Gaza Paramedics Shot ‘With Intent to Kill,’ Red Crescent Demands International Probe

[Bkk Brian]

8 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

We know the IDF did lie, we know war is dirty, we have the video footage recovered from the phone of the body of a paramedic gunned down by the IDF and dumped in a shallow grave.

 

The Ted Crescent’s calls for an international investigation are entirely reasonable. 
 

 

War is even dirtier when one side uses ambulances to transport their terrorists around, and transport the innocent hostages they kidnapped. War is also dirtier when they also use hospital facilities to have their compounds and control centers. War is very dirty when one side deliberately uses Gazans as human sacrifice and the leaders are happy to state this publicly to then utilize the civilian casualties in their propaganda. 

[Chomper Higgot]

37 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   The IDF can easily claim that due to numerous previous instances of Hamas dressing up as medics and using ambulances for transport , the IDF had suspicions that these palestinians dressed up as medics in ambulances could well be Hamas .

   The IDF can say that they were targeting people whom  they thought to have been the Hamas enemy and they weren't deliberately targeting medics .

   Reasonable grounds to have suspicions that they were Hamas 

Liars can easily claim stuff, it’s a characteristic of being a liar.

 

These reasonable grounds you claim, would not require lies to be told.

 

And yet lies were told by the killers.

 

[Bkk Brian]

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Liars can easily claim stuff, it’s a characteristic of being a liar.

 

These reasonable grounds you claim, would not require lies to be told.

 

And yet lies were told by the killers.

 

The facts however are that Hamas have used ambulances and have also transported hostages in ambulances. The IDF also claim 6 Hamas were killed in this incident.

[Nick Carter icp]

25 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Liars can easily claim stuff, it’s a characteristic of being a liar.

 

These reasonable grounds you claim, would not require lies to be told.

 

And yet lies were told by the killers.

 

 

   Its be shown  numerous times that Hamas use ambulances to transport themselves and weapon .

   Looks like the IDF made a mistake and tried to cover it up 

[Jeff the Chef]

15 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Its be shown  numerous times that Hamas use ambulances to transport themselves and weapon .

   Looks like the IDF made a mistake and tried to cover it up 

 

Please show the numerous times that Hamas has used ambulances to transport themselves and weapons.

Are you saying the IDF made a mistake and lied about it, to cover up what, a war crime?

[Nick Carter icp]

5 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

Please show the numerous times that Hamas has used ambulances to transport themselves and weapons.

 

 

   No, if you are unaware of that fact, then you shouldn't be participating in the discussion .

   Maybe you should visit a beginners thread and join in there ?

[Jeff the Chef]

2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   No, if you are unaware of that fact, then you shouldn't be participating in the discussion .

   Maybe you should visit a beginners thread and join in there ?

 

So you claim something then when you are challenged about it resort to childish behaviour.

 

The Red Crescent society's president Dr Younes al-Khatib rejected the military's accusation that Hamas operatives were among those killed, saying it had failed "to prove even once in 50 years that the Red Crescent or its crew carry or use weapons".

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0r5zz0gd0no

 

 

[ronnie50]

4 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Do you believe that Jews should have their own Country on the land along with the Palestinians having their own Country ?

  Do you believe in a two state solution ?

Yes. End of discussion.

[Eloquent pilgrim]

On 4/8/2025 at 4:50 AM, billd766 said:

It was not a tragedy as such but a deliberate war crime, compounded by the constant lies and denials from the IDF and the Israeli government.

 

How anyone can accept and believe anything published from Israel is beyond me.

 

 

Says a confirmed Hamas apologist 

 

 

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

So you claim something then when you are challenged about it resort to childish behaviour.

 

The Red Crescent society's president Dr Younes al-Khatib rejected the military's accusation that Hamas operatives were among those killed, saying it had failed "to prove even once in 50 years that the Red Crescent or its crew carry or use weapons".

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0r5zz0gd0no

 

 

There's already links in this very topic. You need to read it

 

Here's another with evidence, plenty of others.

 

Hamas and the Other Terrorist Organizations in the Gaza Strip Use Medical Facilities and Ambulances for Military-Terrorist Purposes

https://www.terrorism-info.org.il/en/20683/

[Nick Carter icp]

4 hours ago, ronnie50 said:

And I'm not antisemitic at all. I am anti-zionist though - 

 

   Should Jews have their own land ?

 

5 minutes ago, ronnie50 said:

Yes. End of discussion.

 

   So you are a Zionist and also an Anti Zionist ?

You are a Zionist in the sense that you believe Jews should have a homeland .........................and you are also an Anti Zionist as well .

  So you are both a Zionist and a Anti Zionist  

[Eloquent pilgrim]

 

 

UN / Hamas — Palestinian UNRWA / Hamas —Palestinian Red Crescent / Hamas — all affiliated organisations.

