Trump & Netanyahu Press Conference: U.S. will "take over" and "own" the Gaza Strip.

[spidermike007]

2 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

What words was I twisting? There have not been thousands of people murdered, be that adults or children.

 

 

Well it depends on your definition of murder, if you don't think that people killed during warfare is a type of murder then I guess there's no reasoning with you, is there?

 

And if you don't believe in genocide then we're further apart than I thought. There's no doubt in my mind that the current leadership of Israel are homicidal, extremist maniacs. 

[Nick Carter icp]

1 hour ago, Eric Loh said:

All 18,000 children killed were human shields? 

 

   They were not deliberately murdered , like the Israeli children were deliberately murdered 

[Bkk Brian]

12 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Well it depends on your definition of murder, if you don't think that people killed during warfare is a type of murder then I guess there's no reasoning with you, is there?

 

And if you don't believe in genocide then we're further apart than I thought. There's no doubt in my mind that the current leadership of Israel are homicidal, extremist maniacs. 

There is only one definition for murder. You just can't help yourself can you.

[herfiehandbag]

5 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

I think the only conclusion that could be had here is that Trump is an absolute moron, who is completely and totally out of his element when it comes to foreign policy. 

You have just realised?

[candide]

2 hours ago, puck2 said:

Once I have read that a POTUS must show a document of a doctor, that his brain, health and moral are  okay for the time of his presidency.

 

This doctor should lose his job immediately after giving such a paper for the mental health of Trump. Trump's incompetence as POTUS was visible already before and now confirmed again. What a shame for the USA.

Also what a shame for Republicans and Right-Wing media who have been hiding for years that Trump was a megalomaniac who is unable to cope with reality! 😆

[billd766]

3 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

You are the one telling lies: With Gaza's death toll over 40,000, here's the conflict by numbers | AP News

Gaza death toll: how many Palestinians has Israel's offensive killed? | Reuters and from the article: "

_{Israeli officials have said the figures are suspect because of Hamas' control over government in Gaza. Foreign Ministry spokesperson Oren Mamorstein said the numbers were manipulated and "do not reflect the reality on the ground".}

_{However, Israel's military has also accepted in briefings that the overall Gaza casualty numbers are broadly reliable."}

He won't accept that as the information does not come from official Israeli sources, but from the Hamas sources who are actually working on the ground in the aftermath of the Israeli strikes, taking the dead and wounded to the few remaining working hospital, which the Israelis bomb and shell also.

 

There are none so blind as those who refuse to see what is happening on a daily basis.

 

Thank you for a good intelligent link to read.

[Eric Loh]

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   They were not deliberately murdered , like the Israeli children were deliberately murdered 

When Israel planes hit Gaza safe zones and hospitals with powerful MK-84 bombs, it was deliberate and disregarding the children who were there. No difference to Hamas gunmen spraying bullets and random killing. There are no distinction to both form of deliberate killings. 

[Nick Carter icp]

1 hour ago, Eric Loh said:

When Israel planes hit Gaza safe zones and hospitals with powerful MK-84 bombs, it was deliberate and disregarding the children who were there. No difference to Hamas gunmen spraying bullets and random killing. There are no distinction to both form of deliberate killings. 

 

    Could you provide a specific occasion when Israel hit a hospital with a MK-84 bomb , as I cannot really comment unless I know exactly what you are referring to .

   Could you provide a link to what you are talking about ?

[Phulublub]

4 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Temple of David , Jewish Temple in Jerusalem, 3500 years old .

Located in the land called Judea , named after Yehudah , who later changed his name to Israel .

So you can not answer the exam question regarding the Country of Israel.  Got itr..

PH

[Bkk Brian]

1 hour ago, Eric Loh said:

When Israel planes hit Gaza safe zones and hospitals with powerful MK-84 bombs, it was deliberate and disregarding the children who were there. No difference to Hamas gunmen spraying bullets and random killing. There are no distinction to both form of deliberate killings. 

Missed that, MK-84 bombs directly on hospitals? 

[Bkk Brian]

1 hour ago, billd766 said:

He won't accept that as the information does not come from official Israeli sources, but from the Hamas sources who are actually working on the ground in the aftermath of the Israeli strikes, taking the dead and wounded to the few remaining working hospital, which the Israelis bomb and shell also.

