White House Defends Abrego Garcia Deportation, Calling Return "Out of the Question"

[placnx]

35 minutes ago, thesetat said:

There also is no DUE process in evicting illegal immigrants. They are not put before any judge to stop their removal. So you are only spouting Dem B.S. 

The US Supreme Court has already ruled that there must be a hearing for each individual before these bizarre deportations.

[Yagoda]

4 hours ago, rudi49jr said:

The Supreme Court agrees with us, they ruled 9-0 in this case. So what you think is irrelevant.
Where’s your evidence, by the way, that he’s a wife beating, terrorist scumbag? Or are you just regurgitating MAGA talking points, as per usual? Because as far as I know, this man has a clean rap sheet. Unlike your dear leader.

You don't know how to read the order do you lol. You didn't see the key language did you lol. You're not familiar with article 2 are you lol. The wife swore that he beat her...Was she lying? 

 

 

[impulse]

7 hours ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

Constitutional crisis incoming!

 

The constitutional crisis is local federal judges trying to dictate national policy.  They're only allowed to rule on the specific issues brought on behalf of specific plaintiffs.  They're trying to write law, not rule on it.

 

[rough diamond]

31 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Was she lying? 

Maybe!

Can you prove she wasn't?

[Dan O]

2 hours ago, thesetat said:

There also is no DUE process in evicting illegal immigrants. They are not put before any judge to stop their removal. So you are only spouting Dem B.S. 

He already had a hearing in 2019 and the  judge ruled for him to not be deported to El Salvador, his home country so no its not Dem BS its facts and you need to check yourself as you are the one spouting  bs.

[Yagoda]

53 minutes ago, rough diamond said:

Maybe!

Can you prove she wasn't?

Well I guess thats how your lot views sworn statements. Ill summarize it for you:

 

"Testimony and sworn statements are only true if they support my ideology"

[rough diamond]

1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

Well I guess thats how your lot views sworn statements. Ill summarize it for you:

 

"Testimony and sworn statements are only true if they support my ideology"

Who is "my lot"? 

I am an individual with NO affiliation to any group party or "ism" unlike your MAGAmanical inbred bunch of Trump mouthpieces!

 

So answer the question!

Can you prove she wasn't? 

[Cryingdick]

The more the dems demand his return the less likely it becomes. His best bet would be if they would STFU and he could be quietly released in El Salvador later. Even if he comes back to the USA he won't see a single day of freedom anyway. 

[rough diamond]

2 hours ago, Yagoda said:

"Testimony and sworn statements are only true if they support my ideology"

I assume by "my ideology" that you really mean Trump's totally unhinged so called ideology!

[Jingthing]

 

The crisis is now.

 

 

[Social Media]

UPDATE:

 

Kilmar Abrego Garcia and MS-13 allegations

 

Kilmar Abrego Garcia, an immigrant from El Salvador, is at the center of a heated debate following accusations by the White House linking him to the notorious MS-13 gang. While the government has declared that Abrego Garcia will "never live" in the United States again, the man himself has denied any affiliation with the gang and has not been convicted of any crime. Despite the public and political uproar, many questions about his alleged ties to MS-13 remain unanswered.

 

According to court documents, Abrego Garcia entered the U.S. illegally in 2012. His first brush with law enforcement occurred in March 2019 when he and three others were detained in a Home Depot parking lot in Hyattsville, Maryland. Officers claimed the group was loitering and identified Abrego Garcia and two others as MS-13 members.

 

 

The basis for this identification came from a “Gang Field Interview Sheet,” which noted that Abrego Garcia was wearing a Chicago Bulls hat and a hoodie featuring presidents with rolls of money covering their eyes, ears, and mouths. Police wrote that such attire was “indicative of the Hispanic gang culture,” asserting that the Bulls logo specifically suggested membership in MS-13.

 

Steven Dudley, a journalist and expert on MS-13, offered a more cautious interpretation. While acknowledging that the Chicago Bulls logo had, at times, been adopted as a symbol by the gang, he stressed that this doesn’t prove membership. “Any assertions about gang affiliation would need to be corroborated with testimony, criminal history, and other corroborating evidence,” Dudley explained.

