Trump Joins the Axis. NATO Dead. WW111 Imminent?

[thesetat]

1 hour ago, MicroB said:

 

Poland is the biggest contributor of Starlink terminals, and is also paying Ukraine;s subscription to the service.

 

https://www.voanews.com/a/poland-pays-for-ukraine-s-starlink-subscription- users subscribing to the service.

says-its-deputy-pm/7984648.html

 

SpaceX has a commerical relationship with the Polish government. It is not a servent of the US government. The US government might regard "Starlink" as a controlled export, but they have made no indication they will block Russian subscribers.

 

I am not saying they will block Russians... i said they are threatening to block Ukraine if they do not want to reimburse some money being supplied by the US on their war with Russia.. 

[MicroB]

1 hour ago, thesetat said:

I am not saying they will block Russians... i said they are threatening to block Ukraine if they do not want to reimburse some money being supplied by the US on their war with Russia.. 

 

 

So the American government will effectively interfere in the contractural arrangements between a private US company and the Polish government, a NATO member.

 

Basically the stories going around about the American blocking Starlink are just that, stories.

 

The cash has mostly gone from the US government  to US companies, and into the paypackets of American workers, and shareholder dividands, and a bit flowing back to the US government in the form of taxes and reimbursements to the DoD for use of airlift.

 

It is within the ability of the Americans to deprive Russian and Iranian drone operators access to Starlink, which gives them an advantage.

[Lacessit]

2 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

He is placing power or embarrassment before world order?

 

Which is it?

Power?

Or...

Embarrassment?

 

Let's make up our minds here.

 

Embarrassment may be something Putin has on Trump.

 

No need to make up our minds, both factors may be involved.

[Yellowtail]

14 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Embarrassment may be something Putin has on Trump.

 

No need to make up our minds, both factors may be involved.

What could Putin possibly have on Trump that would embarrass him? 

 

 

[thesetat]

2 hours ago, MicroB said:

 

 

So the American government will effectively interfere in the contractural arrangements between a private US company and the Polish government, a NATO member.

 

Basically the stories going around about the American blocking Starlink are just that, stories.

 

The cash has mostly gone from the US government  to US companies, and into the paypackets of American workers, and shareholder dividands, and a bit flowing back to the US government in the form of taxes and reimbursements to the DoD for use of airlift.

 

It is within the ability of the Americans to deprive Russian and Iranian drone operators access to Starlink, which gives them an advantage.

The story i read was saying that Trump wants reimbursement of 500 mil for their assistance with weapons and aid and he want it repaid in minerals. Nothing about depriving Russia access to startlink. 

[thaibeachlovers]

On 2/20/2025 at 4:51 PM, Old Croc said:

He is cutting historic ties with Europe, Britain and even close neighbors.

Nothing lasts forever. Doesn't matter anyway, IMO, Seems Europe is going hard right in response to the dreadful lefty elites welcoming in the alien hordes and giving all their money to Ukraine. Seems to me they'll be more likely to ally with Russia than the US in future. Russia hasn't been hard core communist since Gorbachev took over, IMO.

NATO was set up to contain the manufactured Soviet "threat", and since the wall went down it's a military without a raison d'etra, and only used to poodle for the US in it's endless M E wars.

IMO it is time for the US to go home, and leave Europe to protect itself from it's imaginary enemies, meanwhile welcoming in the 5th column that is the real threat to the western future, IMO.

[thaibeachlovers]

4 hours ago, thesetat said:

I am not saying they will block Russians... i said they are threatening to block Ukraine if they do not want to reimburse some money being supplied by the US on their war with Russia.. 

Apparently the poor deluded Zelensky claims that it was all a gift. The US even made Britain pay off it's WW2 debt to the US, so why would it "gift" billions to Ukraine. Anyway, Trump doesn't care what Zelensky says. He wants the minerals, and he's going to get them.

I suspect the 500 billion is a negotiating ploy and the amount will reduce in the future once Zelensky comes to the table.

