Donald......and the rest of the world.

[Harrisfan]

3 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

If they were intelligent and they did vote for the orange idiot I bet they are deeply regretting it now!

I regret reading this post. 

[Harrisfan]

7 minutes ago, MicroB said:

We're not at the key 100 days yet, but Trumpf is on course for the second lowest first 100 days Approval Rating since Approval ratings were first recorded. At least he's 4 points up on that loser from 2017. Most US Presidents are given the benefit of the doubt when they first enter office, except that loser of a number 45. Most people don't want a US President to actually fail.

 

https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/statistics/data/presidential-job-approval-ratings

 

More fake polls. Don't liberals have anything better to do?

[MicroB]

1 hour ago, Mike_Hunt said:

In what way?

 

It creates opportunity for China to gain influence at the expense of lost US influence. Two Super Powers are in competition to win hearts and minds. The Russians are out of this game. The US wants Pax Americana, peace on its terms, but the Chinese have a different motivation; they really have no interest in promoting their ideologies or culture. I suspect they are still miffed that the British made them into a nation of opium addicts. And to them, we, British, Americans, we all look alike.

 

One extreme example of the results of the US  backing away from foreign policy is Afghanistan. After the Soviets pulled out, there was a power vacuum; the US had supported one faction in the fight, then cut them off. 12 years later, 2 airliners slammed into the World Trade Center, and one into the Pentagon. Propping up Massod would have been way cheaper than everything that followed 911.

 

Arguably, Vietnam was the same; Nixon abandoned his South Vietnamese allies, with the result that thousands died in re-education camps, and there were waves of refugees.

[OneMoreFarang]

12 hours ago, swissie said:

Or, in other words: What is so terribly wrong in the US that made them vote for Donald?

 

The majority over there is obviously stupid, uneducated and ignorant. And many are believers, give them a new messiah and they believe.

 

[MicroB]

5 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

More fake polls. Don't liberals have anything better to do?

 

 

Please explain and share the real polls. Or is Trumpf's 53% poll fake. And literally, I can prove I am more conservative that you. I have a card to prove it. You don't have a card do you?

[frank83628]

12 hours ago, swissie said:

Currently, Donalds approval rating is around 53 % in the US, while the rest of the "western world" wonders how something like this could have happened.

Wondering how a guy can put "the western alliance" in jeopardy that has benefitted all the members of this alliance since WW2.

 

In Europe, the Person that is named Donald J.Trump is being considered as a pompous, erratic, overbearing character. If not for his money and fame, he would be spending his time in a psychiatric institution for his own good. General consensus.

 

Europeans are still puzzeled: What is so terribly wrong with the political/economical system in the US, that has elevated Donald into the highest office that this nation has to offer?

 

Me, and the overwhelming majority of Europeans would just like to know why the American electorate came to the conclusion, that the time is ripe for a person like Donald. Or, in other words: What is so terribly wrong in the US that made them vote for Donald?

 

I look foreward to many contributions from US posters. The more, the better. It might help Europeans to better understand what is happening in the US. Europeans (and the rest of the "free world) hunger for an explanation, boiling down to 1 word = WHY?

 

 

12 hours ago, swissie said:

Currently, Donalds approval rating is around 53 % in the US, while the rest of the "western world" wonders how something like this could have happened.

Wondering how a guy can put "the western alliance" in jeopardy that has benefitted all the members of this alliance since WW2.

 

In Europe, the Person that is named Donald J.Trump is being considered as a pompous, erratic, overbearing character. If not for his money and fame, he would be spending his time in a psychiatric institution for his own good. General consensus.

 

Europeans are still puzzeled: What is so terribly wrong with the political/economical system in the US, that has elevated Donald into the highest office that this nation has to offer?

 

Me, and the overwhelming majority of Europeans would just like to know why the American electorate came to the conclusion, that the time is ripe for a person like Donald. Or, in other words: What is so terribly wrong in the US that made them vote for Donald?