 

There are none so blind as those who refuse to see what is happening on a daily basis.

 

Thank you for a good intelligent link to read.

No you are right, unlike you, I don't accept Hamas sources, they are the enemy, they are the terrorists and lie, a lot. Why are they still holding hostages? How's that hospital car park missile they claimed killed over 500 Gazans that turned out to be a Hamas rocket misfiring? Why don't they differentiate in the death figures between their own terrorists killed and local Gazans?

 

Discrepancies in Gaza Casualty Figures: An Analysis of Hamas Data By Associated Press

UN Cuts Death of Women and Children in Gaza by Half

Hamas admits one-third of its data on Gazan deaths is ‘incomplete’

Scrutiny Over Gaza Death Toll Figures: UK Statistics Watchdog Investigates Hamas's Data

How the Gaza Ministry of Health Fakes Casualty Numbers

[Nick Carter icp]

3 minutes ago, Phulublub said:

So you can not answer the exam question regarding the Country of Israel.  Got itr..

PH

 

  I have no idea, as I haven't taken any exam about Israel and thus have no idea whether I could answer a question or not 

[Phulublub]

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  I have no idea, as I haven't taken any exam about Israel and thus have no idea whether I could answer a question or not 

You seemed very knowledgable about the region's history when it came to the Palestinians though...strange, that.  Maybe you only pay attention to things that you think will support your already formed conclusions.

 

PH

[Nick Carter icp]

6 minutes ago, Phulublub said:

You seemed very knowledgable about the region's history when it came to the Palestinians though...strange, that.  Maybe you only pay attention to things that you think will support your already formed conclusions.

 

PH

 

   The land would have the same history for both sides though.

Did you think that the land has two different histories ?

Are you asking me to repost the history of the land again ?

There is just one history , unless there is some parallel universe out there  where a different history happened .

[theblether]

4 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Well it depends on your definition of murder, if you don't think that people killed during warfare is a type of murder then I guess there's no reasoning with you, is there?

 

And if you don't believe in genocide then we're further apart than I thought. There's no doubt in my mind that the current leadership of Israel are homicidal, extremist maniacs. 

 

Please tell me you've actually watched the footage of October 7?

 

No sane individual would call what happened that day anything other than the act of homicidal, extremist maniacs. 

 

Reap what you sow. 

[Eric Loh]

2 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

    Could you provide a specific occasion when Israel hit a hospital with a MK-84 bomb , as I cannot really comment unless I know exactly what you are referring to .

   Could you provide a link to what you are talking about ?

At first, I hesitate to spoon feed a troll. Then again, maybe this link will clean the smug on your face. Scroll down the article and read about MK-84 and Gaza hospital. Waiting for your apologies.

https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2025/2/2/horrorism-mk-84-bombs-and-medical-responsibility-in-the-wake-of-a-genocide

[Phulublub]

27 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   The land would have the same history for both sides though.

Did you think that the land has two different histories ?

Are you asking me to repost the history of the land again ?

There is just one history , unless there is some parallel universe out there  where a different history happened .

And thus you make my pointo for me.... the same history for both sides

 

Yet you, and others, seem content that one side can walk all over the land, rights, and lives of the other. 

 

PH

[Nick Carter icp]

5 minutes ago, Phulublub said:

And thus you make my pointo for me.... the same history for both sides

 

Yet you, and others, seem content that one side can walk all over the land, rights, and lives of the other. 

 

PH

 

   Yes, there was a history of the land being lived on by Jews but there hasn't been a history of the land being lived on by Palestinians , which my previous posts showed 

   But, we really need to get back on topic and enough about history

[simple1]

5 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Has it been agreed yet? If it is ever agreed then you will probably have the answers to your questions rather than claim war crimes because he is forcing them out.

 

So far not one country has claimed it will receive refugees from Gaza based upon trump's Gaza project announcement. Possibly a great deal of noise over nothing, Begs the question why would trump talk up a project without prior buy-in-from regional players, except for Israel; red meat for the MAGA crowd?

[CallumWK]

13 hours ago, Social Media said:

level the site and get rid of the destroyed buildings, level it out,

 

I hope he let the Gazans leave the buildings first

[Bkk Brian]

2 minutes ago, simple1 said:

 

So far not one country has claimed it will receive refugees from Gaza based upon trump's Gaza project announcement. Possibly a great deal of noise over nothing, Begs the question why would trump talk up a project without prior buy-in-from regional players, except for Israel; red meat for the MAGA crowd?