 

 

[Eloquent pilgrim]

4 hours ago, ronnie50 said:

And I'm not antisemitic at all

 

Righto; not sure why you need to announce it though  ......... unless ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

 

[Jeff the Chef]

On 4/8/2025 at 10:25 AM, CharlieH said:

https://www.amnesty.org/en/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/GettyImages-2207177968.jpeg

 

Autopsies on 15 Palestinian paramedics and emergency responders killed by Israeli forces in Gaza reveal they were shot in the upper body with "intent to kill," according to the Palestinian Red Crescent. The organization is calling for an international investigation into what it describes as a deliberate attack on humanitarian workers.

 

The killings occurred on March 23 in Rafah, southern Gaza, during a renewed Israeli offensive. Video footage from one of the victims shows clearly marked ambulances with flashing lights and personnel wearing high-visibility vests moments before they came under fire. The footage contradicts Israel’s initial claim that the vehicles were “suspicious” and lacked proper identification.

 

International Outcry:
Germany, one of Israel’s closest allies in the EU, has called for an urgent investigation, with its foreign ministry stating that accountability is essential for maintaining the credibility of Israel’s constitutional state. The United Nations has also condemned the incident, describing it as a potential war crime after the bodies of the medics were discovered in a mass grave near the site of the attack.

 

Conflicting Accounts:
The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) initially denied targeting ambulances, claiming troops fired on vehicles believed to be carrying Hamas militants. However, following the release of video evidence, the IDF admitted its earlier account was “mistaken” but maintained that six of those killed had links to Hamas—a claim for which no evidence has been provided.

Lt. Gen. Eyal Zamir, Israel’s army chief, has ordered a deeper investigation into the incident after an initial review concluded that troops acted out of a “sense of threat.” The Red Crescent and other humanitarian organizations have refuted any connections between their personnel and armed groups, emphasizing that all those killed were unarmed civilians providing medical aid.

 

Demands for Justice:
Younis al-Khatib, president of the Red Crescent in the West Bank, stated that all 15 victims were deliberately targeted and called for an independent international commission to investigate. “Why did you hide the bodies?” he asked Israeli forces. “This is no longer about respecting international law—it is about enforcing accountability.”

 

A Pattern of Violence:
The attack is part of a broader trend of violence against medical workers in Gaza. In the past 18 months, hundreds of humanitarian staff have been killed by Israeli forces, including six members of World Central Kitchen and several UN employees. Human rights groups accuse Israel of fostering a culture of impunity, with few soldiers ever facing justice for such incidents.

 

Global Impact:
The killings have further strained international relations as calls for accountability grow louder. The incident underscores the ongoing challenges faced by humanitarian workers in conflict zones and raises questions about adherence to international law during military operations.

 

Based on various news sources.

08.04.2025

 

 

 Says it all for me.

[Eloquent pilgrim]

5 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 Says it all for me.

 

 

Indeed; I bet you lap up everything that is said “according to the Palestinian Red Crescent”

 

 

[Jeff the Chef]

3 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

 

Indeed; I bet you lap up everything that is said “according to the Palestinian Red Crescent”

 

 

 

Bit like you lapping up all the IDF, Israeli propaganda with no independent investigation or corroboration.

[Jeff the Chef]

8 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

 

Indeed; I bet you lap up everything that is said “according to the Palestinian Red Crescent”

 

 

 

The Red Crescent Demands International Probe, surely the Israeli should welcome an International Enquiry if as they claim they are innocent of all charges, after all it was only a "mistaken" report by them on what happened on the 23rd of March.

[Eloquent pilgrim]

8 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

Bit like you lapping up all the IDF, Israeli propaganda with no independent investigation or corroboration.

 

Jeff, do you know who controls every single action taken by the Palestinian Red Crescent, and every single press release and announcement they make ?

 

Here’s a little clue for you, it is a terrorist organisation that begins with an H and ends with the letter S   … fodder for the gullible and the incurious.

 

 

[Jeff the Chef]

21 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

Jeff, do you know who controls every single action taken by the Palestinian Red Crescent, and every single press release and announcement they make ?

 

Here’s a little clue for you, it is a terrorist organisation that begins with an H and ends with the letter S   … fodder for the gullible and the incurious.

 

 

 

Really?

 

The Palestine Red Crescent Society (PRCS) is an officially recognized independent Palestinian National Society. It enjoys legal personality and is part of the International Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement. The Society, which operates in Palestine and the diaspora, is guided by the Geneva Conventions and the Movement’s Fundamental Principles, i.e. Humanity, Impartiality, Neutrality, Independence, Voluntary Service, Unity and Universality.

https://www.palestinercs.org/en/Article/10997/Overview

[Eloquent pilgrim]

30 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

Really?

 

Really?