 

I look foreward to many contributions from US posters. The more, the better. It might help Europeans to better understand what is happening in the US. Europeans (and the rest of the "free world) hunger for an explanation, boiling down to 1 word = WHY?

 

You do not speak for the 'overwhelming majority' at all, far from it

[Harrisfan]

Just now, MicroB said:

 

 

Please explain and share the real polls. Or is Trumpf's 53% poll fake. And literally, I can prove I am more conservative that you. I have a card to prove it. You don't have a card do you?

Look at polls in October. Some had Kamala winning by 5%. If you don't know many polls are garbage I can't help you.

[Harrisfan]

4 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

 

The majority over there is obviously stupid, uneducated and ignorant. And many are believers, give them a new messiah and they believe.

 

Stupid people voted for Kamala. Intelligent people knew she could not win after the 60 Minutes interview.

 

It is amazing how little you liberals know about politics but you keep advertising it.

[OneMoreFarang]

I thought I read a couple of those excuses from the MAGA fanboys.

But I can't do it. It hurts reading so much BS.

I think Americans always ask god to bless them. Please next time ask for brains and intelligence. You really need a lot of that.

[Hummin]

4 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Stupid people voted for Kamala. Intelligent people knew she could not win after the 60 Minutes interview.

 

It is amazing how little you liberals know about politics but you keep advertising it.

Why do some of the most Maga boys change knick names all the time. Your 4-5 since I started to know you? Maybe more

[Harrisfan]

3 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I thought I read a couple of those excuses from the MAGA fanboys.

But I can't do it. It hurts reading so much BS.

I think Americans always ask god to bless them. Please next time ask for brains and intelligence. You really need a lot of that.

Why do you advertise your lack of knowledge about American political issues? 

[OneMoreFarang]

12 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

The Kamalal stood against Trump and her only accolade were her gender and race .

   Dems are as much to blame to Trump being POTUS as much as the Republican voters are 

That is unfortunately true.

[Patong2021]

12 hours ago, TheAppletons said:

I will be forthright in answering your question - people in the USA don't care what people in Europe think.

Sucks but it's true.

 

You are right. However, once the Europeans and Canadians start avoiding US products and traveling to the USA, it will impact the US economy and US citizens will get a  jolt.

 

 

12 hours ago, still kicking said:

So Australia is buying nuclear subs worth 500 billion buy Boing aircrafts and getting threatened with 25% tariffs on steel and aluminium   

 

Australia entered into the purchase when the USA was a reliable ally and its signature on a treaty  or trade agreement could be respected. As the US attempt to bully Canada and to annex Greenland demonstrates, the USA can no longer be trusted and is not a reliable ally. Do not be surprised if Australia withdraws from the purchase agreement. Canada is shopping for new submarines too and Australia helps train Canadian submarine personnel. The two them might revisit the Europeans to source the new submarines.

 

12 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

Many European countries are a mess because they are run by liberals. America saved Europe in ww2 from Hitler. The cowardly French lost in a matter of weeks. The two dumbest people I've ever met both French. Europe should be happy Trump won so the Ukraine war will end sooner. Biden took no steps to end the war because he is a complete idiot.

 

Understand?

 

 

How incredibly arrogant. The USA did not enter WWII until Pearl Harbor and even then it took months to undertake direct action against Germany in November 1942. Until that time, the UK may have been on life support, but Canada was arguably the saviour of Europe. Canada and Newfoundland had 1 million people in uniform. It was Canadian munitions and food that sustained the UK for years,  sent on European and Canadian  ships protected by the 4th largest navy, the Royal Canadian Navy.  Norwegian and Danish merchantmen were putting their lives at risk for freedom years before the USA joined the fight. Commonwealth nations Australia, New Zealand, South Africa and Rhodesia contributed significant amounts of manpower and resources too.  Commonwealth air crews were flying back to back sorties in bad weather and thick anti aircraft blankets  over Germany  in RAF and RCAF aircraft while US servicemen were complaining about the  travails of basic training in sunny Miami.

