Musk targets Social Security with blatant misinformation

[Liverpool Lou]

12 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Magas -- if it was George Soros who had access to all your most personal should be confidential data and he was allowed to copy it for personal profit

What evidence is there that Soros didn't have that, or more, access?

[Jingthing]

8 hours ago, radiogeneris said:

Title of this post is actually misinformation itself. Mainstream media is basically propaganda program run by USA ID. Go to Elon Musk or Doge on X/Twitter to see the actual information instead of lies. Here is the link to story:

 

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/might-be-biggest-fraud-history

 

Biggest fraud, possibly tied to voting as well...

 

Amazing that people still believe MSM Propaganda.

 

 

Anyone that goes to Twitter believing they're getting factual information there is beyond the pale by definition. 

[Harrisfan]

2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I've heard that the quote was actually from a MOVIE about Napoleon and that he never said it. But the idea is the same. Trump is ruling as a God King.

So guys in Bangkok and Pattaya can't leave their condos due to Trump. I honestly can't understand what you and others are complaining about. 

[Liverpool Lou]

12 hours ago, theshu25 said:

Morons Are Governing America

No, they were until they lost last November

[Harrisfan]

Just now, Jingthing said:

Anyone that goes to Twitter believing they're getting factual information there is beyond the pale by definition. 

Anyone who makes 100,000 posts is what then? Most people dont trust any website. 

[Jingthing]

You need to be hopelessly naive to think Musk or Trump cares about regular American people. Why seeking cuts? Mainly to fund tax cuts for billionaires and even fatter contracts for Musk's projects.

[scottiejohn]

1 minute ago, Harrisfan said:

 Most people dont trust any website. 

So why post on one?

[radiogeneris]

NEW: DOGE Says $4.7 Trillion of Taxpayer Cash is 'Untraceable.'
https://thenationalpulse.com/2025/02/18/doge-says-4-7-trillion-of-taxpayer-cash-is-untraceable/?feed_id=39743&_unique_id=67b493f336823

[radiogeneris]

5 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

You need to be hopelessly naive to think Musk or Trump cares about regular American people. Why seeking cuts? Mainly to fund tax cuts for billionaires and even fatter contracts for Musk's projects.

 

I truly believe they care, judge people by actions not by MSM propaganda 

[radiogeneris]

9 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Anyone that goes to Twitter believing they're getting factual information there is beyond the pale by definition. 

 

Citizen journalism is new way to get information now. There are many reputable accounts there and community notes, so information is crossed checked. MSM was really propaganda machine financed/influenced by USA ID...

[radiogeneris]

14 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

What evidence is there that Soros didn't have that, or more, access?

 

Elon had PayPal, so he can be trusted with security. He also has highest security clearance as guy is launching rockets for NASA...

[Gknrd]

I am going to take the OP "cut and paste" and forwarded it to DOGE on X.  With a note:  Please consider freezing all future raises on SS.  To retired US SS recipients living in foreign countries.  

[radiogeneris]

16 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

What evidence is there that Soros didn't have that, or more, access?

 

BTW, Doge is not new. They have renamed the EXISTING agency. That means that all activist Soros judges will loose once it goes to Supreme Court. Obama created this agency in first place actually... Do your research...

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[cdemundo]

25 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Not very comforting. Musk and his big balls boy have all your data now. Nobody is checking them. What could possibly go wrong? 

 

As I said: Disregarding feelings about Musk and about any other posters on AN,

So I won't respond to your baffling response.

[radiogeneris]

BTW, what is wrong with reducing fraud/waste? Unless it is fueled by people who are implicated in this fraud... Searches on Google for criminal attorney in DC skyrocket... 

[Liverpool Lou]

2 minutes ago, radiogeneris said:

21 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

What evidence is there that Soros didn't have that, or more, access?

 

BTW, Doge is not new. They have renamed the EXISTING agency. That means that all activist Soros judges will loose once it goes to Supreme Court. Obama created this agency in first place actually... Do your research...

Did I say that DOGE is new, did I even mention DOGE. or "Soros judges", or the SC?  Why do I need to "do my research"?   Why don't you just read what I posted.

[Jingthing]

7 minutes ago, Gknrd said:

I am going to take the OP "cut and paste" and forwarded it to DOGE on X.  With a note:  Please consider freezing all future raises on SS.  To retired US SS recipients living in foreign countries.  

You would have made a great Stasi operative.

[radiogeneris]

22 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Anyone that goes to Twitter believing they're getting factual information there is beyond the pale by definition. 

 

I rather trust world leaders like Elon/Trump, no need middle man like MSM. You can get directly information from them instead of lies of MSM.

[Jingthing]

4 minutes ago, radiogeneris said:

 

I rather trust world leaders like Elon/Trump, no need middle man like MSM. You can get directly information from them instead of lies of MSM.

Who elected Musk? 

[theblether]

Idiots at it again. 

 

The social security system is operating on a 1970's computing framework. Musk knows all about default dates etc

 

He is driving towards modernising the system and deleting obsolete SSN's.

