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Trump’s Tariff Strategy: US can no longer act as the world's economic shock absorber


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6 hours ago, ChicagoExpat said:

Yes, he's a scam artist.  But why should any country put up with their goods being taxed while they have allowed the other country's exports, tax-free, for decades?

About 5% of exports to the EU were subject to special tariffs. Around the same percentage of exports from the EU was taxed by the US....:coffee1:

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6 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Trump is just doing what the rest of the world has done for decades.

 

The EU for example is probably the most protectionist bloc in history. But nobody complains about that. In fact, they celebrated it when Britain left the EU. Remainers rejoiced in how the EU was going to now tax all our exports to them. 

 

Thailand also puts massive tariffs on imports, often under the label of a "luxury tax". Anyone who likes to eat their favourite food brands from "back home" will be aware of that when they pay 2-3 times the price at the checkout. Try buying a Ford Mustang or a Harley in Bangkok.  

 

Even ordering simple things like motorcycle helmets from abroad I've been stung by huge import taxes here. 

 

But when Trump does it, everyone loses their marbles. 😄 

He lost his marbles: 'Clueless' Trump makes frightening confession on how long US manufacturing will take

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1 hour ago, newbee2022 said:

And there is really someone out there who believes in Trump's economic wisdom??😂😂😂

I don't care if he has wisdom or not. I just want an end to a world economic scam in which the 1% reap profit while the peasants suffer. Burn it all down and start over with a system that benefits everyone, not just the 1%. If Trump is the cause, so be it.

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8 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I don't care if he has wisdom or not. I just want an end to a world economic scam in which the 1% reap profit while the peasants suffer. Burn it all down and start over with a system that benefits everyone, not just the 1%. If Trump is the cause, so be it.

Who wouldn't agree? 

However, I can't see the reset button yet. 

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31 minutes ago, BritScot said:

The haters on here really are close to crazy. You all should sit back and digest the bile use all spout. This forum must be so full of billionaires with such business and success portfolios! So, use all support corruption and theft of trillions of tax payers money, tax payer's money being used to pay for terrorists and agitators, countries theft of manufacturing with crazy tariff structures. Trump was quite in his right to reciprocally tax them but he could easily have doubled the tax. Use do realise that he is only hit them with 50% of the tax they hit they issue against American goods? I think he should of hit them with equal tariffs especially China!

Sadly you are 100% correct!

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4 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Good advice, but the numpties in charge around the world only have revenge as an option. Such losers. So stupid they think Trump cares about their retaliatory tariffs. The plan is to return US companies ( and any others that want to sell in the US ) to the US mainland. Can't make an omelette without breaking eggs. 

Well, but Trump missed a main point.

In his wisdom he forgot, what eg EU buys from US as service by Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, Meta, Netflix, X, Starlink, Google, aso.

This is not mentioned in his "calculation".

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I understand that Trump aimed to change trade policies and raise tariffs, but there were more diplomatic approaches he could have taken, such as organizing meetings with trade ministers or communicating through U.S. trade missions and embassies. His accusations against other countries for using unfair trade practices and "ripping off" the U.S. for years seem excessive. In trade, buyers and sellers negotiate prices and quality, and once both parties reach a satisfactory agreement, the transaction proceeds—that’s the nature of business. Additionally, it’s difficult to intimidate a powerful country with significant bargaining power. Resorting to bullying tactics and using inappropriate language against allies to appeal to his base is not a mature way to conduct diplomacy.

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What's wrong with equal taxes or tariffs as we call them? How can any country sell a car or anything to the USA with a 5% tariff and the USA sells them a car or anything made in the USA and they charge 30%? This simply does not make sense to me. I don't care who is president. Fair is fair. Get used to it. I know how easy it is to send any goods from my company made here to the USA  with very little tarriff but when we try to send the same thing back here, its an absolute nightmare. 

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13 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

Well, but Trump missed a main point.

In his wisdom he forgot, what eg EU buys from US as service by Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, Meta, Netflix, X, Starlink, Google, aso.

This is not mentioned in his "calculation".

The sheeple are so mind controlled by such as Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, Meta, Netflix, X, Starlink, Google that I doubt he has to worry about them. They ain't going to give up their social media fix for anything, and will still keep buying overpriced tat from Apple.

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I wondering if Trump know that US has a trade surplus in the service industry. Service industry growth outpaced real GDP growth. Over 1 trillion USD in services are exported. The service sector has been declining with Trump's trade policy uncertainties and now the tariffs will be a hammerblow as recessionary and global growth fears weigh on the sector. Trump is reckless and don't grasp the totality of his tariff war which will drive down the world economy. He is surrounded by sycophants and cowards who are gutless to speak out.  

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An interesting analysis. Not completely wrong. But it fails to hit the truly relevant point. The US is completely rejecting globalism, and forging an economy where you either work to better your own country, or you work to subjugate it.

 

Economists like to point out that free trade makes everyone better...on average. It's the on average part that is the problem. Because as Trump has told us, 50 years of data clearly show the vast, vast majority of Americans are worse off. Free trade works by pulling wealthy countries down to the same level as impoverished ones, while making a few who control the global supply lines very, very wealthy. In the process, those countries who were desperately poor might experience a slight increase in their standard of living, but again that came at the expense of the US which experienced a much more significant decrease.

 

What Trump is truly doing is simple. He's ending globalism. Because the US is not responsible to support the standard of living in countries like Vietnam or Thailand. The goal of the US, and for every country, is to increase and protect their own standard of living. The very opposite of globalism, sovereigntism accepts that some countries will be worse off, but the wealth that is in the US, stays in the US. Even if that is less efficient on a global basis, it leaves the USA in a substantially better position.

 

And that is the real war. The globalists want a one world government where everyone is the same. No borders. The US wants sovereignty and competitive nationalism, where everyone is responsible for themselves, with lots of diversity and competition. If the EU wants to continue to push globalism, they will henceforth have to do it without the USA.  The US will work to become entirely self sufficient, with resilient domestic supply chains and trade existing on the margins. Countries that want to trade with the US can continue to do so, but there will be no trade war, because the US is quitting the game.

 

Globalism and global supply chains are dead. You don't make your country dependent on goods and services from your enemy, and right now, the strongest supporter of globalism, the EU, is the enemy.

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