Should European leaders confront Trump and tell him what they think about him?

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7 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

 

Israel and the USA are the big problem. And zionism is a problem. 

Many people, including Jews, understand this and talk about it.

 

But some people, including many members here, don't want to see that not all Jews support Israel's crimes. 

When europe becomes like the middle east they are gonna wish they had israel on their side

[hotsun]

You think its europe and muslims vs israel and america. Its actually just muslims vs non muslims

[Harrisfan]

2 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Why didn't you add that you have the biggest d#@#? 

You read leftist msm and believe it. The same leftism msm who said Biden was fine. Credibility zero.

[Eloquent pilgrim]

36 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I definitely like his articles and videos.

Someone has to tell the truth. 

 

No surprise at all; a lot of antisemites are Owen Jones fanboys.

 

 

[WorriedNoodle]

14 hours ago, connda said:

  European leaders don't realize they have become irrelevant.  Their own voters are going to let them know in 2025.  Then watch them release their inner totalitarians.  All eyes on the German elections on March 23rd.  That will be a bell-weather of what's to come. Stand by....... 

While it’s true that populist movements have gained traction in Europe in recent years, the narrative that European voters will suddenly shift to supporting Trump-like politics of misinformation wrapped as truth just because Trump says so is a bit far-fetched.

[HappyExpat57]

Leaders around the world are generally more inelligent than the man-child suffering from lizard-brain. THEY know he doesn't care and wouldn't waste the time.

[OneMoreFarang]

1 hour ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

No surprise at all; a lot of antisemites are Owen Jones fanboys.

 

 

People who don't want to hear the truth obviously don't like him. You can't really blame Owen for that one.

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27 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

People who don't want to hear the truth obviously don't like him. You can't really blame Owen for that one.

 

The truth from a whimpering little antisemite slug like Owen Jones …. ha ha ha 

 

 

[Jingthing]

3 hours ago, Lacessit said:

The truth is Canada could black out New York, Maine, New Hampshire and Vermont at the flick of a switch, and ensure power rationing in Minnesota and Michigan.

 

It could also sell the 50% of oil it supplies the US elsewhere. How long do you think effete Americans would be lining up at gasoline stations?

 

Then there's the auto industry, another symbiotic relationship.

 

Sure, America could damage Canada seriously. However, it would damage itself just as much.

 

 

 

 

Of course the U.S. would pay a big price for doing that but it's clear that if that commitment was made, Canada would be in the much weaker position. 

[Harrisfan]

3 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

Leaders around the world are generally more inelligent than the man-child suffering from lizard-brain. THEY know he doesn't care and wouldn't waste the time.

Not true at all. UK guy is an idiot as is Macron and Trudeau was too. Albanese the dumbest of the lot.

[Negita43]

17 hours ago, connda said:

Should European leaders confront Trump and tell him what they think about him?

YES

[ericthai]

17 hours ago, stupidfarang said:

Tell that to the men and women who fought two world wars, tell that to Canada, Australia, UK, NZ, Denmark, Poland, Holland, France, Germany etc who all came to help the USA during their wars in Iraq and Afaganistan, and do not for get the American war in Vietnam.

 

The only pussie here is you with your very stupid comments.

I agree with you plenty of brave men in Europe, Australia, etc.

 

however, the Vietnam war was not an American war, the US got dragged into it.
what started the Vietnam war was Vietnam wanting independence from France, which then divided Vietnam into two groups (north/ south). , one backed by communist and one backed by the US. This was not a war the US started.  
 

[MicroB]

On 2/21/2025 at 12:03 PM, save the frogs said:

Canada might cozy up to the EU and there even talks of Canada joining the EU. 

 

 

I hadn't seen that. Very interesting when you consider Saint Pierre and Miquelon; that tiny vestige of France in North America. Canada shares a border with the EU! Possible considering the UK's membership of the CPTPP.

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5 minutes ago, MicroB said:

 

I hadn't seen that. Very interesting when you consider Saint Pierre and Miquelon; that tiny vestige of France in North America. Canada shares a border with the EU! Possible considering the UK's membership of the CPTPP.