 

The USA  entered the war because of Pearl Harbor and was content to bleed the British dry with lend lease and to watch the world disintegrate  in hopes that it could one day dominate.  Trump has picked a fight with the very nations that the USA needs and will need. the wake up call to the USA is on the way.

 

 

 

[Harrisfan]

3 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 

You are right. However, once the Europeans and Canadians start avoiding US products and traveling to the USA, it will impact the US economy and US citizens will get a  jolt.

 

 

 

Australia entered into the purchase when the USA was a reliable ally and its signature on a treaty  or trade agreement could be respected. As the US attempt to bully Canada and to annex Greenland demonstrates, the USA can no longer be trusted and is not a reliable ally. Do not be surprised if Australia withdraws from the purchase agreement. Canada is shopping for new submarines too and Australia helps train Canadian submarine personnel. The two them might revisit the Europeans to source the new submarines.

 

 

 

How incredibly arrogant. The USA did not enter WWII until Pearl Harbor and even then it took months to undertake direct action against Germany in November 1942. Until that time, the UK may have been on life support, but Canada was arguably the saviour of Europe. Canada and Newfoundland had 1 million people in uniform. It was Canadian munitions and food that sustained the UK for years,  sent on European and Canadian  ships protected by the 4th largest navy, the Royal Canadian Navy.  Norwegian and Danish merchantmen were putting their lives at risk for freedom years before the USA joined the fight. Commonwealth nations Australia, New Zealand, South Africa and Rhodesia contributed significant amounts of manpower and resources too.  Commonwealth air crews were flying back to back sorties in bad weather and thick anti aircraft blankets  over Germany  in RAF and RCAF aircraft while US servicemen were complaining about the  travails of basic training in sunny Miami.

 

The USA  entered the war because of Pearl Harbor and was content to bleed the British dry with lend lease and to watch the world disintegrate  in hopes that it could one day dominate.  Trump has picked a fight with the very nations that the USA needs and will need. the wake up call to the USA is on the way.

 

 

 

Canada saved Europe? 

[frank83628]

11 hours ago, Mike_Hunt said:

 

Thus,  you speak out your ass. 

That's probably where he keeps  bananas

[frank83628]

12 hours ago, swissie said:

Currently, the "approval rate" of European voters supporting "Donalds Universe" is about 15%.  According to polls.

Remember all those polls saying Harris was up and going to win?

[Marcous]

Propaganda.

 

With Musk owning Twitter and Facebook rolling back fact-checking, it can only get worse. 

[Harrisfan]

4 minutes ago, Marcous said:

Propaganda.

 

With Musk owning Twitter and Facebook rolling back fact-checking, it can only get worse. 

Musk owns Facebook? 

[Harrisfan]

6 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Remember all those polls saying Harris was up and going to win?

Liberals only look at liberal polls. That is why they still can't believe Trump win. And they call maga people dumb. It is so funny.

[spidermike007]

A letter from the former PM of Canada. I consider it an important letter because there are very few world leaders that have the guts to speak out against this madman. 

 

Jean Chretien is 91 today and he gave himself a birthday present. He told Donald J. Trump to piss off in the The Globe and Mail. Here's his column: 

  *   *   *

Today is my 91st birthday.

It’s an opportunity to celebrate with family and friends. To look back on the life I’ve had the privilege to lead. And to reflect on how much this country we all love so much has grown and changed over the course of the nine decades I’ve been on this Earth.

 

This year, I’ve also decided to give myself a birthday present. I’m going to do something in this article that I don’t do very often anymore, and sound off on a big issue affecting the state of the nation and profoundly bothering me and so many other Canadians: The totally unacceptable insults and unprecedented threats to our very sovereignty from U.S. president-elect Donald Trump.

