Trump Joins the Axis. NATO Dead. WW111 Imminent?

[thesetat]

1 hour ago, MicroB said:

 

Poland is the biggest contributor of Starlink terminals, and is also paying Ukraine;s subscription to the service.

 

https://www.voanews.com/a/poland-pays-for-ukraine-s-starlink-subscription- users subscribing to the service.

says-its-deputy-pm/7984648.html

 

SpaceX has a commerical relationship with the Polish government. It is not a servent of the US government. The US government might regard "Starlink" as a controlled export, but they have made no indication they will block Russian subscribers.

 

I am not saying they will block Russians... i said they are threatening to block Ukraine if they do not want to reimburse some money being supplied by the US on their war with Russia.. 

[MicroB]

1 hour ago, thesetat said:

I am not saying they will block Russians... i said they are threatening to block Ukraine if they do not want to reimburse some money being supplied by the US on their war with Russia.. 

 

 

So the American government will effectively interfere in the contractural arrangements between a private US company and the Polish government, a NATO member.

 

Basically the stories going around about the American blocking Starlink are just that, stories.

 

The cash has mostly gone from the US government  to US companies, and into the paypackets of American workers, and shareholder dividands, and a bit flowing back to the US government in the form of taxes and reimbursements to the DoD for use of airlift.

 

It is within the ability of the Americans to deprive Russian and Iranian drone operators access to Starlink, which gives them an advantage.

[Lacessit]

2 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

He is placing power or embarrassment before world order?

 

Which is it?

Power?

Or...

Embarrassment?

 

Let's make up our minds here.

 

Embarrassment may be something Putin has on Trump.

 

No need to make up our minds, both factors may be involved.

[Yellowtail]

14 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Embarrassment may be something Putin has on Trump.

 

No need to make up our minds, both factors may be involved.

What could Putin possibly have on Trump that would embarrass him? 

 

 

[thesetat]

2 hours ago, MicroB said:

 

 

So the American government will effectively interfere in the contractural arrangements between a private US company and the Polish government, a NATO member.

 

Basically the stories going around about the American blocking Starlink are just that, stories.

 

The cash has mostly gone from the US government  to US companies, and into the paypackets of American workers, and shareholder dividands, and a bit flowing back to the US government in the form of taxes and reimbursements to the DoD for use of airlift.

 

It is within the ability of the Americans to deprive Russian and Iranian drone operators access to Starlink, which gives them an advantage.

The story i read was saying that Trump wants reimbursement of 500 mil for their assistance with weapons and aid and he want it repaid in minerals. Nothing about depriving Russia access to startlink. 

[thaibeachlovers]

On 2/20/2025 at 4:51 PM, Old Croc said:

He is cutting historic ties with Europe, Britain and even close neighbors.

Nothing lasts forever. Doesn't matter anyway, IMO, Seems Europe is going hard right in response to the dreadful lefty elites welcoming in the alien hordes and giving all their money to Ukraine. Seems to me they'll be more likely to ally with Russia than the US in future. Russia hasn't been hard core communist since Gorbachev took over, IMO.

NATO was set up to contain the manufactured Soviet "threat", and since the wall went down it's a military without a raison d'etra, and only used to poodle for the US in it's endless M E wars.

IMO it is time for the US to go home, and leave Europe to protect itself from it's imaginary enemies, meanwhile welcoming in the 5th column that is the real threat to the western future, IMO.

[thaibeachlovers]

4 hours ago, thesetat said:

I am not saying they will block Russians... i said they are threatening to block Ukraine if they do not want to reimburse some money being supplied by the US on their war with Russia.. 

Apparently the poor deluded Zelensky claims that it was all a gift. The US even made Britain pay off it's WW2 debt to the US, so why would it "gift" billions to Ukraine. Anyway, Trump doesn't care what Zelensky says. He wants the minerals, and he's going to get them.

I suspect the 500 billion is a negotiating ploy and the amount will reduce in the future once Zelensky comes to the table.

[thaibeachlovers]

On 2/20/2025 at 4:51 PM, Old Croc said:

The US President is expanding his lies and ambitions beyond his moronic followers at home  and is siding with former world adverseries against former allies. He is lying on the world stage and the outcome will be dire for Ukraine and perilous for other European countries in Russias territorial gun sights.  He is cutting historic ties with Europe, Britain and even close neighbors. He is placing personal wealth, power or embarrassment before world order. One man, and a coven of craven, religious nutcases, may destroy the planet. 

 

'I think that's over': Retired general declares death of key U.S. alliance

 

Excellent comedy post. I laughed like a drain at "One man, and a coven of craven, religious nutcases, may destroy the planet."

They may destroy the human race, but the planet will be fine. In a few million years it will be like we were never here.