US Halts Military Aid to Ukraine Amid Push for Peace Talks

[frank83628]

16 minutes ago, Galong said:

Reality check: A large portion of U.S. aid to Ukraine benefits the American economy, particularly the defense industry. The money isn’t sent as cash but is used to replenish U.S. military stockpiles after weapons are sent to Ukraine. This funds major defense contractors like Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, and Boeing, creating jobs and boosting production in states like Texas, Alabama, and Pennsylvania. It also modernizes the U.S. military without extra taxpayer costs. Additionally, supporting Ukraine weakens Russia and stabilizes global markets, indirectly benefiting U.S. economic interests. Much of the aid is a stimulus for American defense jobs and industry.

And who benefits from those billions, the floor worker doing the 5 day week or the CEO's and share holders not lifting a finger?

[riclag]

11 minutes ago, Galong said:

Reality check: A large portion of U.S. aid to Ukraine benefits the American economy, particularly the defense industry. The money isn’t sent as cash but is used to replenish U.S. military stockpiles after weapons are sent to Ukraine. This funds major defense contractors like Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, and Boeing, creating jobs and boosting production in states like Texas, Alabama, and Pennsylvania. It also modernizes the U.S. military without extra taxpayer costs. Additionally, supporting Ukraine weakens Russia and stabilizes global markets, indirectly benefiting U.S. economic interests. Much of the aid is a stimulus for American defense jobs and industry.

3 years of Americans paying out and Z cant account for a big chunk.

 

 

[Lacessit]

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

 

He'd clearly rather just take the cold hard cash. 

 

A bit like when I gave my sister-in-law a car to take her kids to school and she said "Can't you just sell it and give me the money?" 😄

 

It must be quite marvelous to telepathically peer into the mind of a leader thousands of kilometres away from you.

[bubblegum]

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

When did Zelensky ask for boots on the ground?

 

Braindead are any people who think a treaty of any kind signed with Putin is worth the paper it is written on.

 

Trump is a Russian asset. The rest of the world had better reset any alliances or intelligence sharing with America on that basis.

You don't get it. If 47 (I refuse to write his name) HAD made such a deal his dumbass followers would be applauding. No matter what he does or say they find a way to make him "great".

[bubblegum]

6 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Interesting you bring up WWII. Without the USA and the USSR how do you think things would have turned out?

You'd be speaking German.

[Eric Loh]

4 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Perhaps Biden inc should have made the negotiation table in the beginnng them would have saved 100000s lives

Without Biden aids, Russia would have taken Ukraine. Russia can’t be trusted in any negotiation. History have proven that convincingly. 

[cjinchiangrai]

3 hours ago, frank83628 said:

🤡🤡🤡Amazing how you're attacking someone that actively trying to end a war

He is actively trying to surrender to his boss, the Russian thug.

[simple1]

3 hours ago, frank83628 said:

Where has he 'clearly stated' this....show  a direct quote from Putin himself 

 

It has been reported numerous times with quotes from Putin's speeches...

 

Over the past year, Vladimir Putin has compared himself to empire-building eighteenth century Russian Czar Peter the Great, and has attempted to annex entire regions of Ukraine while declaring that he is “returning historically Russian lands.” 

 

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/putins-plan-for-a-new-russian-empire-includes-both-ukraine-and-belarus/

 

Speaking after visiting an exhibition to celebrate the 350th anniversary of Peter's birth on Thursday, Putin drew a parallel to his invasion of Ukraine.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/putin-ukraine-russia-tsar-peter-great-imperialism-rcna32909

[frank83628]

1 hour ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

A typical sick biased and simpletons view of a war of aggression initiated illegally by Russia focused on pushing for an end to the conflict on Russia's terms rather than genuinely addressing the humanitarian crisis caused by Russia, and no one else.

Until you accept the the war was provoked you will live in delusion land. The exhead of nato Jens stoltenberg even said so in a speech. You really should read more than the BBC, Guardian and the BBC 

 

https://responsiblestatecraft.org/russia-ukraine-nato-expansion/

[simple1]

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

You seem confused. Trump wasn't POTUS when it started so what "conspiracy" are you talking about it?

