Midair Collision Near Reagan National Sends Plane into Potomac River

[Yagoda]

9 hours ago, Walker88 said:

In a WH Press conference, long before any actual investigation and cause has been determined by actual experts, the new President has decided the DEI policies of the previous Administration are at fault for the crash.

 

That is cold, and based on nothing. The clown has no clue what ATC officers were on duty, nor their background nor why and how they were appointed. He just has decided to use a tragedy as yet another political attack on anyone who isn't him.

 

He's an absolutely vile excuse for a human being. Imagine how his idiotic comments have hurt family members of the deceased.

Imagine how many Jewish people visit this Board and see your username worship of your hero Hitler.

 

For those who want to see the state of the skies in America:

 

https://justthenews.com/sites/default/files/2025-01/NAS_safety_review_team_report.pdf

 

 

[Eric Loh]

What a train wreck under Trump and it is only 2 weeks old. Those who vote for him are getting their pang of buyer's remorse as he continue to divide the nation and alienate allies for the next 4 years. 

[ElwoodP]

Troll post and reply removed.

Keep it polite and civil please.

[spidermike007]

The Blackhawk was totally responsible and it was an astonishing and horrific mistake. Hegseth should answer for this. The buck now stops with this incompetent. 

[WorriedNoodle]

8 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Yes he's a great man.

I thought more along the lines of that he's the lowest form of life to hold a conference like that for his own gain and points scoring.

[JonnyF]

1 minute ago, WorriedNoodle said:

I thought more along the lines of that he's the lowest form of life to hold a conference like that for his own gain and points scoring.

 

Yes it seems we have a difference of opinion. 

 

Never mind. 

[lordgrinz]

This tidbit doesn't bode well, maybe helicopters should steer clear of busy airports designed for airline traffic.

 

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"Wednesday's crash came just 24 hours after a near miss between another commercial jet and a helicopter at Reagan National."

 

[brewsterbudgen]

18 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

Yes he's a great man.

 

I'm sure he will get to the bottom of this tragedy and fix whatever caused it. 

 

The adults are back in the room but the children made a hell of a mess. 

He really isn't, you know.  Or were you joking?

[Yagoda]

11 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

What a train wreck under Trump and it is only 2 weeks old. Those who vote for him are getting their pang of buyer's remorse as he continue to divide the nation and alienate allies for the next 4 years. 

I dont know any buyers remorse, care to give us some examples?

[KhunLA]

10 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

What a train wreck under Trump and it is only 2 weeks old. Those who vote for him are getting their pang of buyer's remorse as he continue to divide the nation and alienate allies for the next 4 years. 

Let me guess ... you think the crash was Trump's fault 

[JonnyF]

3 minutes ago, lordgrinz said:

This tidbit doesn't bode well, maybe helicopters should steer clear of busy airports designed for airline traffic.

 

 

 

Yes standards can slip under weak and incompetent leadership.

 

I'm sure Trump will sort this immediately. 

[Yagoda]

10 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

The Blackhawk was totally responsible and it was an astonishing and horrific mistake. Hegseth should answer for this. The buck now stops with this incompetent. 

Yeah hes had a whole day. 

 

Possibly the dumbest comment from a Trump Deranger ever and that says a lot.

[Nid_Noi]

8 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

The Blackhawk was totally responsible and it was an astonishing and horrific mistake. Hegseth should answer for this. The buck now stops with this incompetent. 

Maybe Hegseth should have grounded all military operations until a total review of the aircrews qualifications. Then he would have been accused of putting the nation in danger due to lack of readiness. In this kind of debate you never win.

[JonnyF]

2 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Let me guess ... you think the crash was Trump's fault 

 

They'll find a way to blame Trump for everything.

 

James O'Brien somehow even managed to twist the southport killings back to Trump 😆.

 

https://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/2004135/lbc-james-o-brien-disgusting-southport-comment

 

[morrobay]

Sure the lights at night can be confusing. But the question is why was the helicopter at almost 400 ft.? The helicopter could have passed under the jet had the helicopter been at the proper 200 ft.  So how do three experiencerd crew members allow the helicopter to be almost 200 ft too high?

[JonnyF]

5 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

He really isn't, you know.  Or were you joking?

 

No I was deadly serious.

 

If only Britain had such a great man, we might not be in the state we are currently in under Labour. 

[Eric Loh]

2 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Let me guess ... you think the crash was Trump's fault 

Common sense tell me to wait for the full investigation conclusion. 

[Nid_Noi]

9 minutes ago, lordgrinz said:

This tidbit doesn't bode well, maybe helicopters should steer clear of busy airports designed for airline traffic.

 

 

Do you expect all these DC VIPs to crawl with the traffic among the populace at rush hours to get to their private or chartered jets?

[lordgrinz]

Just now, Nid_Noi said:

Do you expect all these DC VIPs to crawl with the traffic among the populace at rush hours to get to their private or chartered jets?