Correct none have agreed as yet. Correct a lot of noise in the first deal suggestion made by Trump. Let's see how it pans out when the deal moves along. Better than your claims of war crimes eh

 

[Bkk Brian]

28 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

At first, I hesitate to spoon feed a troll. Then again, maybe this link will clean the smug on your face. Scroll down the article and read about MK-84 and Gaza hospital. Waiting for your apologies.

https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2025/2/2/horrorism-mk-84-bombs-and-medical-responsibility-in-the-wake-of-a-genocide

An opinion piece confirming no direct hits on hospitals

[sherwood]

Well Syria needs repopulating, put a few of the refugees there.

Once the Arabs have a world class resort city of their own they may look after the joint.

I have no idea if the proposal is serious but it's the best idea I have witnessed in my lifetime.

[Phulublub]

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Yes, there was a history of the land being lived on by Jews but there hasn't been a history of the land being lived on by Palestinians , which my previous posts showed 

   But, we really need to get back on topic and enough about history

WTF?  No history of the Palestinians living in Palestine? 

 

What a joke you are

 

PH

[Nick Carter icp]

11 minutes ago, Phulublub said:

WTF?  No history of the Palestinians living in Palestine? 

 

What a joke you are

 

PH

 

 No history of Palestinians living  a  Country called Palestine is what I meant . No history of Palestinians ruling the land , they migrated to the land from neighbouring Countries because it was prosperous for them  

[billd766]

2 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

At first, I hesitate to spoon feed a troll. Then again, maybe this link will clean the smug on your face. Scroll down the article and read about MK-84 and Gaza hospital. Waiting for your apologies.

https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2025/2/2/horrorism-mk-84-bombs-and-medical-responsibility-in-the-wake-of-a-genocide

Thank you for that link Eric, but sadly I feel it will make no difference in the end. Those that support Israel and the USA will never change. They will always believe that ALL Palestinians are simply Hamas supporters, and are nothing but untermensch that have to be completely exterminated by the most moral army (Netanyahu's words and not mine) in the world.

 

They don't seem to have the sense to understand that for every Palestinian man, woman, boy, girl or baby they indiscriminately kill another will take their place, as a so called "terrorist" now or as they grow up in the future, assuming that they survive.

[Nick Carter icp]

2 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

At first, I hesitate to spoon feed a troll. Then again, maybe this link will clean the smug on your face. Scroll down the article and read about MK-84 and Gaza hospital. Waiting for your apologies.

https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2025/2/2/horrorism-mk-84-bombs-and-medical-responsibility-in-the-wake-of-a-genocide

 

   You are calling me a troll and being rude to me just because I politely asked you to provide a link to your claims ?

   Why are you asking me to apologise  ?

For what ?

[Nick Carter icp]

5 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

When Israel planes hit Gaza safe zones and hospitals with powerful MK-84 bombs, it was deliberate and disregarding the children who were there. No difference to Hamas gunmen spraying bullets and random killing. There are no distinction to both form of deliberate killings. 

 

  OK, thank you for providing a link so now I know what you are referring to .

  Your link states that the hospital wasn't even hit , the bombs landed in the hospital courtyard and the target was a Hamas command center which Israel claims was being operated from the target .

   Hamas targeted innocent civilians 

Israel targeted Hamas.

That is the difference 

[Phulublub]

23 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

 No history of Palestinians living  a  Country called Palestine is what I meant . No history of Palestinians ruling the land , they migrated to the land from neighbouring Countries because it was prosperous for them  

So to be entitled to live there, they had to have ruled?  Got it.

 

As to migrating - homo sapiens have been migrating ever since we emerged as a distinct species.

 

You dont have a logical argument here.  At all.  Just a prejudiced, and warped,  point of view, along the lines of Orwell's "Four legs good, two legs better"

 

PH

[zaZa9]

11 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   It's a toxic environment there in Gaza, they need to more to a more peaceful location .

  They need to leave that environment and be rehabilitated 

 While Israel and the US clean up the proven oil reserves just off Gazas Coast ?   Golly ...y'all so generous !