I have two very clear and simple messages.

 

To Donald Trump, from one old guy to another: Give your head a shake! What could make you think that Canadians would ever give up the best country in the world – and make no mistake, that is what we are – to join the United States?

I can tell you Canadians prize our independence. We love our country. We have built something here that is the envy of the world – when it comes to compassion, understanding, tolerance and finding a way for people of different backgrounds and faiths to live together in harmony.

We’ve also built a strong social safety net – especially with public health care – that we are very proud of. It’s not perfect, but it’s based on the principle that the most vulnerable among us should be protected.

This may not be the “American Way” or “the Trump Way.” But it is the reality I have witnessed and lived my whole long life.

 

If you think that threatening and insulting us is going to win us over, you really don’t know a thing about us. You don’t know that when it came to fighting in two world wars for freedom, we signed up – both times – years before your country did. We fought and we sacrificed well beyond our numbers.

 

We also had the guts to say no to your country when it tried to drag us into a completely unjustified and destabilizing war in Iraq.

 

We built a nation across the most rugged, challenging geography imaginable. And we did it against the odds.

We may look easy-going. Mild-mannered. But make no mistake, we have spine and toughness.

 

And that leads me to my second message, to all our leaders, federal and provincial, as well as those who are aspiring to lead our country: Start showing that spine and toughness. That’s what Canadians want to see – what they need to see. It’s called leadership. You need to lead. Canadians are ready to follow. I know the spirit is there. Ever since Mr. Trump’s attacks, every political party is speaking out in favour of Canada. In fact, it is to my great satisfaction that even the Bloc Québécois is defending Canada.

 

But you don’t win a hockey game by only playing defence. We all know that even when we satisfy one demand, Mr. Trump will come back with another, bigger demand. That’s not diplomacy; it’s blackmail.

We need another approach – one that will break this cycle.

 

Mr. Trump has accomplished one thing: He has unified Canadians more than we have been ever before! All leaders across our country have united in resolve to defend Canadian interests.

 

When I came into office as prime minister, Canada faced a national unity crisis. The threat of Quebec separation was very real. We took action to deal with this existential threat in a manner that made Canadians, including Quebeckers, stronger, more united and even prouder of Canadian values.

 

Now there is another existential threat. And we once again need to reduce our vulnerability. That is the challenge for this generation of political leaders.

 

And you won’t accomplish it by using the same old approaches. Just like we did 30 years ago, we need a Plan B for 2025. Yes, telling the Americans we are their best friends and closest trading partner is good. So is lobbying hard in Washington and the state capitals, pointing out that tariffs will hurt the American economy too. So are retaliatory tariffs – when you are attacked, you have to defend yourself.

But we also have to play offence. Let’s tell Mr. Trump that we too have border issues with the United States. Canada has tough gun control legislation, but illegal guns are pouring in from the U.S. We need to tell him that we expect the United States to act to reduce the number of guns crossing into Canada.

 

We also want to protect the Arctic. But the United States refuses to recognize the Northwest Passage, insisting that it is an international waterway, even though it flows through the Canadian Arctic as Canadian waters. We need the United States to recognize the Northwest Passage as being Canadian waters.

 

We also need to reduce Canada’s vulnerability in the first place. We need to be stronger. There are more trade barriers between provinces than between Canada and the United States. Let’s launch a national project to get rid of those barriers! And let’s strengthen the ties that bind this vast nation together through projects such as real national energy grid.

 

We also have to understand that Mr. Trump isn’t just threatening us; he’s also targeting a growing list of other countries, as well as the European Union itself, and he is just getting started. Canada should quickly convene a meeting of the leaders of Denmark, Panama, Mexico, as well as with European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen, to formulate a plan for fighting back these threats.

 

Every time that Mr. Trump opens his mouth, he creates new allies for all of us. So let’s get organized! To fight back against a big, powerful bully, you need strength in numbers.