 

I know, but obviously flying helicopters through flight paths and landing zones for airliners at a busy airport isn't working out to well. The military helicopters should for now on ask for clearance before entering, and hold until given the OK to proceed.

[Eric Loh]

8 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

They'll find a way to blame Trump for everything.

 

Happened under his watch. FAA head resigned under his watch. He initiated the blame game. 

[johnnybangkok]

43 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

Certainly seems like human error. My guess is he/she/they/them were looking at the wrong plane, thought were at a safe distance and crashed into the other one. 

 

But let's wait and see. Hopefully the crew were hired based on their ability to do the job and not to fill some stupid quota. Trump appears to have information that suggests the latter. 

 

RIP the victims. 

Just exactly when will your absolute and utter devotion to this man ever result in the slightest bit of criticism of some of the things he does and says? 'Trump appears to have information that suggests the latter." How on earth can you know that? He hasn't produced a single fact to suggest anything of the sort but your default mode always goes to "Trump knows best".

Criticism where criticism is due is a healthy way to be, especially when it comes to world leaders but this utter devotion to a single man regardless of facts or evidence means you Trump fan boys can see no wrong. It truly is disturbing.  

[lordgrinz]

2 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

Just exactly when will your absolute and utter devotion to this man ever result in the slightest bit of criticism of some of the things he does and says? 'Trump appears to have information that suggests the latter." How on earth can you know that? He hasn't produced a single fact to suggest anything of the sort but your default mode always goes to "Trump knows best".

Criticism where criticism is due is a healthy way to be, especially when it comes to world leaders but this utter devotion to a single man regardless of facts or evidence means you Trump fan boys can see no wrong. It truly is disturbing.  

 

I'm still trying to figure out how a plane crash article has turned into a political soapbox. 

[johnnybangkok]

4 minutes ago, lordgrinz said:

 

I'm still trying to figure out how a plane crash article has turned into a political soapbox. 

Exactly. A devastating tragedy but thanks to Trump, it's now all about DEI hires when there's absolutely no evidence to support this ascertion  (and I very much doubt there ever will be).

 

Expert more of this though in the choas that will be 4 years of Trump.
 

[FritsSikkink]

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

Seems Trump has more information than the experts on here.

 

I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to learn that discriminatory DEI hiring practices led to someone getting a job they were not qualified for, but let's wait and see. 

 

DEI - Discriminatory Erroneous Idiots.

Trump thinks he is the expert in everything but in reality he is dumb as f.....

[Nid_Noi]

5 minutes ago, morrobay said:

Sure the lights at night can be confusing. But the question is why was the helicopter at almost 400 ft.? The helicopter could have passed under the jet had the helicopter been at the proper 200 ft.  So how do three experiencerd crew members allow the helicopter to be almost 200 ft too high?

Yes it’s a fact but I don’t understand why the traffic is allowed over the eastern shore of the Potomac when runway 33 is active.

Also in case of an imminent collision ATC instructions should have been: « PAT 25 turn heading 90 degrees NOW » or « PAT 25 hold position NOW » but you don’t ask the pilot if he has the CRJ700 in sight when both are flying on a collision course.

Flying in a busy class B airspace at night in rush hours is very challenging even when cleared by ATC. Hundreds of lights of different colours are blinking (aircrafts, buildings, monuments, transmission towers, emergency vehicles, etc…) so what distinguishes an aircraft from other obstacles, the starboard green light and the port red light at the wing tip added to the mandatory landing lights. So based on trajectories the helicopter pilot should have recognized the green light and the landing lights.

I don’t know if military helicopters are TCAS equipped but flying in class B airspace they should.

[Patong2021]

23 hours ago, lordgrinz said:

Why on earth would a military aircraft be crossing the path of an inbound aircraft in commercial airspace near an airport?!

 

Because there is a military airbase adjacent to the airport and this is  congested airspace. Every year there are multiple near misses.

The closed airspace of a large part of DC compounds the congestion issue.

[herfiehandbag]

1 hour ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

Trump literally said at the WH meeting he did not know all the facts and was offering his opinion on what went wrong. That he then ranted off on his DEI BS along with his lapdog VP on the same agenda says a lot for the people who support such a vile and inappropriate response when they still haven't pulled all the bodies out of the river.

Yes, it says an awful lot about both the President and Vice President of the United States!

 

The Dignity of the Office and all that...

[Eric Loh]

40 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

I dont know any buyers remorse, care to give us some examples?

Check his job approval rating. Sub-50% placing him below all other elected Presidents. 

[lordgrinz]

10 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

Exactly. A devastating tragedy but thanks to Trump, it's now all about DEI hires when there's absolutely no evidence to support this ascertion  (and I very much doubt there ever will be).

 

Expert more of this though in the choas that will be 4 years of Trump.
 

 

You sound like a broken record.

[TedG]

31 minutes ago, Nid_Noi said:

Do you expect all these DC VIPs to crawl with the traffic among the populace at rush hours to get to their private or chartered jets?

No kidding, my tax dollars fund a unit to fly generals, congress critters and cabinet officals around DC.  Why are these people so speical?