If he ends it soon he probably will get the Nobel.

 

Seems like you want more years of death and destruction for Ukrainians.

 

The conflict in Ukraine was underway during trump's first Administration, I recall approx 10,000 killed from 2014 in the Donbas region until the invasion.

[Yellowtail]

14 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

It must be quite marvelous to telepathically peer into the mind of a leader thousands of kilometres away from you.

Like you with Trump pops? 

[Chomper Higgot]

19 minutes ago, riclag said:

3 years of Americans paying out and Z cant account for a big chunk.

 

 

That’s tens of $Billions more than the aid the U.S. has given which anyway is for most part weapons and ammunition.

 

Much of the ammunition is buried in hapless Russian cannon fodder.

[rough diamond]

24 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Interesting you bring up WWII. Without the USA and the USSR how do you think things would have turned out?

Without Japan attacking you the war would not have spread so far!

[frank83628]

1 minute ago, simple1 said:

 

It has been reported numerous times with quotes from Putin's speeches...

 

Over the past year, Vladimir Putin has compared himself to empire-building eighteenth century Russian Czar Peter the Great, and has attempted to annex entire regions of Ukraine while declaring that he is “returning historically Russian lands.” 

 

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/putins-plan-for-a-new-russian-empire-includes-both-ukraine-and-belarus/

 

Speaking after visiting an exhibition to celebrate the 350th anniversary of Peter's birth on Thursday, Putin drew a parallel to his invasion of Ukraine.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/putin-ukraine-russia-tsar-peter-great-imperialism-rcna32909

A direct quote from Putin him self not  'its reported' or 'a leaked document' or an opinion piece. 

To save you looking again, it doenst exist. Putin is a clever man, do you really think if his intention was to retanke past Russian territories he'd be announcing it ? Putin is clever, you are the oppoiste. 

[Yellowtail]

Just now, simple1 said:

 

The conflict in Ukraine was underway during trump's first Administration, I recall approx 10,000 killed from 2014 in the Donbas region until the invasion.

Exactly. When did the left start caring about Ukraine anyways?

 

Obama seemed to love Russia and Putin, not as much as he loved Iran, but a good bit. 

 

Remember in the Debate when Romney claimed Russian was the greatest geopolitical threat, and Obama scoffing and joking: Senator, the '80s called and want their foreign policy back. 
Remember Obama caught on a hot mike begging Putin for "space" until after the election in exchange for canceling missile defense.
Remember the "Russian Reset".
Remember Obama's refusal to sell defensive weapons to Ukraine.
Remember Obama did nothing in 2014 when Putin invaded and began the occupation of Crimea. 

Then Trump places sanctions on Russia. 
Then Trump kills 200 of Russia's Wagner Group mercenaries in Syria.
Then Trump begins shipping arms, including Javelin missiles to Ukraine. 

 

Now remember Biden cancelling sanctions on Russia, including those imposed by Trump to gain favor with Putin. 
Now remember Biden halting arms sales to Ukraine to gain favor with Putin. 
Now remember Biden's surrender debacle in Afghanistan, emboldening Putin. 
Now remember Biden saying that the US would not respond to Russia invading Ukraine, if it were only a minor invasion, further emboldening Putin. 

The left seemed to care nothing about Ukraine until it became politically expedient for them to use in attacking Trump and to pretend Trump was a Russian asset. 

 

The American left would rather see every Ukrainian dead and half of Europe flattened than to see a peace agreement negotiated by Trump. 

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, Harrisfan said:

Putin has more cards to play. Nukes plus bigger army. Only an idiot would insult Putin. The left is stupid.

I see you’ve been at the Chamberlain again.

[frank83628]

23 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

It must be quite marvelous to telepathically peer into the mind of a leader thousands of kilometres away from you.

You all seem to know what and how Putin thinks from you laptops or phone screens

[Harrisfan]

25 minutes ago, bubblegum said:

You don't get it. If 47 (I refuse to write his name) HAD made such a deal his dumbass followers would be applauding. No matter what he does or say they find a way to make him "great".

