Looking at Lazada's cheapo laptops with Ryzen 7 chips - anyone bought one?

[cliveshep]

As the title says my Dell Latitude is probably 14 or 15 years old now, is giving me problems and needs replacing. I've nursed it along but in the last 9 years here it's had 2 new keyboards imported from Latvia of all places, a new HDD - big pain that was losing most of my files - new RAM, 3 replacement screens, replacement cooling fan, replacement USB ports (I didn't do those as they had to be soldered onto the motherboard) and has had to be stripped to a shell and cleaned twice. It now has developed a habit of hanging with message "not responding" which is annoying. It has got to go!

 

I'm 79 so no more Dell's etc as it won't be me who gets use out of them. I read that a 500GB SSD is good, and 16GB ram and a Ryzen 7 CPU is also great. I also want 15.6 screen.

 

Lazada got some seriously cheap new lappies from China, meaning under thb10000, the totally unheard of Mirval F7 range. That is not pocket money still but even so is cheap Chinese electronics but the specs are good and the AMD Ryzen7 5400 is reckoned to be very good. I don't do gaming, spend most days watching movies or YouTube, write occasional letters, and do internet banking, but I figure that so long as it has no spyware included with its OS (Windows 11 Pro) it's worth a punt.

 

Has anyone bought one? If so does it perform ok? I figure most of it's bits are likely to be generic if it goes wrong - China making most pc bits for everyone these days.

 

[ignis]

Many of the cheaper Windows 11  PC/Laptops   state " Operating System: Windows 11 Home Single Language"

 

Maybe good ? in Big C  Acer Ryzen 3 - 15.6" 1920x1080  Laptop  Windows 11 Home Single Language  7,995 baht Promotion ??

 

in all the years I have had  PC/Laptops  all have been AMD

 

Yes these days both AMD and Intel CPUs are made in China

[cliveshep]

1 minute ago, ignis said:

Many of the cheaper Windows 11  PC/Laptops   state " Operating System: Windows 11 Home Single Language"

 

Maybe good ? in Big C  Acer Ryzen 3 - 15.6" 1920x1080  Laptop  Windows 11 Home Single Language  7,990 baht ??

 

in all the years I have had  PC/Laptops  all have been AMD

 

Yes these days both AMD and Intel CPUs are made in China

Lazada have this one for thb5499.55 - Arecor F7แล็ปท็อปคอมพิวเตอร์สำหรับเล่นเกม240Hz 2.5K 15.6 ''Ips AMD Ryzen R7 5700U 8แกน CPU 4.3กิกะเฮิร์ตซ์16กิกะไบต์ DDR4 512กิกะไบต์ SSD 9000มิลลิแอมป์ชั่วโมงโน๊ตบุ๊ค - so thb2500 cheaper than Big C and far higher specs. Pre-installed Windows 11 Pro so no language problems and it has a dual English/Thai keyboard. 

[cliveshep]

29 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

"cheapo lappies"

Do millennials talk like that? 

You got that wrong pal, I was born in 1945!

[stupidfarang]

Suggest go with a SSD hard drive as they are better for storage, speed, higher durability, and lower power consumption. Also go for 32GB ram, has a smoother running and can run more applications at the same time, better for straming movies as well

[WorriedNoodle]

10 hours ago, cliveshep said:

Has anyone bought one? If so does it perform ok? I figure most of it's bits are likely to be generic if it goes wrong - China making most pc bits for everyone these days.

I've not bought any lappies, but bought some cheap Chinese mini PC(-ies) with legit Win11 Pro o/s for under 5000THB, built in SSD. They work just fine and I would have no hesitation buying a laptop also these days, very good value for money.

[CharlieH]

Off topic nonsense removed

 

[CharlieH]

OP, you may find this topic useful.....

