Trump’s Order Mandating Proof of Citizenship for Voter Registration Sparks Legal Concerns

[dinsdale]

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I have, and that was at the time of the election, before Trump started his policies attacking farmers, attacking veterans, attacking social security, attacking Medicaid and now with more tariffs attacking all business and all consumers.

 

 

 

Yet approval rating is still 20 points ahead of the Democrats with the Dems approval rating being at an all time low. BTW the illegals pouring across the border and were able to vote with zero ID in CA has been brought to an almost complete halt. 

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Yet approval rating is still 20 points ahead of the Democrats with the Dems approval rating being at an all time low. BTW the illegals pouring across the border and were able to vote with zero ID in CA has been brought to an almost complete halt. 

Did you miss the Pennsylvania Special Election result?

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/26/us/politics/special-election-pennsylvania-state-senate-trump-malone-parsons.html

 

Edit, please provide credible link to your claim of ‘illegals voting’.

[hotsun]

9 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I have, and that was at the time of the election, before Trump started his policies attacking farmers, attacking veterans, attacking social security, attacking Medicaid and now with more tariffs attacking all business and all consumers.

 

 

 

No idea what youre talking about. The blue areas of the country are the rich out of touch americans who are clinging onto the past

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, hotsun said:

No idea what youre talking about. The blue areas of the country are the rich out of touch americans who are clinging onto the past

Don’t worry, Americans are getting the message.

 

Inflation is up, the stock market is down, along with consumer confidence.

 

Veteran services are being gutted, likewise Medicaid and the attack on SS has started.

 

 

[nauseus]

45 minutes ago, Skunkfarben said:

 

Not birth certificate. National I'd or passport can be ok. Why anybody confusing with this

 

Not anybody - just Tug.

[hotsun]

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Don’t worry, Americans are getting the message.

 

Inflation is up, the stock market is down, along with consumer confidence.

 

Veteran services are being gutted, likewise Medicaid and the attack on SS has started.

 

 

The amount of alarm you have for america and not the UK is what i dont understand

[Skunkfarben]

4 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

Not anybody - just Tug.

 

Germany have Wahlbenachrichtigung. Voter I'd. Suisse very control using Stimmrechtsausweis working same same

[dinsdale]

11 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Did you miss the Pennsylvania Special Election result?

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/26/us/politics/special-election-pennsylvania-state-senate-trump-malone-parsons.html

 

Edit, please provide credible link to your claim of ‘illegals voting’.

Did I say I had evidence of illegals voting? No. Don't be ridiculous. I said in CA ID wasn't required to cast a vote. This of course opens the way for illegals to vote. 

https://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/voter-bill-rights

• If you are a newly registered voter, you may be asked to provide appropriate identification or other documentation according to federal law. But please note that every individual has the right to cast a provisional ballot even if he or she does not provide the documentation.

[frank83628]

1 hour ago, Tug said:

So now everyone has to present their birth certificate to vote?as usual it’s a ditcate not a law with little if any thought behind it.call it for what it is an attempt to disenfranchise the poor,just how many illegal voters did they find in 2020?

Poor and people of colour by any chance

 

[Chomper Higgot]

9 minutes ago, hotsun said:

The amount of alarm you have for america and not the UK is what i dont understand

I’m sure there’s lots of things you don’t understand.

 

Which is, I suspect, why so often wonder

 off topic.

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Poor and people of colour by any chance

 

There’s no chance about it.

[frank83628]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Let me correct you.

 

US Citizens, rich or poor may vote.

 

Any barrier placed in the way of them doing so impacts the probability that come election day they can vote.

 

Those barriers disproportionately effect the poor and ethnic minorities.

 

Let’s not pretend you do not understand that.

No, that is democrat & democrat media spinning lies. Total nonsense. The only reason to not want ID to vote is to cheat.

[Chomper Higgot]

4 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

No, that is democrat & democrat media spinning lies. Total nonsense. The MLF reason to not want ID to vote is to cheat.

And yet the data on voter ID suppressing eligible votes is solid.

 

https://www.brennancenter.org/issues/ensure-every-american-can-vote/voter-suppression

 

 

[frank83628]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Can you please provide a credible source for your claim

 

“Millions of votes appearing out of nowhere like in 2020. ”

Gavin newsom made it illegal in California to ask for IDat polling stations... so how can you verify that non citizens voted

[frank83628]

1 hour ago, HappyExpat57 said:

Again, thinking has become such a lost art.

 

There is not ONE single illegal alien in the US who would risk arrest/deportation to a Salvadoran prison camp to cast a vote for any Democrat. This move targets poor and/or elderly Democratic  voters.

 

And the funniest part is the Republicans should let this go - the Democrats are already doing a GREAT job shooting themselves in their own feet.

No, probably not now as they Know Trump means business,  but previously it was open season. 

