Guidance please on Non O application from UK

[Wyabcp]

Hi,

I'm in the process of being made redundant, my last day in employment will be end of February. I plan to retire to Bangkok, and travel there straight after I leave work. I'm looking at the E visa Non O application, and have a couple of questions

 

Will I need to  have booked a return/onward flight leaving within the initial 90 days ? even though I plan to stay and apply for the 1 year extension...

Proof of earnings or proof of 800K Baht in bank. Can this be one of the savings accounts, and is a photo or electronic copy of screen shot adequate ?

Proof of address in UK, is photo of driving license ok for this ?

 

many thanks

 

[DrJack54]

15 minutes ago, Wyabcp said:

Will I need to  have booked a return/onward flight leaving within the initial 90 days ?

No.

 

Re your other questions.

Do you have a Thai bank account in your name only? 

 

[Wyabcp]

20 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

No.

 

Re your other questions.

Do you have a Thai bank account in your name only? 

 

Ah, no i don't, I might be doing something wrong , I didn't think you required a Thai bank account for the initial 3 month visa when applying online ? I thought it was just your current/recent earnings in the UK

 

[DrJack54]

6 minutes ago, Wyabcp said:

Ah, no i don't, I might be doing something wrong , I didn't think you required a Thai bank account for the initial 3 month visa when applying online ? I thought it was just your current/recent earnings in the UK

 

You can obtain eVisa Non O in UK without Thai bank account.

 

Reason I ask is opening a Thai bank account from visa exempt entry is not easy.

You enter with Non O and receive a 90 day stamp.

The Non O status will enable you to open Thai bank account easily.

So good plan. 

 

The other benefit is that for 12 month extension the funds do not need to be shown from abroad.

 

BTW: Wise is good option for transfer if you haven't looked into that.

[Wyabcp]

1 minute ago, DrJack54 said:

You can obtain eVisa Non O in UK without Thai bank account.

 

Reason I ask is opening a Thai bank account from visa exempt entry is not easy.

You enter with Non O and receive a 90 day stamp.

The Non O status will enable you to open Thai bank account easily.

So good plan. 

 

The other benefit is that for 12 month extension the funds do not need to be shown from abroad.

 

BTW: Wise is good option for transfer if you haven't looked into that.

This is great, thanks for the info, I was concerned about not having a return ticket as the I've heard at the UK airport they might raise this as an issue.

Just to clarify regarding the eVisa non O in UK, I do need to show UK bank statement with the 800K Baht ? can this be a savings account ?

 

[DrJack54]

12 minutes ago, Wyabcp said:

This is great, thanks for the info, I was concerned about not having a return ticket as the I've heard at the UK airport they might raise this as an issue.

Just to clarify regarding the eVisa non O in UK, I do need to show UK bank statement with the 800K Baht ? can this be a savings account ?

 

At departure UK airport onward flight not required by airline as you have a Visa.

Flying visa exempt is another matter.

 

The UK bank statement does not need to be 800k baht. 

It's much lower. 

Someone will post first hand eVisa UK for Thailand financial requirements.

 

Here is recent thread and financials posted early in thread.

https://aseannow.com/topic/1325310-applying-in-uk-for-non-o/

 

[Wyabcp]

1 hour ago, DrJack54 said:

At departure UK airport onward flight not required by airline as you have a Visa.

Flying visa exempt is another matter.

 

The UK bank statement does not need to be 800k baht. 

It's much lower. 

Someone will post first hand eVisa UK for Thailand financial requirements.

 

Understood... thanks

This is what's shown on the "supporting documents point 4", "4 . Financial evidence showing monthly income of no less than 65,000 THB or having the current balance of 800,000 THB, e.g. bank statements, proof of earnings " 😕

[DrJack54]

5 hours ago, Wyabcp said:

,...or having the current balance of 800,000 THB, e.g. bank statements.....

In that case need to show 800b equivalent in your bank account.

In any event you will need the 800k in your Thai bank account when you open the bank account.

To apply for the 12 month extension you require the 800k in the account for min 2 months.

