16 minutes ago, KannikaP said:

And be last in the line at Immigration!

There is a separate line/booth for the infirm, pregnant women, and people over 70.

2 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Many don't have luggage to wait for. Never thought of that?

  

 

   Yes, I travel without any luggage myself quite often 

So... on the subject of air-travel, standing up before the seatbelt sign has turned off...

People in a rush to 'deplane'....  etc.

 

What about those who stand so closely to the baggage carousel in such a rush to get their luggage that they block everyone else ???... and often those who's baggage is already 'out' on the carousel - rather than standing back and only stepping forwards when their baggage arrives. 

..... this occurs in every airport I've ever been to, even though there is a clear line to stand behind. 

 

 

It does seem that air-travel turns a lot of people into idiots... or many are forced to take on the habits of the lowest common denominator. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Just now, Nick Carter icp said:

  

 

   Yes, I travel without any luggage myself quite often 

 

99% of my flights... I only have carry on.

3 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

True... but it's still no need for the 'ruck and maul' to rush off the plan with complete disregard for anyone else.... neither there any need for people to stand up before the seatbelt sign is off and the plane might still need to be moved. 

 

   And you should wait until all the people Infront have disembarked , rather than rushing and pushing in the queue

Just now, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   And you should wait until all the people Infront have disembarked , rather than rushing and pushing in the queue

No thanks. I want to get walking asap. Sitting is bad for you.

3 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Its a valid point....  lots of flammable liquor in the overhead compartments....  but there have never been any stories of that being an issue.... it just makes somewhat of a mockery of the 100ml liquid limit... 

... Though, those 100ml liquid limits are for 'other liquids' if when mixed make 'nasty concoctions'... 

 

A friend and I got into serious trouble in Chemistry when being trusted with the keys to the lab and coming up with some rather explosive mixtures in relatively small amounts... 

You too? I got into trouble for making bromine gas. Although my chemistry teacher was impressed when I duplicated the Ostwald process.

 

I had quite a few explosive mixtures, they were in small amounts out of a sense of self-preservation.

4 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

No thanks. I want to get walking asap. Sitting is bad for you.

 

   You fight it out with the Chinese and Indians and use  elbows to get off the plane first .

   You will win the prize of being out the airport five minutes before everyone else .

10 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

 

99% of my flights... I only have carry on.

 

   Where do you need to get to to be in such a rush and hurry ?

There are some very chill do-gooders here, or maybe they're not telling the truth.

I'm one of the racers to get off, but I never do it in a way that affects others.

I have an aisle seat and my hand luggage above or ahead of me.

I'm fit and not fat, I can stand up ONLY AFTER THE LIGHT or when the plane has stopped, and move forward until others are in the aisle ahead of me. What's the big deal? I might get on an earlier bus if they run buses. I have better sh*t to than wait for other people. I can get ahead at the immigration queue.

This is for short flights, domestic and local ASEAN/Japan, usually just hand luggage.

 

For long haul, there's no rush and I don't rush...  but after 10+ hours in the damn thing, why drag it out longer?

 

And what's this 'nano second' nonsense? You can save yourself 5-10 valuable minutes if done properly.

 

Oh, but I'm often among the last 5% on the plane, but never have my name called.

 

Go ahead, tear me to pieces. 😉😎🙃

5 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Where do you need to get to to be in such a rush and hurry ?

 

Work trips typically 1 maybe 2 days.... why would I check luggage ?

@Nick Carter icp

 

Indeed, I have must have thought the same thing 1000 times.

 

It is the fear of being overtaken, losing out, stuck behind. It is strongly linked to an instinctive response and thus a personality in which panic, fear and anxiety tend to trump critical thinking.

 

Certain ethnicities and nationalities tend to strongly show a preference for grabbing their luggage as soon as the landing gear hits the ground or even before. Provincial Chinese spring to mind. The same demographic has an ability to queue and comes across as extremely pushy and impatient for the same reason. In their world, if you don't take every shortcut, you are screwed.

 

This, of course, does not apply to getting off an aircraft as you pointed out. But they cannot switch off the anxiety of people passing them, relegating them.

 

 

2 minutes ago, 2long said:

There are some very chill do-gooders here, or maybe they're not telling the truth.

I'm one of the racers to get off, but I never do it in a way that affects others.

I have an aisle seat and my hand luggage above or ahead of me.

I'm fit and not fat, I can stand up ONLY AFTER THE LIGHT or when the plane has stopped, and move forward until others are in the aisle ahead of me. What's the big deal? I might get on an earlier bus if they run buses. I have better sh*t to than wait for other people. I can get ahead at the immigration queue.