The whole point is not to wait in dread for Donald Trump’s next blow. It’s to build a country and an international community that can withstand those blows.

 

Canadians know me. They know I am an optimist. That I am practical. And that I always speak my mind. I made my share of mistakes over a long career, but I never for a moment doubted the decency of my fellow Canadians – or of my political opponents.

The current and future generations of political leaders should remember they are not each other’s enemies – they are opponents. Nobody ever loved the cut-and-thrust of politics more than me, but I always understood that each of us was trying to make a positive contribution to make our community or country a better place.

 

That spirit is more important now than ever, as we address this new challenge. Our leaders should keep that in mind.

I am 91 today and blessed with good health. I am ready at the ramparts to help defend the independence of our country as I have done all my life.

Vive le Canada! 

(Article shared by Steve Paikin)

[Mike_Hunt]

55 minutes ago, MicroB said:

 

It creates opportunity for China to gain influence at the expense of lost US influence. Two Super Powers are in competition to win hearts and minds. The Russians are out of this game. The US wants Pax Americana, peace on its terms, but the Chinese have a different motivation; they really have no interest in promoting their ideologies or culture. I suspect they are still miffed that the British made them into a nation of opium addicts. And to them, we, British, Americans, we all look alike.

 

One extreme example of the results of the US  backing away from foreign policy is Afghanistan. After the Soviets pulled out, there was a power vacuum; the US had supported one faction in the fight, then cut them off. 12 years later, 2 airliners slammed into the World Trade Center, and one into the Pentagon. Propping up Massod would have been way cheaper than everything that followed 911.

 

Arguably, Vietnam was the same; Nixon abandoned his South Vietnamese allies, with the result that thousands died in re-education camps, and there were waves of refugees.

 

 

 

1) Afghanistan is known as the "graveyard of empires" because many empires have tried to conquer it but failed. 

2) The US never should have been in Vietnam in the first place. 

 

 

[Mike_Hunt]

1 minute ago, spidermike007 said:

A letter from the former PM of Canada. I consider it an important letter because they are very few world leaders that have the guts to speak out against this madman. 

 

Jean Chretien is 91 today and he gave himself a birthday present. He told Donald J. Trump to piss off in the The Globe and Mail. Here's his column: 

  *   *   *

Today is my 91st birthday.

It’s an opportunity to celebrate with family and friends. To look back on the life I’ve had the privilege to lead. And to reflect on how much this country we all love so much has grown and changed over the course of the nine decades I’ve been on this Earth.

 

This year, I’ve also decided to give myself a birthday present. I’m going to do something in this article that I don’t do very often anymore, and sound off on a big issue affecting the state of the nation and profoundly bothering me and so many other Canadians: The totally unacceptable insults and unprecedented threats to our very sovereignty from U.S. president-elect Donald Trump.

I have two very clear and simple messages.

 

To Donald Trump, from one old guy to another: Give your head a shake! What could make you think that Canadians would ever give up the best country in the world – and make no mistake, that is what we are – to join the United States?

I can tell you Canadians prize our independence. We love our country. We have built something here that is the envy of the world – when it comes to compassion, understanding, tolerance and finding a way for people of different backgrounds and faiths to live together in harmony.

We’ve also built a strong social safety net – especially with public health care – that we are very proud of. It’s not perfect, but it’s based on the principle that the most vulnerable among us should be protected.

This may not be the “American Way” or “the Trump Way.” But it is the reality I have witnessed and lived my whole long life.

If you think that threatening and insulting us is going to win us over, you really don’t know a thing about us. You don’t know that when it came to fighting in two world wars for freedom, we signed up – both times – years before your country did. We fought and we sacrificed well beyond our numbers.

 

We also had the guts to say no to your country when it tried to drag us into a completely unjustified and destabilizing war in Iraq.

 

We built a nation across the most rugged, challenging geography imaginable. And we did it against the odds.