 

Police also claimed that a “proven and reliable source” had informed them that Abrego Garcia was part of MS-13’s “westerns clique,” holding the rank of “chequeo.” However, Dudley clarified that “chequeo” is not an actual rank, but a term used for recruits who have not yet been initiated.

 

Nevertheless, the judge presiding over Abrego Garcia’s 2019 case found enough evidence—based on the confidential source—to conclude that he was affiliated with the gang, a finding later upheld by another judge. This resulted in his being denied bail. During this time, he filed for asylum to avoid deportation to El Salvador, claiming his family had been targeted by Barrio-18, a rival gang.

 

In October 2019, he was granted a "withholding of removal" order—an immigration status that stopped his deportation due to the likelihood of harm if returned to El Salvador. His legal team stated that this was based on a “well-founded” fear of persecution, citing previous threats and extortion attempts by Barrio-18.

 

Since then, Abrego Garcia has remained in the U.S. under this protective status, attending all required check-ins with immigration authorities without any reported issues.

 

Separate allegations have also surfaced. In 2021, his wife, Jennifer Vasquez Sura, filed a protective order alleging domestic abuse. However, she later stated that she chose not to pursue legal action and that they worked through the matter privately, including attending counseling.

 

Most recently, White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt accused Abrego Garcia of being involved in human trafficking. This claim appeared to stem from a report by the conservative news outlet The Tennessee Star, which stated that he was stopped by a Tennessee highway patrol officer in December 2022 while transporting seven passengers. The report, citing unnamed sources, said the FBI was contacted, but Abrego Garcia and the passengers were later released. The BBC has not independently verified this report and has reached out to authorities for comment.

 

Based on a report by BBC Verify  2025-04-18

 

 

[stevenl]

1 hour ago, Social Media said:

UPDATE:

 

Kilmar Abrego Garcia and MS-13 allegations

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Kilmar Abrego Garcia, an immigrant from El Salvador, is at the center of a heated debate following accusations by the White House linking him to the notorious MS-13 gang. While the government has declared that Abrego Garcia will "never live" in the United States again, the man himself has denied any affiliation with the gang and has not been convicted of any crime. Despite the public and political uproar, many questions about his alleged ties to MS-13 remain unanswered.

 

According to court documents, Abrego Garcia entered the U.S. illegally in 2012. His first brush with law enforcement occurred in March 2019 when he and three others were detained in a Home Depot parking lot in Hyattsville, Maryland. Officers claimed the group was loitering and identified Abrego Garcia and two others as MS-13 members.

 

 

The basis for this identification came from a “Gang Field Interview Sheet,” which noted that Abrego Garcia was wearing a Chicago Bulls hat and a hoodie featuring presidents with rolls of money covering their eyes, ears, and mouths. Police wrote that such attire was “indicative of the Hispanic gang culture,” asserting that the Bulls logo specifically suggested membership in MS-13.

 

Steven Dudley, a journalist and expert on MS-13, offered a more cautious interpretation. While acknowledging that the Chicago Bulls logo had, at times, been adopted as a symbol by the gang, he stressed that this doesn’t prove membership. “Any assertions about gang affiliation would need to be corroborated with testimony, criminal history, and other corroborating evidence,” Dudley explained.

 

Police also claimed that a “proven and reliable source” had informed them that Abrego Garcia was part of MS-13’s “westerns clique,” holding the rank of “chequeo.” However, Dudley clarified that “chequeo” is not an actual rank, but a term used for recruits who have not yet been initiated.

 

Nevertheless, the judge presiding over Abrego Garcia’s 2019 case found enough evidence—based on the confidential source—to conclude that he was affiliated with the gang, a finding later upheld by another judge. This resulted in his being denied bail. During this time, he filed for asylum to avoid deportation to El Salvador, claiming his family had been targeted by Barrio-18, a rival gang.

 

In October 2019, he was granted a "withholding of removal" order—an immigration status that stopped his deportation due to the likelihood of harm if returned to El Salvador. His legal team stated that this was based on a “well-founded” fear of persecution, citing previous threats and extortion attempts by Barrio-18.

