Slashing welfare': GOP eyes chopping $5 trillion to pay for Trump priorities — like tax cuts

[simple1]

So much for protecting the less fortunate...

 

House Republicans are circulating a “menu” of options that Speaker Mike Johnson’s conference could chose from—reportedly a massive $5 trillion worth of federal government programs to put on the chopping block to pay for the President-elect’s promised priorities, including tax cuts and border security.

 

'Slashing welfare': GOP eyes chopping $5 trillion to pay for Trump priorities — like tax cuts

[Isaan sailor]

Welfare is a good place to start.  There are multiple generations on public welfare—with absent fathers and higher welfare payments for each additional child.  President Clinton instituted a work for welfare program.  We should revisit the program.

[impulse]

12 minutes ago, Isaan sailor said:

Welfare is a good place to start.  There are multiple generations on public welfare—with absent fathers and higher welfare payments for each additional child.  President Clinton instituted a work for welfare program.  We should revisit the program.

 

I enjoy listening to Thomas Sowell about how the welfare state as it's currently structured absolutely devastates families, mostly Black families.  Though, I don't know if "enjoy" is an accurate word for being so disheartened by how bad it's been screwed up. 

 

Basically, my takeaway from his books and lectures is that the plight of Black families was improving rapidly in the USA from WW2, until the '60s and then the Great Society took pity on them and turned them into wards of the Gub'ment.

 

[candide]

1 hour ago, simple1 said:

So much for protecting the less fortunate...

 

House Republicans are circulating a “menu” of options that Speaker Mike Johnson’s conference could chose from—reportedly a massive $5 trillion worth of federal government programs to put on the chopping block to pay for the President-elect’s promised priorities, including tax cuts and border security.

 

'Slashing welfare': GOP eyes chopping $5 trillion to pay for Trump priorities — like tax cuts

The problem for GOP politicians is that their voters are also recipients of welfare. In particular in rural counties characterised by economic decline, which play a disproportionate role.in the U.S. electoral system and largely voted MAGA.

https://eig.org/great-transfermation/

 

Or will they find a way to indirectly target cuts selectively on Dem voters?

[SunnyinBangrak]

Living on welfare shouldn't be a career choice. As usual, and Im sure it hurts some to accept, but Trump is right. Again.

[candide]

1 hour ago, candide said:

The problem for GOP politicians is that their voters are also recipients of welfare. In particular in rural counties characterised by economic decline, which play a disproportionate role.in the U.S. electoral system and largely voted MAGA.

https://eig.org/great-transfermation/

 

Or will they find a way to indirectly target cuts selectively on Dem voters?

In particular, slashing the food stamp program will certainly be very popular among people who voted for Trump because they could not afford to put enough food on the table! 😆

 

Related information

https://www.socialexplorer.com/blog/post/political-explorer-counties-with-largest-increases-in-food-stamps-since-2010-went-for-trump-in-2020-13483

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/food-stamps-work-requirements-republican-bill-states-most-impacted/

[impulse]

52 minutes ago, candide said:

In particular, slashing the food stamp program will certainly be very popular among people who voted for Trump because they could not afford to put enough food on the table! 😆

 

Related information

https://www.socialexplorer.com/blog/post/political-explorer-counties-with-largest-increases-in-food-stamps-since-2010-went-for-trump-in-2020-13483

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/food-stamps-work-requirements-republican-bill-states-most-impacted/

 

 

My God.  Those heartless monsters...  Requiring people to actually get out of bed and work as a condition of getting free money...  My money.

 

 

I'm sure it won't be popular with some demographics, but they already vote Blue and always will, as long as they get promised free stuff.

 

[herfiehandbag]

They may save a lot of money, but they will also have to invest in a very large fleet of buses - to cope with the numbers of those who voted for them that they intend to throw under the buses!

[Lacessit]

No surprise welfare cuts should be in the mix.

 

It's surprising how many welfare recipients had to put their hand on the stove, before finding out it was hot.

 

Work for the dole simply creates a new bureaucracy to administer it.