 

 

[cliveshep]

16 minutes ago, stupidfarang said:

Suggest go with a SSD hard drive as they are better for storage, speed, higher durability, and lower power consumption. Also go for 32GB ram, has a smoother running and can run more applications at the same time, better for straming movies as well

The ones quoted are all 16GB machines, I suppose the ram could be expanded but I don't do gaming and doubt my modest requirements would warrant expansion. They do have a 500GB SSD though. I got Netflix but tend not to use it, my son pays for it and gives my free use but TBH what I do is look at what is on offer and download what takes my fancy from elsewhere and delete when watched. More convenient than streaming.

[cliveshep]

11 minutes ago, WorriedNoodle said:

I've not bought any lappies, but bought some cheap Chinese mini PC(-ies) with legit Win11 Pro o/s for under 5000THB, built in SSD. They work just fine and I would have no hesitation buying a laptop also these days, very good value for money.

Well, that's encouraging, thank you for that, much appreciated.

[cliveshep]

Charlie H - thanks, I saw that and did skim through but it didn't directly address my concerns about cheap Chinese products so started a new thread.

[Gottfrid]

1 hour ago, cliveshep said:

Lazada have this one for thb5499.55 - Arecor F7แล็ปท็อปคอมพิวเตอร์สำหรับเล่นเกม240Hz 2.5K 15.6 ''Ips AMD Ryzen R7 5700U 8แกน CPU 4.3กิกะเฮิร์ตซ์16กิกะไบต์ DDR4 512กิกะไบต์ SSD 9000มิลลิแอมป์ชั่วโมงโน๊ตบุ๊ค - so thb2500 cheaper than Big C and far higher specs. Pre-installed Windows 11 Pro so no language problems and it has a dual English/Thai keyboard. 

I wouldn´t go for any of the specs for such a low price. Usually a laptop with that price only have a maximum of 8 gb ram and would also have a slower CPU. Also the 250Hz on the screen bothers me for such low price. I think they bumped up the specs, and you will get lower.

I would look in Advice shops instead. They usually offer good price, holds the specs and give great service. You will pay more, but you get the quality.

[Marcous]

1 hour ago, cliveshep said:

Lazada has this one for thb5499.55 - Arecor F7 Gaming Laptop 240Hz 2.5K 15.6'' Ips AMD Ryzen R7 5700U 8 Core CPU 4.3GHz 16GB DDR4 512GB SSD 9000mAh Notebook - so thb2500 cheaper than Big C and far higher specs. Pre-installed Windows 11 Pro so no language problems and it has a dual English/Thai keyboard. 

According to UserBenchmark, the Ryzen 3 is a much faster CPU. However, I guess it depends on which Ryzen 3 it is. 

 

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-3-3300X-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-5700U/4076vsm1482042

[NanLaew]

if it's too good to be true...

 

caveat emptor...

 

etc...

 

etc...

[OneMoreFarang]

1 hour ago, cliveshep said:

You got that wrong pal, I was born in 1945!

So, by now you are almost 1000 years old. 😉 

[spidermike007]

I only buy electronics and televisions from big box stores where they offer warranty service and they offer recourse in the event of issues. With a Lazada vendor it's like buying from MBK, if you need the service you have no idea if you're going to get it.

 

I have purchased things on Lazada where the vendor would not stand behind them just a few months later. I only buy small ticket items on Lazada from now on. 

[cjinchiangrai]

I have always used AMD chips. They work just fine. The Ryzen 7 5400 is an excellent chip if you are not an extreme gamer. Memory and an add-on video card will be more important but the RAM is an easy upgrade. I like a SSD card slot along with a 2.5" hard drive slot configuration. 256mb is plenty for the SSD but then get a 2gb HDD.

[Centigrade32]

5 hours ago, cliveshep said:

Lazada have this one for thb5499.55 - Arecor F7แล็ปท็อปคอมพิวเตอร์สำหรับเล่นเกม240Hz 2.5K 15.6 ''Ips AMD Ryzen R7 5700U 8แกน CPU 4.3กิกะเฮิร์ตซ์16กิกะไบต์ DDR4 512กิกะไบต์ SSD 9000มิลลิแอมป์ชั่วโมงโน๊ตบุ๊ค - so thb2500 cheaper than Big C and far higher specs. Pre-installed Windows 11 Pro so no language problems and it has a dual English/Thai keyboard. 