 

Income method is not an option as UK embassy does not provide "income letter"

[jojothai]

18 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

Here is recent thread and financials posted early in thread.

https://aseannow.com/topic/1325310-applying-in-uk-for-non-o/

 

Hi Dr Jack54 and other people reading this thread.

I looked at the post referred, and note that somebody said in the thread in 2024 that thai embassy document requirements had been slimmed down.

I am trying to change from a non-b (based on work permit) to 90 day non-o for marriage. In theory I should be able to, but hua hin immigration say that they do not do it,and i will have to go out of country.

 

I may need to go the UK to get the non-o for marriage and need to check any update on marriage certificate requirements.

The Thai embassy website states the requirement as follows:

"Proof of relationship to a family in Thailand, eg a copy of marriage certificate / birth certificate / certificate of adoption".

I had a marriage to my thai wife in uk and have the marriage certificate and a translation into thai.
But also, I have recently got the marriage registered in the amphur and now have the kor sor 22.

Previously some time ago the thai embassy required a UK marriage certificate to be certified in the UK by FCO and certified by them.

But if I already now have a korsor22 marriage registered in Thailand, then that may not be necessary.

Does anybody know or have experience recently with similar at the uk thai embassy and can they confirm for the uk marriage / certification requirements in uk.
I will have to send a query to the thai embassy, but would be grateful for any knowledge  by others. 

 

 

 

 

[sandyf]

18 hours ago, Wyabcp said:

This is great, thanks for the info, I was concerned about not having a return ticket as the I've heard at the UK airport they might raise this as an issue.

Just to clarify regarding the eVisa non O in UK, I do need to show UK bank statement with the 800K Baht ? can this be a savings account ?

 

I have returned to Thailand a few times with new visa on the return leg of a 2 way ticket, not a problem.

When you come to make the application it may say a bank statement or proof £10,000 is required. This is a left over from the days of the 1 year ME visa option, many have got the visa on much less. I believe someone was told by the embassy that something over £1000 was required for the 90 days. The funds for the visa can be located anywhere, be careful not to get distracted by the requirements for an extension which for some reason have appeared in the guidance.

When you make the application there are a set of questions that you will need to upload an answer.  If you have difficulty or unable to answer, write a note to the effect and upload that. You cannot move on to the next section if there is an upload missing.

Good luck

[DrJack54]

8 minutes ago, jojothai said:

 

I may need to go the UK to get the non-o for marriage and need to check any update on marriage certificate requirements.

You wouldn't need to go back to UK (unless you wanted). You have Kor ror 22. 

 

You can exit Thailand and reenter visa exempt and obtain a Non O marriage then subsequent 12 month extension. 

You appear to have all bases covered re required docs for marriage to Thai.

Plenty of married guys (UK) in the forum can provide advice. 

[sandyf]

12 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

In that case need to show 800b equivalent in your bank account.

In any event you will need the 800k in your Thai bank account when you open the bank account.

To apply for the 12 month extension you require the 800k in the account for min 2 months.

 

Income method is not an option as UK embassy does not provide "income letter"

You are out of context, an E-visa can be obtained in the UK based on income. I know someone who does it every year on his pension.

Also in Thailand the absence of an embassy letter does not rule out the income method.

[DrJack54]

2 minutes ago, sandyf said:

I know someone who does it every year on his pension.

Also in Thailand the absence of an embassy letter does not rule out the income method.

The OP will be obtaining his first extension from from his Non O retirement eVisa.

The OP does not even have a Thai bank account in his name only.

He can obtain one after he enters Thailand.

He certainly will not be able to show 12 month of 65k transfers.

He will for first extension be using money in bank method.

 

[jojothai]

2 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

You wouldn't need to go back to UK (unless you wanted). You have Kor ror 22. 

 

You can exit Thailand and reenter visa exempt and obtain a Non O marriage then subsequent 12 month extension. 

You appear to have all bases covered re required docs for marriage to Thai.

Plenty of married guys (UK) in the forum can provide advice. 

thanks, understood and i agree. I have that as my number 2 alternative and likely to be easiest.
First i will go to Chaeng Wattana and see if they will change the Non-b to non-o marriage with the korsor 22.

I know that it is possible, but they may still ask for all the certification requirements on our marriage certificate. I do not have them.

