British Man Arrested in Thailand After 25-Year Visa Overstay

[Chongalulu]

  On 2/26/2025 at 8:15 AM, Liverpool Lou said:

State benefits cannot be paid to non-UK residents.  State pension is not a benefit,

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"The State Pension is an existing welfare benefit that forms part of the United Kingdom Government's pension arrangements. Benefits vary depending on the age of the individual and their contribution record. Currently anyone can make a claim, provided they have a minimum number of qualifying years of contributions."
It IS a benefit,just based on NI qualifying years. In fact that doesn’t even have to be financial contributions. If unemployed and claiming benefits / signed off sick your NI contribution is made for you .

[baansgr]

  On 2/26/2025 at 9:12 AM, Liverpool Lou said:

You think that private pensions can be accessed at any age?  

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In some circumstances such as disability...yes they can👍 

[Artisi]

  On 2/26/2025 at 9:29 AM, Chongalulu said:

The 20k overstay maximum fine is less than what he would have paid for 25 years visa extensions. He’s £ quids in ! 

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That might be right, except he won't be resident in Thailand any more and banned for probably 10 years, therefore he's lost out even though he saved £££. 

[Liverpool Lou]

  On 2/26/2025 at 9:01 AM, brianburi said:

  On 2/26/2025 at 8:15 AM, Liverpool Lou said:

State benefits cannot be paid to non-UK residents.  State pension is not a benefit,

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https://petition.parliament.uk/archived/petitions/121267

 

were you one that signed this.  Try and keep up with the times........

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By "state benefits" I was referring to state social security benefits which are not payable to those outside the UK.   Try to keep up with what I'm posting.

[brianburi]

  On 2/26/2025 at 9:24 AM, Liverpool Lou said:

I know what the rules in the UK are (which is what the discusssion on this thread relates to).

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 your credibility has just skipped out the Suk bar window you are sat in, the UK state pension has been legally classed as a state benefit for some time.

 

[Liverpool Lou]

  On 2/26/2025 at 9:46 AM, baansgr said:

  On 2/26/2025 at 9:12 AM, Liverpool Lou said:

You think that private pensions can be accessed at any age?  

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In some circumstances such as disability...yes they can👍 

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Yes, but not in normal circumstances which is what is being discussed.  No point in confusing things with very low percentage exceptions that do not apply to this thread. 

[GammaGlobulin]

  On 2/26/2025 at 9:29 AM, Chongalulu said:

The 20k overstay maximum fine is less than what he would have paid for 25 years visa extensions. He’s £ quids in ! 

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Yes.

Agree.

Just depends on what penalty he must finally pay.

And this, is still a known unknown.

 

[Liverpool Lou]

  On 2/26/2025 at 9:53 AM, brianburi said:

 your credibility has just skipped out the Suk bar window you are sat in, the UK state pension has been legally classed as a state benefit for some time.

 

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My credibility in your eyes is irrelevant and inconsequential.

[brianburi]

  On 2/26/2025 at 9:51 AM, Liverpool Lou said:

By "state benefits" I was referring to state social security benefits which are not payable to those outside the UK.   Try to keep up with what I'm posting.

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you weren't posting that at all.   Next waffle from you will be about ''life in the IDC'' I expect.

[brianburi]

  On 2/26/2025 at 9:57 AM, Liverpool Lou said:

My credibility in your eyes is irrelevant and inconsequential.

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congrats on using two big words in one sentence.  Please visit again with some more......

[Liverpool Lou]

  On 2/26/2025 at 9:58 AM, brianburi said:

you weren't posting that at all.   Next waffle from you will be about ''life in the IDC'' I expect.

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No, never been there so won't be posting about IDC life.   I could tell you about life in Lumpini police jail, Thong Lo police cells, CSD cells and Klong Prem, though.    But I won't.

[Nick Carter icp]

  On 2/26/2025 at 9:43 AM, NoshowJones said:

I don't think so, Thailand is not a good enough country now to attract enough westerners to come here.

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    The many many people applying for five year visa around the World suggest otherwise . Seems to be ,many many people wanting to come and live in Thailand , FB pages are full of people asking how to apply for the new DTV five year visas

[Liverpool Lou]

  On 2/26/2025 at 10:00 AM, brianburi said:

  On 2/26/2025 at 9:57 AM, Liverpool Lou said:

My credibility in your eyes is irrelevant and inconsequential.

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congrats on using two big words in one sentence.  Please visit again with some more......

