Social Media Posted January 12 Posted January 12 Elon Musk's recent tweets on his social media platform, X, are reportedly under examination by the UK Government's counter-extremism officers. This intensified monitoring follows a series of inflammatory posts by Musk, the world's richest man, targeting the UK Government and its handling of grooming gangs. The Mirror reported that the Home Office unit is closely analyzing Musk's messages to assess the potential risks they pose to Britain. A government source confirmed the heightened vigilance, stating, "We keep a close eye on how disinformation and hate can proliferate, including online." The scrutiny comes in the wake of Musk’s aggressive criticisms on X, particularly aimed at Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer and other senior ministers over Labour’s decision to reject a new national inquiry into grooming gangs. Sir Keir Starmer has accused Musk of "spreading lies and misinformation" to his massive following of 210 million. Musk's posts have reignited the debate around grooming gangs, prompting both Tory leader Kemi Badenoch and Reform UK's Nigel Farage to renew calls for a national inquiry. The controversy intensified after the Government declined Oldham Council's request for a Whitehall-led inquiry, opting instead for a locally led investigation. This decision has been a focal point of Musk's criticism, drawing sharp rebukes from government officials. In response, Labour MP Jess Phillips has dismissed Musk's comments as "ridiculous" during a series of TV interviews. She accused Musk of having no understanding of the issue and warned that his spread of disinformation was "endangering" her. Despite the attacks, Phillips vowed to "suck it up," emphasizing that her experience paled compared to what abuse victims endure. Jonathan Hall, the independent reviewer of state threats legislation, weighed in on the situation, describing Musk’s actions as a "canary in the coalmine moment" for the UK. Speaking to *The Times*, Hall highlighted the need for society to adapt to the "new reality" of social media’s influence on public discourse. He pointed out that while Musk’s tweets may spread falsehoods, they do not constitute foreign interference since Musk is not acting on behalf of the US. Hall elaborated, “If you had malign intervention by a state, there's no reason to think at the moment we would be any less affected unless the system matures.” He emphasized the significant impact of Musk's posts on UK politics, saying, “This one intervention by a powerful foreign individual has entirely dictated the political weather in the UK. It is having real impact on ministers, on the Opposition, and on political campaigning.” While the 2024 election did not witness foreign interference, Hall warned that Musk’s actions demonstrate the potential power of external influences on UK politics. The Home Office has yet to comment on the reported investigation into Musk’s tweets. Based on a report by Daily Mail 2024-01-13
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted January 13 Popular Post Posted January 13 5 hours ago, Social Media said: Musk’s tweets may spread falsehoods, they do not constitute foreign interference since Musk is not acting on behalf of the US. That’s a thin definition of foreign interference. Musk is in any case appointed as a member of the incoming US administration. We also now know he has a willing little helper in Gollum lookalike Dominic Cummings. Musk and Cummings share unexplained association with Putin’s and Russian politics, intelligence and security services. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14274419/amp/Elon-Musk-Dominic-Cummings-plot-sabotage-UK-politics-Nigel-Farage.html https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/nov/03/dominic-cummings-labour-questions-russia-links 2 1 1 3 1
Popular Post JonnyF Posted January 13 Popular Post Posted January 13 Labour's bully boy authoritarian measures will not work on Musk. All they are doing is showing the world how they are enemies of the freedom of speech. It's fine for them to call Trump a racist, fascist KKK sympathizer but when Trump's supporters fire back they cry for Mummy. Pathetic little scrotes. 1 1 1 2 5 9
Chomper Higgot Posted January 13 Posted January 13 1 minute ago, JonnyF said: Labour's bully boy authoritarian measures will not work on Musk. All they are doing is showing the world how they are enemies of the freedom of speech. It's fine for them to call Trump a racist, fascist KKK sympathizer but when Trump's supporters fire back they cry for Mummy. Pathetic little scrotes. You’ve obviously flipped on the sovereignty thing and upholding democratic votes in the UK. 2 3 3
Popular Post JonnyF Posted January 13 Popular Post Posted January 13 5 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: You’ve obviously flipped on the sovereignty thing and upholding democratic votes in the UK. Are you claiming Musk's tweets are a threat to UK Democracy? 😄 Compared to say, trying to re-run the Brexit referendum because you didn't like the result? 3 2 4 1
Chomper Higgot Posted January 13 Posted January 13 Just now, JonnyF said: Are you claiming Musk's tweets are a threat to UK Democracy? 😄 Compared to say, trying to re-run the Brexit referendum because you didn't like the result? No I’m pointing out your remarkable reversal on matters of sovereignty and foreign interference in UK politics. Even the rightwing press are reporting these attempts to sabotage UK politics. https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1999281/elon-musk-dominic-cummings-plot/amp 2 2
Popular Post Will B Good Posted January 13 Popular Post Posted January 13 1 minute ago, JonnyF said: Are you claiming Musk's tweets are a threat to UK Democracy? 😄 Compared to say, trying to re-run the Brexit referendum because you didn't like the result? I guess you're not fussed about another GE in 2029.....we've had the vote, people have chosen....??? What?....Oh, you didn't like the result? 1 3 1 1 1
