Ukraine’s Fate Was Sealed Long Before Aid Was Cut

[thaibeachlovers]

52 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

Putin is a pacifist compared that the old man Biden.

 

Biden will be the worst prez in History.

Just listen to Jeff Sachs talk about Biden's last two years in office as being one in the complete fog of dementia.

And yet, they still tried to elect him for Prez, even though a larger percentage of his brain had been rotted out, due to dementia.

 

This idea of deceit and deception is abominable.

Biden was abominable.

 

Biden did more damage due to having more power than Putin.

Maybe just a slight hyperbole, maybe...

 

I agree with all of that.

However, had Harris been elected he'd be the second worst president in US history.

[thaibeachlovers]

5 hours ago, ExpatOilWorker said:

 

I find it amazing that your lot complain that every time Trump says anything he is lying, yet you claim he is telling the truth when he says something you want to attack him for. Make up your minds which it is.

[rough diamond]

1 hour ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Maybe just a slight hyperbole,

Why don't you just stick to posting your normal hyperbole rubbish and stay out of serious subjects.

[nauseus]

1 hour ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

Biden the GREAT WAR-MONGERER.....truly.

 

 

 

Well, I didn't say that either.

[ExpatOilWorker]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I find it amazing that your lot complain that every time Trump says anything he is lying, yet you claim he is telling the truth when he says something you want to attack him for. Make up your minds which it is.

Did tRUmp tell a truth?

I totally missed that, when did that happen?

 

[mrwebb8825]

On 3/6/2025 at 1:00 AM, bkk6060 said:

I believe Biden accomplished what he wanted. To kill as many Russians as possible without having first line responsibility.  I bet he is very happy how it worked out.

Maybe, but I don't believe he was trying to "Kill as many Russians as possible". That's just a side benefit.

10/28/21, 9:39 AM Biden lifts US sanctions on major Russian pipeline
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/biden-lifts-us-sanctions-on-major-russian-pipeline/ar-AAKaRHA 1/10

 

And in return Russia is doing it's best to eliminate any and all paper trails of Biden Family crime.

[Pique Dard]

On 3/6/2025 at 1:07 AM, Social Media said:

Now, with Trump cutting off aid entirely, Ukraine is left in an even more desperate position. But the truth is, long before Trump’s decision, the West had already laid the groundwork for Ukraine’s current predicament.

 

Why don't you tell us how long you want this war to go on, and how many dead, wounded, widows, widowers, and orphans it will take before you are satisfied, and peace returns?

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, Pique Dard said:

Why don't you tell us how long you want this war to go on, and how many dead, wounded, widows, widowers, and orphans it will take before you are satisfied, and peace returns?

You don't mean peace. You mean Ukraine should surrender. Why doesn't Russia just leave then instead? 

[DonniePeverley]

I'm curious as to when the UK signs a cheque for 2 billion to Ukraine, like last week, how that helps in the war effort in the short term?

 

Do they take that money and go buy military equipment, if so from where?

 

Is there any accounting and recipets? If so, where are they?

[thaibeachlovers]

14 hours ago, rough diamond said:

Why don't you just stick to posting your normal hyperbole rubbish and stay out of serious subjects.

Hardly a serious discussion with all the insults flying about. I'd say Gamma is entirely at home on it.

[sharot724]

Russia has always decieved

[transam]

13 hours ago, Pique Dard said:

Why don't you tell us how long you want this war to go on, and how many dead, wounded, widows, widowers, and orphans it will take before you are satisfied, and peace returns?

Ask Putin about that, after all, he is the instigator, trying to rob land..............

[RuamRudy]

14 hours ago, Pique Dard said:

Why don't you tell us how long you want this war to go on, and how many dead, wounded, widows, widowers, and orphans it will take before you are satisfied, and peace returns?

 

I think most people recognise that Putin is the aggressor here, as he has been in so many assaults on freedom and democracy around the world for decades. It is not a case of 2 neighbours having a spat about a fence; there is a lot more at stake, and the notion that he could walk away from his brutal assault on a sovereign nation still holding a large part of it and dictating the terms for peace that would hobble that country and make it essentially his vassal state for years to come is beyond the pale. Putin must never be rehabilitated into international standing, and Russia must pay massively for their crimes. Trump wants to punish the abused and protect the abuser. That is what sticks in my craw.

[johng]

14 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Why doesn't Russia just leave then instead? 

 Because they won the war  and the spoils of war go to the victor.

[billd766]

On 3/7/2025 at 2:08 PM, thaibeachlovers said:

As are yours.

Try looking at the other posters responses at the bottom of your posts and mine, and try to spot the difference.

[thaibeachlovers]

5 hours ago, billd766 said:

Try looking at the other posters responses at the bottom of your posts and mine, and try to spot the difference.

Seriously, LOL. If you want to go that road I've got over 70,000 likes. How are you doing?

Have a nice day.

[thaibeachlovers]

On 3/8/2025 at 9:33 PM, RuamRudy said:

 

I think most people recognise that Putin is the aggressor here, as he has been in so many assaults on freedom and democracy around the world for decades. It is not a case of 2 neighbours having a spat about a fence; there is a lot more at stake, and the notion that he could walk away from his brutal assault on a sovereign nation still holding a large part of it and dictating the terms for peace that would hobble that country and make it essentially his vassal state for years to come is beyond the pale. Putin must never be rehabilitated into international standing, and Russia must pay massively for their crimes. Trump wants to punish the abused and protect the abuser. That is what sticks in my craw.

You didn't say how many more dead people you want in pursuit of your opinion that Putin is a bad man and needs to be spanked.