 

There is no doubt there is fraud. One woman was jailed for claiming her mother's pension for 48 years after her death. 48 years. Unbelievable. 

 

All numbers should auto deleted at 120 years. I think states should be checking "proof of life" at 100. It doesn't need to be intrusive. Literally a visit from a state official with a Presidential birthday card. We send out Royal birthday greetings to everyone who turns 100 in the UK. 

 

It's a nice touch but useful. 

[Rhys]

Has anyone been able to get through to the 1-800-number?  Does it still click off after one ring?

 

[candide]

2 hours ago, radiogeneris said:

 

I rather trust world leaders like Elon/Trump, no need middle man like MSM. You can get directly information from them instead of lies of MSM.

Do you really believe  what you write, or are you just on propaganda mode? 

[save the frogs]

This concept is over my head, admittedly. I'm not sure how exactly the technology will be used.

But this is a new concept that I have come across recently.

Who is Musk? Musk = Tech and Tech largely includes AI, which will grow fast soon. 

 

So there seems to be connection with AI and democracy. And therefore with Musk. 

 

So MAYBE Musk is not leading down a path of more dictatorship, but a better form of democracy?

 

https://www.imf.org/en/Publications/fandd/issues/2023/12/POV-Fostering-more-inclusive-democracy-with-AI-Landemore

 

Fostering More Inclusive Democracy With AI

 

People worry that artificial intelligence (AI) is, or will soon be, undermining democracy. They fear AI will take away jobs, destabilize the economy, and widen the divide between the rich and the poor. This could further concentrate power in the hands of a few tech companies and weaken government structures designed to regulate them. Some also fear that tech giants and government may increasingly delegate human decision-making to machines, eventually replacing democracy with “algocracy,” rule not by the people but by algorithm.

 

Despite its limitations and risks, AI has the potential to bring about a better, more inclusive version of democracy, 

 

 

[save the frogs]

Algocracy.

Now there's a word you probably never heard before. 

 

[TedG]

5 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

JFK

It’s the impossible questoin. 

[Patong2021]

6 hours ago, TedG said:

 

If the SS funding issue is not addressed, benefits will be mandatory cut in the future. 

 

Yes, but that statement needs context. Although the US federal law states that Social Security can only pay benefits from the funds available from the social security investment  fund pool which are held in Treasury securities, this isn't likely to occur until 2035. In the absence of  new funding or a reduction in the payouts,  there would most likely be a freeze in payments, i.e. no COLA  before there were "cuts". And before there were cuts, there might be reduced eligibility, and/or incremental small reductions.  A cut is synonymous with a large reduction, and the Social Security program is still decades away from that.

 

More likely is a US debt crisis.  In order to  pay out the benefits due, the  Treasury instruments would have to be liquidated, and this would most likely  create a financial crisis in the USA as the USA would not have the  liquidity to repay the  monies owed to the  Social Security  fund.

[TedG]

3 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 

Yes, but that statement needs context. Although the US federal law states that Social Security can only pay benefits from the funds available from the social security investment  fund pool which are held in Treasury securities, this isn't likely to occur until 2035. In the absence of  new funding or a reduction in the payouts,  there would most likely be a freeze in payments, i.e. no COLA  before there were "cuts". And before there were cuts, there might be reduced eligibility, and/or incremental small reductions.  A cut is synonymous with a large reduction, and the Social Security program is still decades away from that.

 

More likely is a US debt crisis.  In order to  pay out the benefits due, the  Treasury instruments would have to be liquidated, and this would most likely  create a financial crisis in the USA as the USA would not have the  liquidity to repay the  monies owed to the  Social Security  fund.

 

There is a bill floating around in congerss to remove the cap.   But, congess never looks at long term solutions to deal with issues.   They will wait 9.9 years to address the issue. 

[Patong2021]

5 hours ago, placeholder said:

And there should be no limit on what income gets taxes. Right now it tops out at somewhere around  at $160,000 (I think).

 

There should be, for the simple reason that the  people who will pay on the higher limits will never collect the benefit. 

The  majority of US citizens do not pay anywhere near the value of goods and services that they receive from their government(s). It is always the 20% of the population carrying the burden of 80% of the population. How much more burden must they take on?

[Patong2021]

13 hours ago, Lacessit said:

Pensioners living in Thailand do it so they can have a reasonable standard of living.

 

Forcing them to join the homeless in the USA is as clear a case of dumbf***ery as I have seen posted.

 

The point is that your retirees are collecting far more than they ever contributed. That is not fair. Let them collect the value of what their contributions are worth. You are demanding that they get a free ride. Why should they be treated  as a special class while others are denied basic benefits or have their benefits reduced? 

[Patong2021]

8 minutes ago, TedG said:

 

There is a bill floating around in congerss to remove the cap.   But, congess never looks at long term solutions to deal with issues.   They will wait 9.9 years to address the issue. 

 

Yes, you are correct. It has always been a delay, delay and let someone else deal with it. No different than the immigration crisis. Decades go by, making the problem a critical mess. I hope the  congress members who believe in controlling the deficit are not steam rolled.