Popular Post BKKBike09 Posted January 13 Popular Post Posted January 13 33 minutes ago, Will B Good said: Oh dear!! Most grooming gang offences carried out by white men, police chiefs say - https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/elon-musk-npcc-keir-starmer-nigel-farage-pakistani-b2677586.html "But the data is incomplete, as the NPCC said the information on ethnicity was available for only 34% of suspects in the whole of 2023 and for only 39% of suspects in the first nine months of 2024". Take note of the the qualification 'where ethnicity data was available'. Would not surprise me if - as was the case with the abusers in Rochford, Telford, Rotherham etc - ethnicity data was deliberately not collected, or collected in a very non-specific manner. Regardless of the ethnicity of those involved, there should be a national enquiry into the paedophile rape gangs. 2 1 1 2
Popular Post JonnyF Posted January 13 Popular Post Posted January 13 2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: No I’m pointing out your remarkable reversal on matters of sovereignty and foreign interference in UK politics. Even the rightwing press are reporting these attempts to sabotage UK politics. https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1999281/elon-musk-dominic-cummings-plot/amp He is a private citizen commenting on X. Hardly a threat to UK sovereignty. 😄 1 1 4 1
Chomper Higgot Posted January 13 Posted January 13 1 minute ago, BKKBike09 said: "But the data is incomplete, as the NPCC said the information on ethnicity was available for only 34% of suspects in the whole of 2023 and for only 39% of suspects in the first nine months of 2024". Take note of the the qualification 'where ethnicity data was available'. Would not surprise me if - as was the case with the abusers in Rochford, Telford, Rotherham etc - ethnicity data was deliberately not collected, or collected in a very non-specific manner. Regardless of the ethnicity of those involved, there should be a national enquiry into the paedophile rape gangs. So when there is no data on ethnicity simply insert the assumption that best suits your bias. 1 1 1
Popular Post JonnyF Posted January 13 Popular Post Posted January 13 2 minutes ago, Will B Good said: I guess you're not fussed about another GE in 2029.....we've had the vote, people have chosen....??? What?....Oh, you didn't like the result? Strawman. I have never asked for a "Second vote" or "People's vote" on the UK general election despite disliking the result. I wouldn't sink to the depths that Remainers did after the Brexit vote... 1 1 2
Popular Post BKKBike09 Posted January 13 Popular Post Posted January 13 Just now, Chomper Higgot said: So when there is no data on ethnicity simply insert the assumption that best suits your bias. Yawn. Isn't that exactly what you're doing? 1 3 2 1
Chomper Higgot Posted January 13 Posted January 13 1 minute ago, JonnyF said: He is a private citizen commenting on X. Hardly a threat to UK sovereignty. 😄 So why are the rightwing press reporting an attempt by Musk to sabotage UK politics? The richest private citizen in the world intent on removing the leader of the elected UK Government. And you’ve suddenly lost all patriotic support for the will of the people and the sovereignty of the nation. My how how you blow with the wind Jonny. 2 1 1
Chomper Higgot Posted January 13 Posted January 13 1 minute ago, BKKBike09 said: Yawn. Isn't that exactly what you're doing? No it’s not, but you seem sleepy so maybe you aren’t keeping up. 2 1
Popular Post JonnyF Posted January 13 Popular Post Posted January 13 2 minutes ago, BKKBike09 said: "But the data is incomplete, as the NPCC said the information on ethnicity was available for only 34% of suspects in the whole of 2023 and for only 39% of suspects in the first nine months of 2024". Take note of the the qualification 'where ethnicity data was available'. Would not surprise me if - as was the case with the abusers in Rochford, Telford, Rotherham etc - ethnicity data was deliberately not collected, or collected in a very non-specific manner. Regardless of the ethnicity of those involved, there should be a national enquiry into the paedophile rape gangs. That's right. And the whole issue of these gangs is that the police refuse to investigate minorities because they don't want to be called Racist. So it's hardly a surprise they do not feature in the statistics. Still, the lefties seem very proud of these deliberately incomplete/distorted figures. 2 1 2 1
JonnyF Posted January 13 Posted January 13 1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said: So why are the rightwing press reporting an attempt by Musk to sabotage UK politics? Probably to draw attention to his tweets. 1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said: The richest private citizen in the world intent on removing the leader of the elected UK Government. Should rich people be silenced? What is the level of wealth below which one is allowed to voice an opinion? 1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said: And you’ve suddenly lost all patriotic support for the will of the people and the sovereignty of the nation. Not at all. I respect Democratic votes, unlike you. 1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said: My how how you blow with the wind Jonny. Didn't hear you complaining when Labour were tweeting lies about Trump, or sending volunteers to the US to campaign against him. In fact you were defending it. My how you love hypocrisy Chomps. 1
Chomper Higgot Posted January 13 Posted January 13 10 minutes ago, JonnyF said: Probably to draw attention to his tweets. Should rich people be silenced? What is the level of wealth below which one is allowed to voice an opinion? Not at all. I respect Democratic votes, unlike you. Didn't hear you complaining when Labour were tweeting lies about Trump, or sending volunteers to the US to campaign against him. In fact you were defending it. My how you love hypocrisy Chomps. I never stated rich people should be silenced. I have only ever argued that the means to overturn any democratic vote is by another democratic vote. So yes I do respect democracy. Labour did not tweet lies about Trump. Volunteers in a democratic election process are not the same thing as an online campaign to sabotage the UK Government (AKA false equivalence). It’s your switch on the matter of interfering in UK politics that’s remarkable. Deflect away. 1 1 2