[cjinchiangrai]

1 hour ago, Tug said:

So now everyone has to present their birth certificate to vote?as usual it’s a ditcate not a law with little if any thought behind it.call it for what it is an attempt to disenfranchise the poor,just how many illegal voters did they find in 2020?

It is an attempt to disenfranchise people who change their name since birth, like married women. 

[JonnyF]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I have, and that was at the time of the election, before Trump started his policies attacking farmers, attacking veterans, attacking social security, attacking Medicaid and now with more tariffs attacking all business and all consumers.

 

 

 

 

You mean all those nasty tariffs bringing huge investment into the US?

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgkmvdz144vo

 

[rough diamond]

1 hour ago, Tug said:

So now everyone has to present their birth certificate to vote?as usual it’s a ditcate not a law with little if any thought behind it.call it for what it is an attempt to disenfranchise the poor,just how many illegal voters did they find in 2020?

A birth certificate is NOT an accepted form of ID under the new order, neither are driving licences as not all include citizenship status.

[blaze master]

1 hour ago, Tug said:

So now everyone has to present their birth certificate to vote?as usual it’s a ditcate not a law with little if any thought behind it.call it for what it is an attempt to disenfranchise the poor,just how many illegal voters did they find in 2020?

 

A few weeks ago I presented my passport to authorities to vote. Not much different. 

[JonnyF]

The GOP will win by an even bigger margin next time without all these illegal Dem voters.

 

The Dems are done. 

 

Go Woke, Go up in smoke (unburdened by what has been). 

 

[Callmeishmael]

How exactly are they going to prove citizenship?  Non-Citizens can have US driver's licenses and Social Security cards and the US has consistently voted against having a national ID card.  Will people have to bring their Passports or Birth Certificates to the voting stations?

[BritManToo]

2 hours ago, Tug said:

So now everyone has to present their birth certificate to vote?as usual it’s a ditcate not a law with little if any thought behind it.call it for what it is an attempt to disenfranchise the poor,just how many illegal voters did they find in 2020?

I'm thinking around 15 million, because they never voted before or after that election.

[CallumWK]

31 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

It is an attempt to disenfranchise people who change their name since birth, like married women. 

 

Is their ID card taken away when they marry?

[CallumWK]

3 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I'm thinking around 15 million, because they never voted before or after that election.

 

Not a Trump fanboy here, but I think the 15 million votes mainly were votes cast by post, because it was Covid period.

Never before or after the 2020 election was there a Covid pandemic.

 

[cjinchiangrai]

35 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

 

Is their ID card taken away when they marry?

No, but their name changes. They may or ay not have name change filings. They are not automatic with weddings but maybe should be. The only "National ID" is a passport and something like 40% of the population do not have one.

[CallumWK]

7 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

No, but their name changes. They may or ay not have name change filings. They are not automatic with weddings but maybe should be. The only "National ID" is a passport and something like 40% of the population do not have one.

 

They sure have some form of identification that is accepted.

 

Common Forms of ID:

While there's no national ID, Americans commonly use state-issued driver's licenses or state-issued ID cards as proof of identity. U.S. passports can also serve as identification

 

 

And then there is THIS:

 

REAL ID:

Beginning May 7, 2025, every state and territory resident will need a REAL ID compliant license/ID, or another acceptable form of identification, for accessing federal facilities, entering nuclear power plants, and boarding commercial aircraft.

 

[seajae]

lets ne realistic here, the only reason democrats dont want this is because they know they will lose a lot of their votes, showing you are a citizen of that country to vote is basic, we had to do it in Australia so why cant they do it in the US. Its a real laugh when you look at the total BS reasons dems come up with, if you are born in the US you will have access to a  birth certificate(even if its not acceptable as proof), you will have access to a passport, you will have access to a social security number, there are several ways to show you are a US citizen. There is nothing untoward about it, the only reason dems are upset is because they know many of their voters are not US citizens or are dead people, if other western world countries need to do it then you really have to wonder why the dems are bitching so loud in the US, shows they do not want the truth coming out about their support base, shows they are totally pathetic

[frank83628]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

There’s no chance about it.

So youre saying the pwoplw that don't have ID are black & brown people and they are Americas poor

[cjinchiangrai]

15 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

 

They sure have some form of identification that is accepted.

 

Common Forms of ID:

While there's no national ID, Americans commonly use state-issued driver's licenses or state-issued ID cards as proof of identity. U.S. passports can also serve as identification

 

 

And then there is THIS:

 

REAL ID:

Beginning May 7, 2025, every state and territory resident will need a REAL ID compliant license/ID, or another acceptable form of identification, for accessing federal facilities, entering nuclear power plants, and boarding commercial aircraft.

 

True, but they do not always tie back to the birth certificate and it costs money to clarify the documents.

[CallumWK]

1 minute ago, cjinchiangrai said:

True, but they do not always tie back to the birth certificate and it costs money to clarify the documents.

 

Any ID obtained before married will be tied to birth certificate, otherwise how would they be able to obtain that ID?

You are making up things much