This is for short flights, domestic and local ASEAN/Japan, usually just hand luggage.

 

For long haul, there's no rush and I don't rush...  but after 10+ hours in the damn thing, why drag it out longer?

 

And what's this 'nano second' nonsense? You can save yourself 5-10 valuable minutes if done properly.

 

Oh, but I'm often among the last 5% on the plane, but never have my name called.

 

Go ahead, tear me to pieces. 😉😎🙃

 

   If we all did the same though, there would be 300 people all trying to get through the same little door all at the same time 

2 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

 

Work trips typically 1 maybe 2 days.... why would I check luggage ?

 

  I did mean that where do you need to be that its important that you get there five minutes earlier ?

3 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  I did mean that where do you need to be that its important that you get there five minutes earlier ?

 

How would I get there 5 mins earlier.... do you think Iam forcing the door open ?

1 minute ago, Ralf001 said:

 

How would I get there 5 mins earlier.... do you think Iam forcing the door open ?

 

   Pushing your way to get off the plane before everyone else does , so you get to where ever you are going a few minutes earlier 

28 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

So... on the subject of air-travel, standing up before the seatbelt sign has turned off...

People in a rush to 'deplane'....  etc.

 

What about those who stand so closely to the baggage carousel in such a rush to get their luggage that they block everyone else ???... and often those who's baggage is already 'out' on the carousel - rather than standing back and only stepping forwards when their baggage arrives. 

..... this occurs in every airport I've ever been to, even though there is a clear line to stand behind. 

 

 

It does seem that air-travel turns a lot of people into idiots... or many are forced to take on the habits of the lowest common denominator. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The 'Line' is for trolleys. There's no 'don't stand here' line that I know of.

Why stand far away from the carousel and watch the thing go slowly?

Plus, if you stand far from it, others will block your view.

Therefore, if you get off the plane before some others you can get a nice position at the carousel.

 

I do not act like a d*ck or stand in the way, but when travelling alone I'm very adept at doing my thing smoothly and efficiently without affecting or being affected by others. It's a dog eat dog world in these situations and if you snooze, you lose.

I always stand up at the end of a flight want to make sure I am the first one in the bar

3 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Pushing your way to get off the plane before everyone else does , so you get to where ever you are going a few minutes earlier 

 

where did I say I push my way to get off the plane ?

If i have items in the over head bin

above my seat , i want to be the first

to have access to the bin! I dont want

someone pushing , pulling or possibly 

disturbing the content of my  7.5 kilo

bag.For my hands only.

19 minutes ago, 2long said:

The 'Line' is for trolleys. There's no 'don't stand here' line that I know of.

Why stand far away from the carousel and watch the thing go slowly?

Plus, if you stand far from it, others will block your view.

Therefore, if you get off the plane before some others you can get a nice position at the carousel.

 

I do not act like a d*ck or stand in the way, but when travelling alone I'm very adept at doing my thing smoothly and efficiently without affecting or being affected by others. It's a dog eat dog world in these situations and if you snooze, you lose.

 

   What do you lose by standing back a bit and waiting until your bag appears on the conveyor belt and then stepping forward and picking it up .

   What do you win  by standing right next to the conveyor belt ?

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   What do you lose by standing back a bit and waiting until your bag appears on the conveyor belt and then stepping forward and picking it up .

   What do you win  by standing right next to the conveyor belt ?

The ability to actually see it and grab it before it's gone past.

Many bags look the same and with a load of other people in the way I might not identify mine in time, and I don't fancy jogging along trying to find a gap in the crowd.

SOMEONE has to be first off the plane and SOMEONE has to be nearest the carousel. I'm not saying that this person has to be me, and I don't barge people or block their views. I just have a lifestyle that requires me not wasting time, due to rolling over for other people, many of whom are of certain races and cultures.

Like on the road, I'm very aware of what I'm doing and I hate inconveniencing or endangering others. I have good spatial awareness, and manners, and road sense. I also have a life to lead, and hanging around at airports and on flights isn't much fun for me... when I flew 30+ times in 2024 and expect similar this year.

1 hour ago, Nemises said:

Oh, you’re having problems understanding. Here it is again: I stand up before landing to stretch my legs and I stand up upon landing (when allowed to) to again stretch my legs. 

how long are your legs these days , after all that stretching?

5 minutes ago, 2long said:

wasting time, due to rolling over for other people, many of whom are of certain races and cultures.

all of whom are of certain races and cultures surely

13 minutes ago, 2long said:

The ability to actually see it and grab it before it's gone past.

Many bags look the same and with a load of other people in the way I might not identify mine in time, and I don't fancy jogging along trying to find a gap in the crowd.

.