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted January 13 Popular Post Posted January 13 22 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: So when there is no data on ethnicity simply insert the assumption that best suits your bias. Not only no data on ethnicity but as the reports say, thousands of cases ignored and never arrested consequently never added to the stats directly because of their ethnicity, making any stats next to useless. 1 1 2
Popular Post JonnyF Posted January 13 Popular Post Posted January 13 1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said: I never stated rich people should be silenced. I have only ever argued that the means to overturn any democratic vote is by another democratic vote. So yes I do respect democracy. Labour did not tweet lies about Trump. Volunteers in a democratic election process are not the same thing as an online campaign to sabotage the UK Government (AKA false equivalence). It’s your switch on the matter of interfering in UK politics that’s remarkable. Deflect away. American's have always interfered in UK politics. Oirish Joe was always trying but nobody would listen to the doddery old fool. The only reason you are outraged is because Musk is too powerful to be silenced, bullied, incarcerated or censored. That terrifies Leftists. Not only the truth, but the truth from someone who cannot be silenced. I understand your panic. 2 2
Chomper Higgot Posted January 13 Posted January 13 1 minute ago, JonnyF said: American's have always interfered in UK politics. Oirish Joe was always trying but nobody would listen to the doddery old fool. The only reason you are outraged is because Musk is too powerful to be silenced, bullied, incarcerated or censored. That terrifies Leftists. Not only the truth, but the truth from someone who cannot be silenced. I understand your panic. I’m not outraged Jonny, I’m amused at how readily you blow with the wind. 2
JonnyF Posted January 13 Posted January 13 1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said: I’m not outraged Jonny, I’m amused at how readily you blow with the wind. How so? I've always believed in freedom of speech. Whether that is a rich man or a poor man. I may have mocked Joe for his stupid comments, but I never called for him to be silenced. It seems you oppose Musk voicing an opinion because you disagree with it (and realize the reach he has). Bad luck for you the leftists cannot lock him up for hate speech (or more accurately, speech you hate).
Chomper Higgot Posted January 13 Posted January 13 14 minutes ago, JonnyF said: How so? I've always believed in freedom of speech. Whether that is a rich man or a poor man. I may have mocked Joe for his stupid comments, but I never called for him to be silenced. It seems you oppose Musk voicing an opinion because you disagree with it (and realize the reach he has). Bad luck for you the leftists cannot lock him up for hate speech (or more accurately, speech you hate). Musk is not simply engaging in free search, he is, with the aid of Cummings, attempting to sabotage UK politics, I have provided a link. 1 1 1
Popular Post sandyf Posted January 13 Popular Post Posted January 13 49 minutes ago, JonnyF said: Are you claiming Musk's tweets are a threat to UK Democracy? Not only the UK, this month will see an increased threat to global democracy. The US population has made the world a more dangerous place. 2 1 2
JonnyF Posted January 13 Posted January 13 6 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Trump is not simply engaging in free search Huh??? I thought we were discussing Musk on X? What's Trump searching for?
JonnyF Posted January 13 Posted January 13 3 minutes ago, sandyf said: Not only the UK, this month will see an increased threat to global democracy. How is it affecting UK Democracy? In which other countries will this be affected? And how? Are elections being cancelled by Musk?
Chomper Higgot Posted January 13 Posted January 13 8 minutes ago, JonnyF said: How is it affecting UK Democracy? In which other countries will this be affected? And how? Are elections being cancelled by Musk? He’s trying to oust the leader of the UK’s elected Government. Does it need to be more obvious than that? 1 2
Popular Post sandyf Posted January 13 Popular Post Posted January 13 42 minutes ago, JonnyF said: Should rich people be silenced? What is the level of wealth below which one is allowed to voice an opinion? Self respecting rich people acknowledge the influence they may or may not have and use their opinion with caution. Given a position in the new administration, Musk is like a kid showing off a new toy. 1 3
Popular Post simon43 Posted January 13 Popular Post Posted January 13 It's definitely not a 'good look' when the failings and racism against white Brits by successive UK governments and local authorities have to be pointed out to them by a public figure living overseas.... 1 1 4
sandyf Posted January 13 Posted January 13 6 minutes ago, JonnyF said: How is it affecting UK Democracy? In which other countries will this be affected? And how? Are elections being cancelled by Musk? Musk asked X users on Sunday night whether the U.S. should “liberate the people of Britain from their tyrannical government.” https://www.cnbc.com/2025/01/06/elon-musk-asks-if-us-should-liberate-britain.html Stick to the point posted rather than making things up. 1
sandyf Posted January 13 Posted January 13 14 minutes ago, JonnyF said: I thought we were discussing Musk on X? You mean President Musk. 1
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