Says a guy who thought DJT was worthless. 

[Harrisfan]

1 minute ago, frank83628 said:

You all seem to know what and how Putin thinks from you laptops or phone screens

They do just like their election predictions.

[Harrisfan]

4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I see you’ve been at the Chamberlain again.

Still no facts. One day perhaps. 

[frank83628]

1 hour ago, Airalee said:

Yeah…sure.

 

 

That will be taiwan, I don't think theyde get away with another pandemic 

[Harrisfan]

Just now, frank83628 said:

That will be taiwan, I don't think theyde get away with another pandemic 

Lefties run from one thing to another. What happened to climate crisis thing?

[sambum]

29 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Without Biden aids, Russia would have taken Ukraine. Russia can’t be trusted in any negotiation. History have proven that convincingly. 

 

I think Zelensky mentioned that they have broken ceasefires 25 times in this war.

[bokningar]

6 hours ago, Social Media said:

 

The United States has decided to pause military aid to Ukraine, with the White House emphasizing the need for a commitment to peace from all parties involved. "The President has been clear that he is focused on peace. We need our partners to be committed to that goal as well.

 

We are pausing and reviewing our aid to ensure that it is contributing to a solution," a White House official told CBS News, as reported by the BBC. Reports indicate that all weapons currently in transit to Ukraine will be put on hold. Bloomberg adds that US military equipment, including weapons still at depots in Poland, will also be affected by this pause. Officials suggest that this measure is temporary and will remain in place until President Trump is satisfied that Ukraine is demonstrating a commitment to peace negotiations with Russia.  

 

The Trump administration appears to be pressing Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to accept an economic agreement regarding mineral resources and to engage in peace talks with Russia, rather than providing him with the security assurances he has requested. Instead of focusing on military support, Trump’s aides have shifted discussions toward potential "economic assurances" for Ukraine.  

 

The timing of this move is significant, occurring less than 24 hours before President Trump’s scheduled address to Congress. This address presents him with an opportunity to highlight his administration’s actions and achievements, with securing a peace deal between Ukraine and Russia being a priority he has long pursued.  

 

During an interview with Fox News, Senator JD Vance stated that the possibility of renewed negotiations remains open, but only if Ukraine is serious about peace. "Of course, the door is open," Vance said, adding, "So long as Zelensky is willing to seriously talk peace. You can't come into the Oval Office or anywhere else and refuse to even discuss the details of a peace deal."

 

According to Vance, the core issue is Zelensky’s insistence on security guarantees before engaging in peace discussions, whereas the White House maintains that such assurances should only come after a deal is reached. "When they're willing to talk peace, I think President Trump will be the first person to pick up the phone," Vance stated.  

 

As the situation unfolds, the halt in military aid marks a major shift in US policy toward the ongoing conflict, signaling a push for diplomatic resolutions over continued military assistance.

 

Based on a report by BBC  2025-03-04

 

 

So know we know, US is run by an Russian asset. The world will never be the same again.

 

 

[Harrisfan]

2 minutes ago, sambum said:

 

I think Zelensky mentioned that they have broken ceasefires 25 times in this war.

Well then keep fighting dancing boy.

[Dan O]

16 minutes ago, rough diamond said:

Without Japan attacking you the war would not have spread so far!

I think given the fact that Japan attacked America indicates how far the war was spreading. What history books are you reading?

[rough diamond]

22 minutes ago, Dan O said:

I think given the fact that Japan attacked America indicates how far the war was spreading. What history books are you reading?

Accurate ones!

[rough diamond]

43 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

You all seem to know what and how Putin thinks from you laptops or phone screens

So do you going by your posts.

[rough diamond]

43 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Still no facts. One day perhaps. 

I think/hope that you meant to post;

"Still no facts as usual but one day perhaps I will find some and post them with appropriate and accurate links."

 

[rough diamond]

44 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Lefties run from one thing to another. What happened to climate crisis thing?

The connection and or meaning between your two sentences in the quote above is what?