I only have the certificate and translation. The amphur accepted them to do the korsor 22..
I need to know if the marriage certifications are going to be a problem, because i could still face the issue for the 12 month extension later.

I am still currently registered as living in Bangkok (part time work for another two months),

will change to hua hin as soon as i can depending what CW say.

[DrJack54]

9 minutes ago, jojothai said:

First i will go to Chaeng Wattana and see if they will change the Non-b to non-o marriage with the korsor 22.

I know that it is possible, but they may still ask for all the certification requirements on our marriage certificate. I do not have them.

I only have the certificate and translation. The amphur accepted them to do the korsor 22..

Good plan. 

Change from Non B to based on marriage in this thread.

 

[jojothai]

20 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Good plan. 

Change from Non B to based on marriage in this thread.

 

Thanks again. will look at this.

[Wyabcp]

14 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

In that case need to show 800b equivalent in your bank account.

In any event you will need the 800k in your Thai bank account when you open the bank account.

To apply for the 12 month extension you require the 800k in the account for min 2 months.

 

Income method is not an option as UK embassy does not provide "income letter"

ok thanks, that's as I expected. I presume a statement from a savings account would be sufficient ?

[DrJack54]

1 hour ago, sandyf said:

You are out of context, an E-visa can be obtained in the UK based on income. I know someone who does it every year on his pension.

Say what. The OP requires ONE non O eVisa to enter Thailand and from there ongoing extensions.

 

He does not plan on obtaining a Non O each year.

 

Bit irrelevant what he provides  financial wise for his Non O.

His plan is to retire in Thailand with ongoing extensions will require 800k in bank for 2 months 

If he decides to change to extensions using income he can run both money in bank and transfers for one year and change over.

In fact I'm doing that now..

[Wyabcp]

Appreciate everyone's help with this... I got a little confused by the off topic conversation about getting married lol

[Tim16]

I have applied many times for Retirement Non O evisa to London Embassy

Many years ago they only required proof that you were in receipt of UK pension, but now they want detailed financial information.

 

From me in October Other request documents: -Your recent UK/Ireland bank statement shows your name, address, monthly income/pension transactions of no less than (approx. £1,500) for 3 months or having the current balance of (approx. £18,000). Bank statement should be within last 3 months.

They will not accept screen shots.

 

[DrJack54]

13 minutes ago, Tim16 said:

.....or having the current balance of (approx. £18,000). Bank statement should be within last 3 months.

Some posts have distracted from the OP.

He is actually still working.

 

Obviously the best (simple) option for him is money in the bank. 

He will need to transfer those funds to Thai bank account after entering Thailand and opening bank account 

[Wyabcp]

2 hours ago, Tim16 said:

I have applied many times for Retirement Non O evisa to London Embassy

Many years ago they only required proof that you were in receipt of UK pension, but now they want detailed financial information.

 

From me in October Other request documents: -Your recent UK/Ireland bank statement shows your name, address, monthly income/pension transactions of no less than (approx. £1,500) for 3 months or having the current balance of (approx. £18,000). Bank statement should be within last 3 months.

They will not accept screen shots.

 

I have the funds in an online savings account, enough to cover the £18K. Would downloading a PDF statement be ok ? I have to ask the bank to send paper copy and then take photo of it ?

thanks

[Tim16]

Downloaded statement should be OK as long as it shows name and address. They accepted downloaded pdf statements for my application

[Briggsy]

@Wyabcp

 

You may find with a savings account, statements are annual. The statement needs to be recent for the application. This may cause you an issue. e.g. if the last statement is 7 months ago. If this is the case, the embassy are flexible if you lay out the situation for them in a polite covering letter.

 

With respect to proof of address, they may want utility bill too.

[DrJack54]

On 1/16/2025 at 8:22 PM, Wyabcp said:

Proof of address in UK, is photo of driving license ok for this ?

Yes.

Also thinking some have just uploaded ID (photo page) of UK passport. 

Does not show address however does not need to. 

[Jaggg88]

20 hours ago, jojothai said:

Hi Dr Jack54 and other people reading this thread.

I looked at the post referred, and note that somebody said in the thread in 2024 that thai embassy document requirements had been slimmed down.