 

The Palestine Red Crescent Society (PRCS) is an officially recognized independent Palestinian National Society. It enjoys legal personality and is part of the International Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement. The Society, which operates in Palestine and the diaspora, is guided by the Geneva Conventions and the Movement’s Fundamental Principles, i.e. Humanity, Impartiality, Neutrality, Independence, Voluntary Service, Unity and Universality.

https://www.palestinercs.org/en/Article/10997/Overview

 

 

Jeff, do you remember reading about how independent and bona fide the UN affiliated aid agency UNRWA were; then the world discovered that some of their operatives actually took part in the most barbaric atrocity in modern history on 7 October 2023.

 

Then more recently it was revealed that UNRWA operatives have been holding some of the tortured and dying hostages on behalf of Hamas, in some of their facilities in Gaza (some aid agency eh)

 

That you (want to) believe the Palestinian Red Crescent can operate in Gaza and not be under the complete control of Hamas is no surprise really because you have form on defending, excusing, and deflecting criticism from Hamas.

 

Reply if you wish, but please, no more relentless copying and pasting from other articles; thanks

 

 

[Nick Carter icp]

41 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

The Red Crescent Demands International Probe, surely the Israeli should welcome an International Enquiry if as they claim they are innocent of all charges, after all it was only a "mistaken" report by them on what happened on the 23rd of March.

 

   Lets also have probbe about who is holding the hostages .

Find out who is involved and bring them to the ICJ on war crime charges .

Must be 100's of Palestinian war criminals hiding in Gaza

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A baiting post making light of the incident explanation has been removed @Jeff the Chef

[Jeff the Chef]

29 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Lets also have probbe about who is holding the hostages .

Find out who is involved and bring them to the ICJ on war crime charges .

Must be 100's of Palestinian war criminals hiding in Gaza

 

Why would anyone have a problem with an Independent enquiry on Hamas holding hostages, I certainly don't, and would welcome anyway to bring the hostage takers before the ICJ or the ICC.

[Chomper Higgot]

2 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Its be shown  numerous times that Hamas use ambulances to transport themselves and weapon .

   Looks like the IDF made a mistake and tried to cover it up 

Do you have an argument against an international investigation into this slaughter?

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

 

UN / Hamas — Palestinian UNRWA / Hamas —Palestinian Red Crescent / Hamas — all affiliated organisations.

 

 

Hogwash.

[Bkk Brian]

59 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

 

Jeff, do you remember reading about how independent and bona fide the UN affiliated aid agency UNRWA were; then the world discovered that some of their operatives actually took part in the most barbaric atrocity in modern history on 7 October 2023.

 

Then more recently it was revealed that UNRWA operatives have been holding some of the tortured and dying hostages on behalf of Hamas, in some of their facilities in Gaza (some aid agency eh)

 

That you (want to) believe the Palestinian Red Crescent can operate in Gaza and not be under the complete control of Hamas is no surprise really because you have form on defending, excusing, and deflecting criticism from Hamas.

 

Reply if you wish, but please, no more relentless copying and pasting from other articles; thanks

 

 

Indeed, ironically a UNRWA worker was one of those allegedly killed in the incident with the medics. But there is also that viral clip of one of the UNRWA operatives kidnapping a dead body to take as hostage back to Gaza, the hostages mum has even been to the UN to complain.

 

Now here's Hamas jumping in on the propaganda, sicko's

 

Hamas Slams White House Over Aid Worker Killings

Hamas condemned Hughes' words in a Monday press statement saying they were "nothing but lies, lacking any evidence."

It said they "represent a horrific example of unethical solidarity with the Nazis of our time."

 

"Hamas uses ambulances and more broadly human shields for terrorism. "President Trump understands the impossible situation this tactic creates for Israel and holds Hamas entirely responsible," Hughes said, according to Reuters.

https://www.newsweek.com/hamas-trump-gaza-nazis-israel-2056249

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

Jeff, do you know who controls every single action taken by the Palestinian Red Crescent, and every single press release and announcement they make ?

 

Here’s a little clue for you, it is a terrorist organisation that begins with an H and ends with the letter S   … fodder for the gullible and the incurious.

 

 

Where the lights of the ambulances in which the paramedics gunned down by the IDF were slaughtered illuminated or not?

 

Did the IDF lie about that or not?

 

Is the call by the Red Crescent for an international investigation into these killings reasonable or not?

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

15 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Where the lights of the ambulances in which the paramedics gunned down by the IDF were slaughtered illuminated or not?

 

Did the IDF lie about that or not?

 

Is the call by the Red Crescent for an international investigation into these killings reasonable or not?

 

 

What on earth has that to do with the post your responding to? Regards an investigation, some here have Israel guilty already before one has been carried out. 

[Jeff the Chef]

6 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

What on earth has that to do with the post your responding to? Regards an investigation, some here have Israel guilty already before one has been carried out. 

 

With good reason, don't you think?

[Kinok Farang]

On 4/8/2025 at 5:46 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

Provide it here and evidence that the claim is correct.

Say please.