[thaibeachlovers]

On 2/20/2025 at 4:51 PM, Old Croc said:

The US President is expanding his lies and ambitions beyond his moronic followers at home  and is siding with former world adverseries against former allies. He is lying on the world stage and the outcome will be dire for Ukraine and perilous for other European countries in Russias territorial gun sights.  He is cutting historic ties with Europe, Britain and even close neighbors. He is placing personal wealth, power or embarrassment before world order. One man, and a coven of craven, religious nutcases, may destroy the planet. 

 

'I think that's over': Retired general declares death of key U.S. alliance

 

Excellent comedy post. I laughed like a drain at "One man, and a coven of craven, religious nutcases, may destroy the planet."

They may destroy the human race, but the planet will be fine. In a few million years it will be like we were never here.

[LatPhrao]

On 2/21/2025 at 2:47 PM, ChicagoExpat said:

Trump is a disaster but I'm not going to call for the murder of the elected President.  Sorry, but you're the traitor if you call for that.

Sorry not,  but you are complicit in the destruction of America, my country, by traitors from within. Put an end to Trump and his followers with Extreme Prejudice.

[LatPhrao]

On 2/21/2025 at 2:58 PM, SunnyinBangrak said:

Calling for the assassination of the landslide election winner and the primary force to tackle deep state fraud and corruption is really low. Isn't calling for violent death to political opponents an offence legally? Another reminder how crass and dishonest the lefts "nobody is above the law" mantra was.

Landslide? ROFL Too ridiculous to reply.  

[GypsyT]

16 hours ago, thesetat said:

The Biden admin has dumped so much money into the Ukraine without anything to show for it

I'd like to see Trump and Musk going to front lines to check if money is spend there 🙂

[Wrwest]

On 2/21/2025 at 3:53 PM, MicroB said:

 

 

Educator? I thought you lot were called teachers.

 

Isn't "Educator" a "Woke" term?

No, it is not. Had you checked ... I taught middle school, high school and undergraduate survey courses in American and European History retiring as Professor Emeritus. So, I'm thinking "educator" covers the bases more accurately.

[SunnyinBangrak]

1 hour ago, LatPhrao said:

Landslide? ROFL Too ridiculous to reply.  

 

[sharot724]

Trump demands $500 billion from Ukraine. Zelensky responds: "I cannot sell Ukraine."

[Samh]

4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I suspect the 500 billion is a negotiating ploy and the amount will reduce in the future once Zelensky comes to the table.

Zelensky hasn't been invited to the table.

 

[bannork]

1 hour ago, LatPhrao said:

Landslide? ROFL Too ridiculous to reply.  

In the popular vote Trump scored 49.9% to Harris's 48.3%. 

Yeah, that landslide was really overwhelming, lol 

[thaibeachlovers]

1 hour ago, Samh said:

Zelensky hasn't been invited to the table.

 

Eventually he has to be, even if it's only to inform him that he lost.

[thaibeachlovers]

1 hour ago, bannork said:

In the popular vote Trump scored 49.9% to Harris's 48.3%. 

Yeah, that landslide was really overwhelming, lol 

It's really scary that so many actually voted for that babbling idiot, Harris.

[thaibeachlovers]

2 hours ago, Wrwest said:

No, it is not. Had you checked ... I taught middle school, high school and undergraduate survey courses in American and European History retiring as Professor Emeritus. So, I'm thinking "educator" covers the bases more accurately.

I had loads of teachers that failed to "educate" me. I think teacher is more appropriate. I had three careers requiring me to pass exams to qualify, so it wasn't that I wasn't capable of learning, just that they were as useless as a wet paper bag.

[Yellowtail]

2 hours ago, Wrwest said:

No, it is not. Had you checked ... I taught middle school, high school and undergraduate survey courses in American and European History retiring as Professor Emeritus. So, I'm thinking "educator" covers the bases more accurately.

That explains a lot.

[thesetat]

10 hours ago, MicroB said:

 

 

So the American government will effectively interfere in the contractural arrangements between a private US company and the Polish government, a NATO member.

 

Basically the stories going around about the American blocking Starlink are just that, stories.

 

The cash has mostly gone from the US government  to US companies, and into the paypackets of American workers, and shareholder dividands, and a bit flowing back to the US government in the form of taxes and reimbursements to the DoD for use of airlift.