We may look easy-going. Mild-mannered. But make no mistake, we have spine and toughness.

 

And that leads me to my second message, to all our leaders, federal and provincial, as well as those who are aspiring to lead our country: Start showing that spine and toughness. That’s what Canadians want to see – what they need to see. It’s called leadership. You need to lead. Canadians are ready to follow.

I know the spirit is there. Ever since Mr. Trump’s attacks, every political party is speaking out in favour of Canada. In fact, it is to my great satisfaction that even the Bloc Québécois is defending Canada.

But you don’t win a hockey game by only playing defence. We all know that even when we satisfy one demand, Mr. Trump will come back with another, bigger demand. That’s not diplomacy; it’s blackmail.

We need another approach – one that will break this cycle.

Mr. Trump has accomplished one thing: He has unified Canadians more than we have been ever before! All leaders across our country have united in resolve to defend Canadian interests.

 

When I came into office as prime minister, Canada faced a national unity crisis. The threat of Quebec separation was very real. We took action to deal with this existential threat in a manner that made Canadians, including Quebeckers, stronger, more united and even prouder of Canadian values.

 

Now there is another existential threat. And we once again need to reduce our vulnerability. That is the challenge for this generation of political leaders.

And you won’t accomplish it by using the same old approaches. Just like we did 30 years ago, we need a Plan B for 2025.

Yes, telling the Americans we are their best friends and closest trading partner is good. So is lobbying hard in Washington and the state capitals, pointing out that tariffs will hurt the American economy too. So are retaliatory tariffs – when you are attacked, you have to defend yourself.

But we also have to play offence. Let’s tell Mr. Trump that we too have border issues with the United States. Canada has tough gun control legislation, but illegal guns are pouring in from the U.S. We need to tell him that we expect the United States to act to reduce the number of guns crossing into Canada.

 

We also want to protect the Arctic. But the United States refuses to recognize the Northwest Passage, insisting that it is an international waterway, even though it flows through the Canadian Arctic as Canadian waters. We need the United States to recognize the Northwest Passage as being Canadian waters.

 

We also need to reduce Canada’s vulnerability in the first place. We need to be stronger. There are more trade barriers between provinces than between Canada and the United States. Let’s launch a national project to get rid of those barriers! And let’s strengthen the ties that bind this vast nation together through projects such as real national energy grid.

 

We also have to understand that Mr. Trump isn’t just threatening us; he’s also targeting a growing list of other countries, as well as the European Union itself, and he is just getting started. Canada should quickly convene a meeting of the leaders of Denmark, Panama, Mexico, as well as with European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen, to formulate a plan for fighting back these threats.

 

Every time that Mr. Trump opens his mouth, he creates new allies for all of us. So let’s get organized! To fight back against a big, powerful bully, you need strength in numbers.

The whole point is not to wait in dread for Donald Trump’s next blow. It’s to build a country and an international community that can withstand those blows.

Canadians know me. They know I am an optimist. That I am practical. And that I always speak my mind. I made my share of mistakes over a long career, but I never for a moment doubted the decency of my fellow Canadians – or of my political opponents.

The current and future generations of political leaders should remember they are not each other’s enemies – they are opponents. Nobody ever loved the cut-and-thrust of politics more than me, but I always understood that each of us was trying to make a positive contribution to make our community or country a better place.

 

That spirit is more important now than ever, as we address this new challenge. Our leaders should keep that in mind.

I am 91 today and blessed with good health. I am ready at the ramparts to help defend the independence of our country as I have done all my life.

Vive le Canada! 

(Article shared by Steve Paikin)

 

Canada is the hat of the USA.  

[soalbundy]

12 hours ago, swissie said:

Still looking for comments like: " What is so terribly wrong with the political/economical system in the US, that has elevated Donald into the highest office that this nation has to offer?