Yeah, maybe doesn't make sense since it doesnt share a border.

[MicroB]

20 hours ago, impulse said:

 

There was also a time when the EU and USA had similar GDP's.  Now, the EU has a little more than half of the USA's GDP.  I don't know about the rest of the American voters, but I don't want us to follow that path.

 

Sure.  Euro leaders should confront Trump.  Good luck with that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

You mean GDP per capita. The reason is obviously the incorporation of former Warsaw Pact countries, increasing the popuation, but not adding to the GDP.

 

The same effect would be seen if the US solved its immigration crisis by declaring Mexico and the rest of Central as America, GDP would rise a bit, but GDP per capita would fall. But that doesn't mean an American in, say, Rhode Island, is suddenly earning less, and an Honduran peasant farmer is suddenly feeling like a Gringo. But it would be a crude measure, because stuff in Honduras would still be cheaper than in Rhode Island. There was a time when one could take a Ryan Air flight  to Talin, and have a really cheap weekend; cheap beer, cheap food, lovely sights. Not now. EU membership has benefited these states. All the Polish plumbers went home, and Poland is doing very well now. So, you need to express GDP per capita PPP. And if you started breaking it down by EU member state, you really need to also break down US numbers by State. In the EU and US, there are states where GDP per capita are very high, and low.

 

€125,043 in Luxembourg , 2024

€15,773 in Bulgaria, 2024

$117,332 nominal GDP per capita in New York , 2024

$53,061 nominal GDP per capita in Mississippi, 2024

 

Luxembourg is a really expensive place to be, so everyone nips over the border to Germany for a cheap beer. Bulgaria offers pretty good cheap skiing and beach holidays. Its all knock off gear on the slopes, full of poor Bulgarians enjoying a snowboarding holiday on their Chinese boards.

 

Thing is, I lived in the US. Yeah, property is expensive in New York. I have some of my reports in New York on a wage that in UK terms seems pretty decent. But I know they can hardly scrape the money for a rabbit hutch apartment, like the reality of living in London for most people. From living in Alabama (which in GDP per capita is not much better than Mississippi)). Yeah, it seemed you could get a lot of house for your bob there, but a can of coke was the same as New York, so was a burger. Some people did seem to live in abject poverty. And I read now its not uncommon for people to sleep in cars in the US.. On the flipside, my cinoany has operations in India. My opposite number over there has a wise old head. Yeah, his salary is less than mine. But he has a swish apartment, with a brand new marble bathroom. a couple of maids, a driver, plus a substantial country pile. He lives a good life. I am sure most here are attracted to Thailand because you can live a good life very cheaply, some might even say its a better quality of life from where they are from.

 

So when it comes down to the individual fellow in the street, and how they feel, its complex. My junior Indian employees naturTin the media. But then I point out that in India, I can get a very decent beer for 50 rupees, a lovely meal for 200, and in fact Westerners are looking to retire to live in Asia.

 

Different countries have different priorities in life. Americans like having 2 zillion TV channels, and take out food all the time. Me. I'm happy with 4 channels and a good homecooked meal with no bleached chicken. Yes, I pay a lot more for fuel, but I am less panc'd than my US colleagues when there are changes in gas price (actually the duty on fuel somewhat cushions fluctautions). I run a V8 Jag and MX5 in the UK, and a 10 year old Fiesta and brand new CX3 in Thailand. I have a $700,000 house when old friends of mine in Missouri, with, on paper (US Army Colonel, University Professor), a higher income than me, struggle with a $400k house. Its a nice house mind. Their other outgoings seem higher, despite hunting all of their meat.

 

And probably those dirt poor Bulgarians, when not on the ski slopes or on a Black Sea beach, are tucking into Gyuvech or Shopska Salad. Their car will be crap though, like a 10 year old Mercedes or BMW, with leather.

 

 

[stevenl]

No, they shouldn't confront him. Use him where possible and for the rest just ignore him.