 

It is within the ability of the Americans to deprive Russian and Iranian drone operators access to Starlink, which gives them an advantage.

Who was talking about cash? I said weapons and aid for the military. 

[thesetat]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I had loads of teachers that failed to "educate" me. I think teacher is more appropriate. I had three careers requiring me to pass exams to qualify, so it wasn't that I wasn't capable of learning, just that they were as useless as a wet paper bag.

Hehe.. I have to agree with you... Especially in Thailand.. I am not even sure teacher fits their description... On a side note though. I learned more outside the classroom than I did inside of it. And I was at the top of my class throughout most of my schooling days. 

[bannork]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

It's really scary that so many actually voted for that babbling idiot, Harris.

Even scarier that 49.9% voted for the world's greatest liar, Trump.

[LatPhrao]

11 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Apparently the poor deluded Zelensky claims that it was all a gift. The US even made Britain pay off it's WW2 debt to the US, so why would it "gift" billions to Ukraine. Anyway, Trump doesn't care what Zelensky says. He wants the minerals, and he's going to get them.

I suspect the 500 billion is a negotiating ploy and the amount will reduce in the future once Zelensky comes to the table.

The usual MAGA lying and glorification and pandering of America's greatest traitor, felon Trump.  Way over your skis on history.  Lacking respect for a truly brave, courageous and heroic leader who has lead successfully battles against Putin, Russia, North Korean troops.  Not worthy to lick Zelensky's boots, you.   But a lickspittle for cowardly, deranged, backstabbing Trump.   

[thaibeachlovers]

20 hours ago, thesetat said:

Hehe.. I have to agree with you... Especially in Thailand.. I am not even sure teacher fits their description... On a side note though. I learned more outside the classroom than I did inside of it. And I was at the top of my class throughout most of my schooling days. 

Thank you. I also learned more outside the classroom than in one.

I wasn't top of my class- more like last, because I couldn't be bothered with the nonsense. While I wasn't brilliant in my career qualification exams, I certainly passed them, else I could not have had a career in them.

 

BTW, I'd have made more money driving a truck in an Aussie mine or driving a London tube train than I earned in nursing, so who was the fool for bothering to be a nurse?

[thaibeachlovers]

16 hours ago, LatPhrao said:

The usual MAGA lying and glorification and pandering of America's greatest traitor, felon Trump.  Way over your skis on history.  Lacking respect for a truly brave, courageous and heroic leader who has lead successfully battles against Putin, Russia, North Korean troops.  Not worthy to lick Zelensky's boots, you.   But a lickspittle for cowardly, deranged, backstabbing Trump.   

Zelensky was leading the troops from a trench in the front lines- well goodness me, who would have thought?

 

[Yellowtail]

16 hours ago, LatPhrao said:

The usual MAGA lying and glorification and pandering of America's greatest traitor, felon Trump.  Way over your skis on history.  Lacking respect for a truly brave, courageous and heroic leader who has lead successfully battles against Putin, Russia, North Korean troops.  Not worthy to lick Zelensky's boots, you.   But a lickspittle for cowardly, deranged, backstabbing Trump.   

Admit it, you get a little chubby thinking about licking Zelensky's boots, don't you? 

[thaibeachlovers]

16 hours ago, LatPhrao said:

The usual MAGA lying and glorification and pandering of America's greatest traitor, felon Trump.  Way over your skis on history.  Lacking respect for a truly brave, courageous and heroic leader who has lead successfully battles against Putin, Russia, North Korean troops.  Not worthy to lick Zelensky's boots, you.   But a lickspittle for cowardly, deranged, backstabbing Trump.   

Since I didn't say anything in the post you quoted "glorifying" Trump, perhaps you should take lessons in comprehension.

 

At least Zelensky has a career to fall back on when he becomes an ex president- comedian. He's a real joke even now.

[farangkinok]

On 2/20/2025 at 6:57 PM, Mike_Hunt said:

The cowardly EU needs to send some boots on the ground. 

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

 

[farangkinok]

On 2/20/2025 at 7:22 PM, Mike_Hunt said:

Let's face it, the EU is lazy.  

and stupid