I am trying to change from a non-b (based on work permit) to 90 day non-o for marriage. In theory I should be able to, but hua hin immigration say that they do not do it,and i will have to go out of country.

 

I may need to go the UK to get the non-o for marriage and need to check any update on marriage certificate requirements.

The Thai embassy website states the requirement as follows:

"Proof of relationship to a family in Thailand, eg a copy of marriage certificate / birth certificate / certificate of adoption".

I had a marriage to my thai wife in uk and have the marriage certificate and a translation into thai.
But also, I have recently got the marriage registered in the amphur and now have the kor sor 22.

Previously some time ago the thai embassy required a UK marriage certificate to be certified in the UK by FCO and certified by them.

But if I already now have a korsor22 marriage registered in Thailand, then that may not be necessary.

Does anybody know or have experience recently with similar at the uk thai embassy and can they confirm for the uk marriage / certification requirements in uk.
I will have to send a query to the thai embassy, but would be grateful for any knowledge  by others. 

 

 

 

 

For the annual extension, my office (Nakhon Sawan) asks for my embassy/MFA certified translation of my UK marriage certificate. I had our marriage certificate legalised, translated, and then approved by the UK Embassy, so it wasn't a problem for me. We also have kor sor 22 which they were quite happy with 4 years ago but for the last 3 years they wanted a copy of the UK translated certificate as well. I had to return to the UK at short notice last year and couldn't renew my extension and had to obtain a new non O. I just used the kor sor 22 but your extension may be a different matter.

[Jaggg88]

15 hours ago, Wyabcp said:

I have the funds in an online savings account, enough to cover the £18K. Would downloading a PDF statement be ok ? I have to ask the bank to send paper copy and then take photo of it ?

thanks

I downloaded PDFs but they wouldn't upload so printed them off and took photos which uploaded without any issues

[sandyf]

23 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

The OP will be obtaining his first extension from from his Non O retirement eVisa.

The OP does not even have a Thai bank account in his name only.

He can obtain one after he enters Thailand.

He certainly will not be able to show 12 month of 65k transfers.

He will for first extension be using money in bank method.

 

You didn't read what was posted.

You responded to a reference by the OP to the guidance from the embassy on E-visas, nothing to do with extensions.

The embassy should refrain from posting the Thai requirements,  every time it gets mentioned someone gets the wrong end of the stick and starts talking about extensions.

This is what the OP was asking about.

1. Financial evidence showing monthly income of no less than 65,000 THB (£1,500) or having the current balance of 800,000 THB (£18,000), e.g. bank statements, proof of earnings
   - Applicant’s recent official UK/Ireland bank statement shows your name, address (Screenshots are not accepted). For monthly income of last 3 months no less than £1,500/ month.   https://london.thaiembassy.org/en/page/retirement-visa

[DrJack54]

11 minutes ago, sandyf said:

Financial evidence showing monthly income of no less than 65,000 THB (£1,500) or having the current balance of 800,000 THB (£18,000), e.g. bank statements, proof of earnings

And I pointed out that since the OP will be transferring 800k baht to his Thai bank account as soon as he opens the account

His best option is to simply have £18k in his UK bank account for the eVisa application and ready to transfer to Thailand.

 

It's indeed related to plan to obtain extension. 

 

[jojothai]

6 hours ago, Jaggg88 said:

For the annual extension, my office (Nakhon Sawan) asks for my embassy/MFA certified translation of my UK marriage certificate. I had our marriage certificate legalised, translated, and then approved by the UK Embassy, so it wasn't a problem for me. We also have kor sor 22 which they were quite happy with 4 years ago but for the last 3 years they wanted a copy of the UK translated certificate as well. I had to return to the UK at short notice last year and couldn't renew my extension and had to obtain a new non O. I just used the kor sor 22 but your extension may be a different matter.

Thanks. Its starting to look as if a KorSor 22 may be ok, but its risky applying for non-o in uk without the legalised, etc translation.

I will try to find out next week what Chaeng Wattana ask for here to change directly to Non-O 90 day.
However I suspect i will have to get the legalisation of marriage certificate etc done in the UK.