Popular Post Social Media Posted Thursday at 09:44 PM Popular Post Posted Thursday at 09:44 PM Russian President Vladimir Putin would break any peace agreement with Ukraine if it lacked strong security guarantees, UK Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer has warned following a high-level military meeting in London. He stressed that any ceasefire deal would only be sustainable if backed by solid security arrangements to deter Russian aggression. Speaking at the Permanent Joint Headquarters in Northwood, London, where over 20 countries convened for a confidential discussion on military support for Ukraine, Sir Keir underscored the necessity of military preparedness. He emphasized that the international community must move from "political momentum" to "military planning," stating, "It is vitally important we do that work because we know one thing for certain, which is a deal without anything behind it is something that Putin will breach. We know that because it happened before. I'm absolutely clear in my mind it will happen again." The UK prime minister made it clear that while support for Ukraine is crucial, British troops currently stationed in other countries, such as Estonia, would not be withdrawn to aid Kyiv. "There's no pulling back from our commitments to other countries," he affirmed. UK Defence Secretary John Healey was also present at the closed-door session, which involved military leaders from what Sir Keir has termed the "coalition of the willing." Downing Street indicated that these officials were engaged in "granular planning" regarding potential troop deployments, though the precise details remain under discussion. The UK initiated the meeting following a summit attended by 26 nations earlier this month. Military and diplomatic sources have suggested that any proposed troop presence should be framed as a "reassurance force" rather than a "peacekeeping force." Meanwhile, Armed Forces Minister Luke Pollard clarified that discussions were still in the early stages, stating, "We're not yet talking about numbers because we're still designing the shape of the force." He provided an example, explaining, "If one nation offers fast jet combat air, like a Typhoon aircraft for instance, how will the other nations work alongside it? Where will it refuel? How will it operate with other nations' capabilities?" His remarks underscored the complexity of coordinating multinational military efforts. Earlier in the day, Sir Keir visited the Port of Barrow in Cumbria, the site where the UK's nuclear submarines are built. He told reporters that the discussions in London focused on ensuring Ukraine's security across land, sea, and air. "We are looking at how to keep the skies, and the seas, and the borders safe in Ukraine," he said. As these talks unfold, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has urged Russia to cease its "unnecessary demands that only prolong the war." Speaking in Norway, he reinforced Ukraine's commitment to a peaceful resolution but stressed that Russia's stance remains a major obstacle. Additionally, he announced that Ukrainian officials would meet with their US counterparts in Saudi Arabia on Monday, coinciding with confirmed US-Russia discussions scheduled for the same day. These developments occur as the US continues efforts to negotiate a ceasefire between Russia and Ukraine after more than three years of conflict. Both Zelensky and Putin have agreed to a truce in principle during talks with US representatives, but disagreements over key conditions have so far prevented a formal agreement from taking shape. Based on a report by BBC 2025-03-21 1 2
Jeff the Chef Posted Thursday at 10:12 PM Posted Thursday at 10:12 PM At the end of the day all these Leaders on both sides will have to put boots on the ground, my feeling is neither sides youth have the stomach for it, they are not the uneducated peasants of the last 2 WW's, they are educated netizens of the 21st century and will not answer the call of these warmongering old fools. Anybody who considers this a good idea should think on, it will ultimately end up with the end of humanity as we know it, atomic weapons of today are hand grenades compared to the 2 dropped on Japan last century.
Popular Post flyingtlger Posted Thursday at 10:44 PM Popular Post Posted Thursday at 10:44 PM 54 minutes ago, Social Media said: Vladimir Putin would break any peace agreement with Ukraine if it lacked strong security guarantees Putin would break a peace agreement REGARDLESS if a security guarantee was in place. You can't trust him as far as you can throw him...... 1 2
thaibeachlovers Posted yesterday at 12:39 AM Posted yesterday at 12:39 AM On 3/21/2025 at 10:44 AM, Social Media said: The UK prime minister made it clear that while support for Ukraine is crucial, British troops currently stationed in other countries, such as Estonia, would not be withdrawn to aid Kyiv. "There's no pulling back from our commitments to other countries," he affirmed. Sooooo, there needs to be a strong deterrent force, but Britain won't be in it. An inconsequential man opens his mouth and words of no consequence come out. 1 1 1 1
thaibeachlovers Posted yesterday at 12:41 AM Posted yesterday at 12:41 AM On 3/21/2025 at 11:44 AM, flyingtlger said: Putin would break a peace agreement REGARDLESS if a security guarantee was in place. You can't trust him as far as you can throw him...... Ask the Cossacks if Britain can be trusted, . 3 1
thaibeachlovers Posted yesterday at 12:43 AM Posted yesterday at 12:43 AM On 3/21/2025 at 11:12 AM, Jeff the Chef said: atomic weapons of today are hand grenades compared to the 2 dropped on Japan last century. Shouldn't that be the other way around? 1
thaibeachlovers Posted yesterday at 12:50 AM Posted yesterday at 12:50 AM On 3/21/2025 at 10:44 AM, Social Media said: Military and diplomatic sources have suggested that any proposed troop presence should be framed as a "reassurance force" rather than a "peacekeeping force." LOL. 1
thaibeachlovers Posted yesterday at 12:51 AM Posted yesterday at 12:51 AM On 3/21/2025 at 10:44 AM, Social Media said: "If one nation offers fast jet combat air, like a Typhoon aircraft for instance, how will the other nations work alongside it? Where will it refuel? How will it operate with other nations' capabilities?" His remarks underscored the complexity of coordinating multinational military efforts. Sooooo, what has NATO been doing all this time, if basic questions like that are being asked now? 1 1
sharot724 Posted yesterday at 12:53 AM Posted yesterday at 12:53 AM Just like Yada says Putin is a thug 1 1
Jeff the Chef Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 9 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: Shouldn't that be the other way around? Yes, but you get my drift?
bkk6060 Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago With their talk, the UK should send in their soldiers. But who? They use to have a well respected military now service members are at all time lows less then 200,000 the lowest since Napoleon. Big talk, but minimal commitment from citizens. What an embarrassing joke.
