8 said:

If the offence ONLY include smoking/vaping on the plane -- however it sounds like they also did not comply with the air crews admonishment and refused to comply with instructions. As such, I believe that the US federal law of "Interfering with a flight crews duties" which includes everything from physical interference, verbal interference, and refusing to comply with instructions (including fastening seat belts, stowing luggage, turning off electronic devices, and observing no-smoking rules) or other disruptive behavior... (49 U.S.C. § 46504).   For these the civil penalties are up to $37,000 per violation (multiple incidents can come from a single incident), and also criminal penalties (up to 20 years).  This is of course a lay opinion from the plain reading of the law. 

 

again, in case you missed it. This is Thailand.

[SunnyinBangrak]

Brings back memories of when i was busted smoking in the toilets of Garuda LHR to BKK back in the day. Must have been just after smoking cabins were ended. 

Long story short crew were waiting outside the toilet door and freaked out. Through a fog of smoke i denied everything. They said id be arrested on landing but nothing at all happened. I think it was a case of them having no evidence, who knows? Never again!😆

[madone]

14 minutes ago, Baba Naba said:

"the smell became overwhelming, even through my mask, and I started feeling dizzy.”"  That's total horse<deleted>! I would bet they were hiding their cloud and you could barely smell it.  I have vaped everywhere w/o anyone even knowing I was doing it. There are simple methods of doing it and can be done anywhere w/o bothering a soul.

while i agree the woman is playing the grievously injured victim, you are deluded. You are fooling no one 

[RaveBlond]

1 hour ago, Smokey and the Bandit said:

"Neeranoot also noted that one of the men disregarded the safety demonstration and refused to wear his seatbelt during take-off."

 

Why wasn't this reported to the captain and the plane returned to the gate?????

Because disregarding the safety demonstration is what 95% of the passengers do.  Not wearing your seatbelt during take-off and landing is easy as the cabin crew is sitting in their jumpseat at that time and cannot see it.  As long as you are wearing it while they are walking through the cabin for their safety checks, unless some other passenger rats them out or confronts them...  How stupid it is, though - making yourself a potential projectile to gravely harm others and yourself is beyond stupid... 

[madone]

2 minutes ago, RaveBlond said:

Because disregarding the safety demonstration is what 95% of the passengers do.  Not wearing your seatbelt during take-off and landing is easy as the cabin crew is sitting in their jumpseat at that time and cannot see it.  As long as you are wearing it while they are walking through the cabin for their safety checks, unless some other passenger rats them out or confronts them...  How stupid it is, though - making yourself a potential projectile to gravely harm others and yourself is beyond stupid... 

sarcasm well missed.

[Sighto]

5 hours ago, Georgealbert said:

shocking fellow passengers

Really? Passengers were in shock? Did they need mental health support upon landing? 

[RaveBlond]

3 minutes ago, madone said:

sarcasm well missed.

Grossly misplaced, your sarcasm, because if you are getting caught refusing to put on your seat belt during taxi for take-off, we are going back to the gate...

[bkkcanuck8]

21 minutes ago, madone said:

 

again, in case you missed it. This is Thailand.

In case you missed it it was in response to a chain of messages starting with someone asking what the punishment equivalent would be "in the states" (aka United States of America), to which I was replying to someone saying it was 'federal' and only a fine. (also in case you missed it -- Thailand is not a federation.  However, Earlier I also pointed out earlier what the possible charges were in Thailand and they would have more charges to apply and potentially more serious if they wanted to go that route. 

[Denim]

5 hours ago, Andre0720 said:

Told you this stuff damages the brain...😊

 

Assuming they possessed such an organ in the first place.

 

 

 

[bkkcanuck8]

9 minutes ago, Sighto said:

Really? Passengers were in shock? Did they need mental health support upon landing? 

As someone who has been on a plane that had to divert because some passengers were being unruly (and then could not take off again because at that point the pilots were over the limit on hours before takeoff)...  causing me to miss an important meeting... I would prefer there was just a hatch on board that they could dispose of passengers mid-flight and let them worry about the consequences. Thai's are too nice, they should have at least got out the duct tape and just taped them nice and firmly and be 'forced' to respect others rights as well... 🤣

[bluemoon58]

3 hours ago, Kandinski said:

I'm not a military strategist but a rule of thump is it takes  8 person in the industri, logistic etc to support 1 soldier. 

I was military and served in war zones and I can tell you that 75% of war fighting is taken up by logistics. 

[bangadang]

4 hours ago, Ironmike said:

I'm going out on a limb here but what's the bet there Russian cowards hiding here so they don't have to fight,,,complete morons I hope there deported back ASAP. 

 As opposed to Ukrainian cowards? 100,000s escaped the hell but I would call them smart not cowards.