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You think that "in" and "is" are big words?   Wow, that explains a lot.

[4MyEgo]

  On 2/25/2025 at 9:08 AM, snoop1130 said:

Immigration officials expressed disbelief at the extent of his overstay. "This is one of the longest visa overstays we’ve ever encountered," they noted.

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I'd love to know if his Passports had any of those "under the counter" extension stamps in them, or did he just not even bother ?

 

Guess I'll never know.

[FritsSikkink]

  On 2/26/2025 at 8:57 AM, MikeandDow said:

So he is 60   i was 50 when my pension started

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60-25=35 didn't work that much then.

[chrischronic]

Can someone in this situation avoid deportation if they hired a lawyer and paid before being caught? I am wondering if a lawyer could prevent deportation and take care of visa issues, because I have seen advertising for visa overstays on lawyers' sites and office buildings.

[MikeandDow]

  On 2/26/2025 at 10:16 AM, FritsSikkink said:

60-25=35 didn't work that much then.

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You are assuming full pension  there is part pension

there is no details in the OP so all this is Assuptions

[baansgr]

  On 2/26/2025 at 9:54 AM, Liverpool Lou said:

Yes, but not in normal circumstances which is what is being discussed.  No point in confusing things with very low percentage exceptions that do not apply to this thread. 

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I was simply replying to your statement about accessing private pensions at any time, which I replied yes they can.. 👍 and this thread is nothing to do with pensions, it's about overstay 😁 

[Harrisfan]

  On 2/26/2025 at 10:22 AM, MikeandDow said:

You are assuming full pension  there is part pension

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The guy is a bludger. Couldnt afford visa fees, stop working age 35. Must have sponged off his family.

[cowellandrew]

  On 2/25/2025 at 9:53 PM, NanLaew said:

 

Sorry, but that's classified.

 

I could tell you, but then I would have to kill you.

 

Regards,

22 not out in Isaan

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In 1972, a crack Brit unit was sent to prison by a military court for a crime he didn't commit. This man promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade to the  underground in Chiang Mai until yesterday Today, still wanted by the government, they survive as soldiers of fortune.
If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire... The B-Team.

[sambum]

  On 2/25/2025 at 11:42 AM, GammaGlobulin said:

How much will the fine be?

Or, does he just pay the usual maximum, which is quite low.

 

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Maximum means what it says on the tin! I think it's 20K.

[daejung]

I guess he will be banned forever.

Will he go to jail too ?

[Harrisfan]

  On 2/26/2025 at 10:26 AM, sambum said:

 

Maximum means what it says on the tin! I think it's 20K.

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Only 40 days at 500 a day.

[Caldera]

  On 2/26/2025 at 9:28 AM, Liverpool Lou said:

What did he claim?

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When Big Joke was immigration chief, he famously (foolishly) claimed that he will arrest ALL overstayers within six months.

 

And yet, they are still finding overstayers who have been here before, during and after Big Joke's crackdown. A certain amount of schadenfreude considering his own fate is in order, I think.

[MikeandDow]

  On 2/26/2025 at 9:51 AM, Liverpool Lou said:

By "state benefits" I was referring to state social security benefits which are not payable to those outside the UK.   Try to keep up with what I'm posting.

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You keep changing !!! told you before  State clearly what you are talking about, your credibility is gone

[sambum]

  On 2/26/2025 at 10:28 AM, Harrisfan said:

Only 40 days at 500 a day.

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Which = 20K

[Caldera]

  On 2/26/2025 at 10:28 AM, daejung said:

I guess he will be banned forever.

Will he go to jail too ?

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He will be banned for 10 years. He will go into immigration detention pending his deportation.

[Nick Carter icp]

  On 2/26/2025 at 10:20 AM, chrischronic said:

Can someone in this situation avoid deportation if they hired a lawyer and paid before being caught? I am wondering if a lawyer could prevent deportation and take care of visa issues, because I have seen advertising for visa overstays on lawyers' sites and office buildings.

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   How long have you been on overstay for ?

[Harrisfan]

  On 2/26/2025 at 10:31 AM, sambum said:

 

Which = 20K

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Cheap for 25 years 

[sambum]

  On 2/26/2025 at 10:30 AM, Caldera said:

 

When Big Joke was immigration chief, he famously (foolishly) claimed that he will arrest ALL overstayers within six months.

 

And yet, they are still finding overstayers who have been here before, during and after Big Joke's crackdown. A certain amount of schadenfreude considering his own fate is in order, I think.

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