 

   I don't need to find a gap in the crowd when I see my bag going around , I just push people out the way , the people standing right next to the conveyor belt , I just give them a shoulder barge and say "excuse me " whilst reaching for my bag 

2 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

100% agree....    this behavior varies depending on 'origin and destination' of flight and can perhaps be associated with the socio-education of the majority of passengers. 

 

i.e. flying into a sh!thole... and passengers are literally climbing over each other to get off first. 

 

Meanwhile, flying from Japan to Thailand (or Thailand to Japan) and the final procedures of the flight are far less chaotic. 

 

BUT... other than the mindless empty headed 'got to get off' mentality, I think there is another facet at play....  Overhead Luggage... 

 

.... Sometimes there isn't space over someones seat and they have to put it somewhere else, then when the plane comes to a stop... they're straight up to attempt to beat the rush.

 

---------

 

As mentioned... Some routes are far more 'civilised' than others. 

 

Years ago, flying domestically within Indonesia....  (West Papua to Jakarata I think)...  the air-craft slowed to a halt, but clearly was not at the gate. 

I had an aisle seat and remained seated. The youngish lady (in a Hijab) next to me tried to climb over me !!!...  the planed moved again and she ended up sitting on my lap... 

...  I pointed out the seatbelt sign was not off and we weren't at the gate.

Minutes later we were chatting away and she was showing me photos... She was a Teaching inspector and had been visiting numerous schools...  

... A lovely lady, however, I have no idea why she felt such urgency to get off the air-craft that she felt the need to climb over me !!!

 

....  the behaviour of people is something that really interests me... 

Even the behavior and responses of some of the nastier bigoted kinds on this forum... I'm often left what drivers their stupidity.

 

 

 

Sometimes the 'driver' of this behavior is 'must be first', 'got to be first'.

7 minutes ago, 2long said:

I just have a lifestyle that requires me not wasting time, due to rolling over for other people, many of whom are of certain races and cultures.

 

   You mean that you dont wait your turn and you push ahead of others and you need to be first in every queue and you  flight and struggle to be first off a flight and first in the baggage reclaim  queue  ?

   Are you Chinese ? 

54 minutes ago, 2long said:

The 'Line' is for trolleys. There's no 'don't stand here' line that I know of.

Why stand far away from the carousel and watch the thing go slowly?

Plus, if you stand far from it, others will block your view.

Therefore, if you get off the plane before some others you can get a nice position at the carousel.

 

I do not act like a d*ck or stand in the way, but when travelling alone I'm very adept at doing my thing smoothly and efficiently without affecting or being affected by others. It's a dog eat dog world in these situations and if you snooze, you lose.

 

In most airports I've been to... theres a line... thats about 1m away from the carousel....  this is what I mean below - most of you will have seen it...  it seems travellers see it as a 'starting line' for a race !!!!...

 

If you want to debate whether its a 'no standing line' or 'no trolleys' then fair enough - you are probably right....   The point is - just like the rush to alight and air-craft, there is also some kind of 'rush' to get as close to the carousel as possible.... 

 

... its just a weird automatic mindset that 'masses' get into and there is not much more stupid than 'crowd behavior'... everyone copying everyone else and everyone scared to miss out... 

 

 

I was at the airport the other night....  it was crowded round the carousel....  

No biggie, I just stood back, chilled and sat on the seats..  by the time my bags arrived, most of the others had already received their bags and there was space anyway...

 

I'm sure Walfs bag comes off second because he's flys business class !!!

 

 

 

 

6 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   You mean that you dont wait your turn and you push ahead of others and you need to be first in every queue and you  flight and struggle to be first off a flight and first in the baggage reclaim  queue  ?

   Are you Chinese ? 

I think you know I'm not Chinese.

Neither do I know about any 'queue' to get off or plane or collect bags from the carousel. Maybe we visit different airports.

As an Englishman of a certain age, I'm very much a follower of queues. Never push in, nor allow others to do so.

I guess some readers are seeing me as that rude barger who cant wait, when this is not true.

I just don't hang around when there's no need to. Nor do I affect other people. For example, if those on here who claim not to be in a rush and wait for others to disembark first are seated ahead of me, it would be impossible for those seated behind them to leave the plane... which would cause flight delays. Airlines don't like delays, and want to turn planes around quickly. If someone stands up in front of me, I wait.

If someone's in front of me at the carousel, I would never barge through them like you do. I wait, or move to another place.

All I'm saying is that I don't loiter when there's no reason to. 

 

17 minutes ago, scorecard said:

 

Sometimes the 'driver' of this behavior is 'must be first', 'got to be first'.

 

Agreed....  FOMO (fear of missing out)...