[candide]

1 minute ago, impulse said:

 

 

My God.  Those monsters...  Requiring people to actually get out of bed and work as a condition of getting free money...  My money.

 

 

I'm sure it won't be popular with some demographics, but they already vote Blue and always will, as long as they get promised free stuff.

 

I have posted information showing that, contrary to MAGA beliefs,  Republican voters are also beneficiaries of welfare. It's true that there are more Dem recipients than Republican recipients, but Republican recipients are concentrated in rural counties which are critical for the GOP.

 

My point is that GOP politicians who have been elected in such counties may not be eager to shoot themselves in the foot, despite the dominant political discourse. 

[TedG]

4 hours ago, simple1 said:

So much for protecting the less fortunate...

 

House Republicans are circulating a “menu” of options that Speaker Mike Johnson’s conference could chose from—reportedly a massive $5 trillion worth of federal government programs to put on the chopping block to pay for the President-elect’s promised priorities, including tax cuts and border security.

 

'Slashing welfare': GOP eyes chopping $5 trillion to pay for Trump priorities — like tax cuts

That's five trillion over 10 years, which is 500 billion annually.  The current deficit is running close to two trillion.  Something needs to be cut.  

[simple1]

1 hour ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Living on welfare shouldn't be a career choice. As usual, and Im sure it hurts some to accept, but Trump is right. Again.

 

The projected $5 trillion is a hell of a lot of cuts to the various welfare / food assistance /medical system and so on. One hopes it's an error as the US welfare cost alone is one trillion dollars a year. One assumes they're talking to over a four timeline. Cannot imagine being on welfare being a "career choice".

[simple1]

5 minutes ago, TedG said:

That's five trillion over 10 years, which is 500 billion annually.  The current deficit is running close to two trillion.  Something needs to be cut.  

 

OK what about ceasing tax cuts for the well off (say those earing over $200k a year), rather than reducing welfare / Medicare.

[frank83628]

4 hours ago, simple1 said:

So much for protecting the less fortunate...

 

House Republicans are circulating a “menu” of options that Speaker Mike Johnson’s conference could chose from—reportedly a massive $5 trillion worth of federal government programs to put on the chopping block to pay for the President-elect’s promised priorities, including tax cuts and border security.

 

'Slashing welfare': GOP eyes chopping $5 trillion to pay for Trump priorities — like tax cuts

And what concern is that of you as an Australian citizen? 

[Highball]

Plenty to cut. My best friend in HS is/was gaming CA disability. Everyone not worth af is on disability in CA. I'd not spoken to him in 30 years. He was still living in the 70s.

 

Of course, so many places themselves in disability by their own lifestyle.

 

I probably missed less than five days of work in the 30 years of employment.

 

Tons of medical doctors commit fraud.

 

Keep social security pensions solvent cut the crap 👍

[TedG]

5 minutes ago, simple1 said:

 

OK what about ceasing tax cuts for the well off (say those earing over $200k a year), rather than reducing welfare / Medicare.

How much does that yield?   The fact is, the Democrats built a government that we can't afford. 

[GammaGlobulin]

48 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

No surprise welfare cuts should be in the mix.

 

It's surprising how many welfare recipients had to put their hand on the stove, before finding out it was hot.

 

Work for the dole simply creates a new bureaucracy to administer it.

 

There is now no real need for anyone to work who doesn't want to.

 

Might as well just give everyone a guaranteed income, something Bucky suggested decades ago.

 

I am still in love with Buckminster Fuller and his Buckyballs, anyway.

 

 

[MalcolmB]

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

No surprise welfare cuts should be in the mix.

 

It's surprising how many welfare recipients had to put their hand on the stove, before finding out it was hot.

 

Work for the dole simply creates a new bureaucracy to administer it.

Don’t you live off welfare?

[CallumWK]

I'm sure the Aussie OP already regrets he started this thread, because it's backfiring big time, since those cuts are actually a good thing in reducing the deficit, something Trump promised in his campaign.

The democrats were giving money away to get votes, which is unsustainable in the long term. A country doesn't run on freeloaders.