 

Are you drunken? 😊 That's entirely fake.

The official price for that laptop is 15k and there isn't an official distributor in Thailand and even the specifications stated from that official outlet are fake(read the reviews). https://www.lazada.sg/products/2024-newmirval-f7-laptop-240hz-25k-156-ips-amd-ryzen-r7-5700u-8-cores-cpu-16gb-ddr4-512gb-ssd-9000mah-notebook-i2987686323.html

Stop trying to be cheap in trying to get something for nothing. Buy a second hand Latitude or Thinkpad if you don't want to spend much.

But stop dreaming about that device for 5.5k. 

 

[Centigrade32]

4 hours ago, Marcous said:

According to UserBenchmark, the Ryzen 3 is a much faster CPU. However, I guess it depends on which Ryzen 3 it is. 

 

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-3-3300X-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-5700U/4076vsm1482042

 

But it's a Ryzen 3 7320U...

[Centigrade32]

6 hours ago, ignis said:

Maybe good ? in Big C  Acer Ryzen 3 - 15.6" 1920x1080  Laptop  Windows 11 Home Single Language  7,995 baht Promotion ??

 

Not actually available for purchase.

[cliveshep]

Seems most buyer problems come from Windows not updating due probably to fake licence key, the hardware seems to work fine with the chief complainer identified above grouching about wi-fi and bluetooth. For me - if it works then it's ok, I only want to use it at home with our very fast fibre BB and if it won't operate on the inbuilt wi-fi there is also a dongle one can use. Also I got cable I can use for the internet. Just need to think about dodgy Windows licence key issues, not sure I want to go down the keygen route.

[cliveshep]

Microsoft say I can update from Windows 10 for free so I guess if I transfer my Windows 10 from the Dell to a new machine I can then do a genuine Windows 11 free update?

[Centigrade32]

51 minutes ago, cliveshep said:

Seems most buyer problems come from Windows not updating due probably to fake licence key, the hardware seems to work fine with the chief complainer identified above grouching about wi-fi and bluetooth. For me - if it works then it's ok, I only want to use it at home with our very fast fibre BB and if it won't operate on the inbuilt wi-fi there is also a dongle one can use. Also I got cable I can use for the internet. Just need to think about dodgy Windows licence key issues, not sure I want to go down the keygen route.

 

Still not ready to let go of the fantasy?  Post the address link of the place from where you plan to buy it. 

[Centigrade32]

15 minutes ago, cliveshep said:

Microsoft say I can update from Windows 10 for free so I guess if I transfer my Windows 10 from the Dell to a new machine I can then do a genuine Windows 11 free update?

 

No and no.

[Seppius]

100% Don't buy it from China, get it here from somewhere you can take it back

[arick]

When you find one can you please call my mom and tell her all a out it.

[howto]

No Way it could be <6K Baht.

I've been looking here for a AM5 Ryzen 7 (or 9).  Just the CPU (with iGPU), 32GB DDR5 Ram, Mobo, nothing else, and can't get below $500.

[Skeptic7]

Buy from Amazon. MUCH much cheaper. For a genuine item, that is. For the prices being discussed here...they're fake, copied crap. 

[CLW]

1 hour ago, Skeptic7 said:

Buy from Amazon. MUCH much cheaper. For a genuine item, that is. For the prices being discussed here...they're fake, copied crap. 

Good luck for returns, warranties or refunds. This is Thailand, not the US 

[Colki]

Yes, be very aware when buying through Lazada. I supposedly bought a Lenovo Thinkpad that had been reduced in price and then advised there was a short delay as had to come direct from Lenovo factory. Result was I got some crap no brand laptop that I replaced by going to a local vendor and buying the genuine article.

 

I am aware I could have returned laptop through Lazada but while it was in transit I needed to make an urgent trip overseas for several weeks and they would not do so after my return. Lesson learnt will never buy larger ticket item through Lazada as in reality this was total deception by the vendor.