 

Regardless, Putin will walk away with all the land he holds at end of conflict- that's usually how it works for the winner. Ukraine will be crippled for years having to repay the debt to the EU and probably the US, though the US may be happy with the minerals instead. Get used to your craw being stuck- there is more to come, oh yes, much more.

[billd766]

3 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Seriously, LOL. If you want to go that road I've got over 70,000 likes. How are you doing?

Have a nice day.

And it took you only 68.7k  posts and 16 years to get there.

[thaibeachlovers]

Just now, billd766 said:

And it took you only 68.7k  posts and 16 years to get there.

Is that your idea of a cutting response? Seriously?

[thaibeachlovers]

On 3/7/2025 at 10:20 PM, ExpatOilWorker said:

Did tRUmp tell a truth?

I totally missed that, when did that happen?

 

Apparently you missed spelling when you were in school too.

 

Are you going to post anything on topic, or just make silly comments?

[thaibeachlovers]

On 3/7/2025 at 8:59 PM, nauseus said:

 

Well, I didn't say that either.

Perhaps not but Biden was/ is a war monger.

[transam]

12 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Seriously, LOL. If you want to go that road I've got over 70,000 likes. How are you doing?

Have a nice day.

The Weirdo's do need somewhere to go, chap..........😉

[RuamRudy]

41 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

You didn't say how many more dead people you want in pursuit of your opinion that Putin is a bad man and needs to be spanked.

 

Regardless, Putin will walk away with all the land he holds at end of conflict- that's usually how it works for the winner. Ukraine will be crippled for years having to repay the debt to the EU and probably the US, though the US may be happy with the minerals instead. Get used to your craw being stuck- there is more to come, oh yes, much more.

 

I belived putin was a bad man before a single shot was fired in Ukraine. You, on the other hand, I don't recall you ever criticising him. 

 

As for the future, my faith in politicians tells me that garbage like putin, his cronies and their hideous spawn will still thrive on the misery of millions, and that my desire for true justice will be unfulfilled. I will, of course, pray that, one by one, they are removed from humanity but I am not expecting too much there - the world has too many corrupt supplicants for real justice to exist. 

 

As for you? I don't really care where your sentiments truly lie because what I have seen to date I find truly repulsive, so no need to fill me in. 

[transam]

1 minute ago, RuamRudy said:

 

I belived putin was a bad man before a single shot was fired in Ukraine. You, on the other hand, I don't recall you ever criticising him. 

 

As for the future, my faith in politicians tells me that garbage like putin, his cronies and their hideous spawn will still thrive on the misery of millions, and that my desire for true justice will be unfulfilled. I will, of course, pray that, one by one, they are removed from humanity but I am not expecting too much there - the world has too many corrupt supplicants for real justice to exist. 

 

As for you? I don't really care where your sentiments truly lie because what I have seen to date I find truly repulsive, so no need to fill me in. 

Well said, R.R..........

[thaibeachlovers]

12 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

 

I belived putin was a bad man before a single shot was fired in Ukraine. You, on the other hand, I don't recall you ever criticising him. 

 

As for the future, my faith in politicians tells me that garbage like putin, his cronies and their hideous spawn will still thrive on the misery of millions, and that my desire for true justice will be unfulfilled. I will, of course, pray that, one by one, they are removed from humanity but I am not expecting too much there - the world has too many corrupt supplicants for real justice to exist. 

 

As for you? I don't really care where your sentiments truly lie because what I have seen to date I find truly repulsive, so no need to fill me in. 

You still won't say how many more dead people you find acceptable.

 

I don't care about Putin, Russia or Ukraine. None of them affect me personally. There are enough problems where I live to care about without worrying about Ukraine. I just dislike war, and support Trump stopping the farcical proxy war.

[thaibeachlovers]

16 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

As for you? I don't really care where your sentiments truly lie because what I have seen to date I find truly repulsive, so no need to fill me in. 

and yet you won't put me on ignore. Can only be because you want to read my comments that you find so repulsive. Are you related to Mary Whitehouse?

[transam]

Just now, thaibeachlovers said:

and yet you won't put me on ignore. Can only be because you want to read my comments that you find so repulsive. Are you related to Mary Whitehouse?

I have none on ignore, reading odd posts is all part of a forum, so I wouldn't feel honoured if I were you...........

[rough diamond]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Seriously, LOL. If you want to go that road I've got over 70,000 likes. How are you doing?

Have a nice day.

 

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Are you going to post anything on topic, or just make silly comments?

Do you mean just like the (n)on topic response you made to me. (see above)

[black tabby12345]

On 3/6/2025 at 1:57 PM, jippytum said:

Ukrain has been sold out by Trump. Wonder what the Russian's have on Trump for him to support Putin over European allies. 

 

Trump, the first ever President of the Unites States, openly serving Rus interests.

 

The most prominent Foreign Agent Ever Known, in US history while posing a Nationalist. 

 

Enemy Within, sent to the Highest Office of America.

 

Now being the 2nd in command, of the 21st Century Hitler without moustache.

 

 

 

[Jingthing]

31 minutes ago, black tabby12345 said:

 

Trump, the first ever President of the Unites States, openly serving Rus interests.

 

The most prominent Foreign Agent Ever Known, in US history while posing a Nationalist. 

 

Enemy Within, sent to the Highest Office of America.

 

Now being the 2nd in command, of the 21st Century Hitler without moustache.

 

 

 

Remember -- just when you think Trump has gone as low as imaginable, he then goes even lower

There really is no limit.

 

 

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