Popular Post JonnyF Posted 15 hours ago Popular Post Posted 15 hours ago I would trust Putin more than I trust Starmer. Putin lies to foreigners to protect Russia. Starmer lies to the British to protect foreign interests. An evil man. An enemy of Britain. 1 1 1 1 2
Popular Post frank83628 Posted 14 hours ago Popular Post Posted 14 hours ago Stamer is a <deleted> that only got in with 34% of the vote, he should not be taken seriously 1 1 1 1 2
Popular Post Cameroni Posted 14 hours ago Popular Post Posted 14 hours ago Putin is more trustworthy than Starmer, Johnson and the entire lower house put together. It is not for nothing they call it perfidious Albion. 1 2 1 1 1
RayC Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 30 minutes ago, JonnyF said: I would trust Putin more than I trust Starmer. Putin lies to foreigners to protect Russia. Starmer lies to the British to protect foreign interests. An evil man. An enemy of Britain. Pure hyperbolic nonsense. Where has Starmer lied to protect foreign interests? What actions has he taken that could be considered evil? How is he an enemy of Britain? (I'll preempt your response about the withdrawal of the winter fuel allowance killing thousands of pensioners (it hasn't). Some individuals have, no doubt, suffered hardship but by that criterion you could cite certain actions taken by any government and classify them as evil). 1
RayC Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 44 minutes ago, frank83628 said: Stamer is a <deleted> that only got in with 34% of the vote, he should not be taken seriously It's hardly Starmer's fault that he became PM as a result of an undemocratic electoral system. The UK's PM might not be a major player on the international scene, but domestically it's the top position so I'd say that Starmer needs to be taken seriously (in the UK at least). 1
Popular Post WorriedNoodle Posted 14 hours ago Popular Post Posted 14 hours ago 55 minutes ago, JonnyF said: I would trust Putin more than I trust Starmer. Putin lies to foreigners to protect Russia. Why would anyone say something so obscenely dumb on a public forum? Is that all you think Putin does? 1 1 2
Popular Post WorriedNoodle Posted 14 hours ago Popular Post Posted 14 hours ago 17 minutes ago, Cameroni said: Putin is more trustworthy than Starmer, Johnson and the entire lower house put together. So Starmer, Johnson and the and the entire lower house put together are worse than someone who: 1. Commits war crime of unlawful deportation and transfer of children from occupied areas of Ukraine to Russia. 2. Commits Indiscriminate Attacks on Civilians and Infrastructure 3. Kills and Executes his opponents. blah blah blah.... the list goes on but is wasted on numbskulls. 1 1 2
Cameroni Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 47 minutes ago, WorriedNoodle said: So Starmer, Johnson and the and the entire lower house put together are worse than someone who: 1. Commits war crime of unlawful deportation and transfer of children from occupied areas of Ukraine to Russia. 2. Commits Indiscriminate Attacks on Civilians and Infrastructure 3. Kills and Executes his opponents. blah blah blah.... the list goes on but is wasted on numbskulls. Putin did not do 1 or 2. Okay, he killed some opponents, but so did Obama, Bush, Thatcher and pretty much every leader. 3 1 1
Jeff the Chef Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 1 hour ago, Cameroni said: Putin did not do 1 or 2. Okay, he killed some opponents, but so did Obama, Bush, Thatcher and pretty much every leader. Just because you can write this on here does not make it true unless you have some evidence, I won't hold my breath. 1 2 1
thaibeachlovers Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 14 hours ago, Jeff the Chef said: Yes, but you get my drift? I knew what you meant to say. 1
thaibeachlovers Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 13 hours ago, bkk6060 said: With their talk, the UK should send in their soldiers. But who? They use to have a well respected military now service members are at all time lows less then 200,000 the lowest since Napoleon. Big talk, but minimal commitment from citizens. What an embarrassing joke. Why join the military and suffer abuse and poor conditions when one can go on the dole? I lasted over a decade, but in the end the abuse got to me and I resigned. Never regretted it, as I was starting to hate being in it. Got taken over by a bunch of losers and bullies. 1
thaibeachlovers Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 8 hours ago, WorriedNoodle said: So Starmer, Johnson and the and the entire lower house put together are worse than someone who: 1. Commits war crime of unlawful deportation and transfer of children from occupied areas of Ukraine to Russia. 2. Commits Indiscriminate Attacks on Civilians and Infrastructure 3. Kills and Executes his opponents. blah blah blah.... the list goes on but is wasted on numbskulls. Deflection. He said nothing about being better than the British shower, and IMO Starmer et al are no better than Putin by encouraging other people to die, instead of having the balls to send British troops. None of that list addresses his trustworthiness- does he do what he says he is going to do, or is he just a lying <deleted> like Starmer? 1 1
Hamus Yaigh Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 10 hours ago, JonnyF said: I would trust Putin more than I trust Starmer. Where do you sit on the Pope vs Hitler? 1
Hamus Yaigh Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 53 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: None of that list addresses his trustworthiness- does he do what he says he is going to do, or is he just a lying <deleted> like Starmer? As a beach-lover, you've been out in the sun too long if you think a wanted war crim is trustworthy. 1 1
thaibeachlovers Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Hamus Yaigh said: As a beach-lover, you've been out in the sun too long if you think a wanted war crim is trustworthy. Congratulations on a post that completely avoids what I said to make a silly remark about sunstroke. 1 1
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