 

High personal debt, lower living standards, increasing homelessness, rising unemployment, poverty on the rise, the collapsing American empire causing an egoic loss of being number one in the world (see 'make America great again') 

 

Trump promises to turn the clock back, this simplistic message was easy to understand and found favour with a large portion of the populace whose earlier high standard of living (the American dream) was fueled by having the world's reserve currency allowing their standard of living to be paid for by the rest of the world.

 

The rise of Europe, China, India, the formation of BRICS and the exporting of American production to S.E. Asia is a harbinger of Americas downfall, the continuation of rolling over its huge debt to the rest of the world is being called into question.

 

Nobody takes American bullying seriously anymore. A good example of how poorly thought out Trumps 'imperialist' tariffs are is China now banning exports of tungsten to the USA as an answer to Trumps tariffs on China, China produces 90% of the worlds tungsten, America produces none, tungsten is needed in a myriad of industries from metal to electronics. Canada sells vast amounts of LNG cheaply to the US which then gets sold on for a higher price to Europe and Japan, Canada now, due to America's bellicose statements (51st state) and sanctions, realizes it can sell directly to Europe and Japan for a higher price than to America but still cheaper than America can supply to the world. These are just two examples of how America is shooting it's feet off. USAID reduction now allows China to woo African and Asian countries into its sphere of influence. Trump is accelerating America's demise.

[spidermike007]

1 minute ago, Mike_Hunt said:

 

Canada is the hat of the USA.  

The US could not exist without Canada, Mexico and China. Period. 

[Mike_Hunt]

Just now, spidermike007 said:

The US could not exist without Canada, Mexico and China. Period. 

Maybe Canada should start funding their military to meet NATO requirements.  

[nauseus]

1 hour ago, UWEB said:

No, it is in Line with the German Constitution written 1949 as outcome on the Hitlers Nazi Terror, all political Parties must be dissolved if their plan is to destroy the new Constitution. And that's the case with the NSAFD.

 

And you can prove that? 

[Mike_Hunt]

34 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 

 

How incredibly arrogant. The USA did not enter WWII until Pearl Harbor and even then it took months to undertake direct action against Germany in November 1942. Until that time, the UK may have been on life support, but Canada was arguably the saviour of Europe. Canada and Newfoundland had 1 million people in uniform. It was Canadian munitions and food that sustained the UK for years,  sent on European and Canadian  ships protected by the 4th largest navy, the Royal Canadian Navy.  Norwegian and Danish merchantmen were putting their lives at risk for freedom years before the USA joined the fight. Commonwealth nations Australia, New Zealand, South Africa and Rhodesia contributed significant amounts of manpower and resources too.  Commonwealth air crews were flying back to back sorties in bad weather and thick anti aircraft blankets  over Germany  in RAF and RCAF aircraft while US servicemen were complaining about the  travails of basic training in sunny Miami.

 

The USA  entered the war because of Pearl Harbor and was content to bleed the British dry with lend lease and to watch the world disintegrate  in hopes that it could one day dominate.  Trump has picked a fight with the very nations that the USA needs and will need. the wake up call to the USA is on the way.

 

 

 

 

Without the USA's industrial might the battle of the Atlantic would been lost.   The USA also blocked Japan from cutting off supply lines to Australia and New Zealand during the battles of Guadalcanal.  

[TedG]

1 hour ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

He doesn't know, it's one of those student campus slogans, that lefties often repeat 

Exactly.  

[Eloquent pilgrim]

12 hours ago, UWEB said:

I would be more than happy to see the criminal Fascists of the German NSAFD banned, better yesterday then tomorrow.

 

And who exactly are the criminal fascists of the NSAFD, or are you simply using that slur as an umbrella term for people you either dislike or whose views you disagree with ?

 

 

[Harrisfan]

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

The US could not exist without Canada, Mexico and China. Period. 

Canada would get invaded by Chinese if not for US. Chinese economy would go into recession if not for US.