 

Since then, Abrego Garcia has remained in the U.S. under this protective status, attending all required check-ins with immigration authorities without any reported issues.

 

Separate allegations have also surfaced. In 2021, his wife, Jennifer Vasquez Sura, filed a protective order alleging domestic abuse. However, she later stated that she chose not to pursue legal action and that they worked through the matter privately, including attending counseling.

 

Most recently, White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt accused Abrego Garcia of being involved in human trafficking. This claim appeared to stem from a report by the conservative news outlet The Tennessee Star, which stated that he was stopped by a Tennessee highway patrol officer in December 2022 while transporting seven passengers. The report, citing unnamed sources, said the FBI was contacted, but Abrego Garcia and the passengers were later released. The BBC has not independently verified this report and has reached out to authorities for comment.

 

Based on a report by BBC Verify  2025-04-18

 

 

Finally facts.

[Cryingdick]

Anybody notice this guys wife isn't speaking out about how much he is missed? Wannabe gangster at best, jailhouse father married in prison, nobody that actually knows the guy is speaking up.

[Jingthing]

3 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

Anybody notice this guys wife isn't speaking out about how much he is missed? Wannabe gangster at best, jailhouse father married in prison, nobody that actually knows the guy is speaking up.

You're wrong. She has spoken out very forcefully. I guess your maga "media" bubble has ignored that. 

 

 

[Cryingdick]

3 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

You're wrong. She has spoken out very forcefully. I guess your maga bubble has ignored that. 

I haven't seen that. Where is this located? I do watch CNN an hour a day and didn't notice it there. Sorry I didnt get the video before this post.

 

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, Cryingdick said:

I haven't seen that. Where is this located?

 

Posted above. Again, I suggest expanding your sources outside the maga tunnel of lies and hatred.

[Cryingdick]

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

Posted above. Again, I suggest expanding your sources outside the maga tunnel of lies and hatred.

Yeah the video lagged. I am not hateful. Even if this guy was brought back he wouldn't be admitted into the USA. Nor should he. I am sorry he dressed up like a gang member even though apparently he wasn't a member and accidentally got sent to his country of origin. 

[Jingthing]

My prediction sadly gels with the opinion posted in the video above about The Crisis Is Now.

The Trump regime will not allow him to ever get out.

He's in a concentration camp where there is no out.

The Salvadorian dictator has said the only way out is death.

There is torture there obviously.

If he's let out, he then speaks and the Trump regime can't have that.

If he isn't dead already, they're going to murder him first before any chance of release.

I hope I am wrong.

[Jingthing]

3 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

Yeah the video lagged. I am not hateful. Even if this guy was brought back he wouldn't be admitted into the USA. Nor should he. I am sorry he dressed up like a gang member even though apparently he wasn't a member and accidentally got sent to his country of origin. 

This is so STUPID. 
He wasn't deported.

He was disappeared to a CONCENTRATION CAMP funded by U.S. taxpayers without due process and in violation of a standing order not to remove him.

You say you're not hateful yet you condone this total evil.

Learn from history but I know you won't. 

If the Trump regime can do this to him he can do this to anyone including U.S. citizens who are his political opponents.

 

[Cryingdick]

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

My prediction sadly gels with the opinion posted in the video above about The Crisis Is Now.

The Trump regime will not allow him to ever get out.

He's in a concentration camp where there is no out.

The Salvadorian dictator has said the only way out is death.

There is torture there obviously.

If he's let out, he then speaks and the Trump regime can't have that.

If he isn't dead already, they're going to murder him first before any chance of release.

I hope I am wrong.

 

From a guy that would have considered El Salvador a place to move to if their hemorrhoid clinics there were cheap that's funny. But as I said the more the dems talk the worse it is for him. Imagine being him and everybody that pretends to care about you to push their agenda makes your chances worse.

[Cryingdick]

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

This is so STUPID. 
He wasn't deported.

He was disappeared to a CONCENTRATION CAMP funded by U.S. taxpayers without due process and in violation of a standing order not to remove him.

You say you're not hateful yet you condone this total evil.

Learn from history but I know you won't. 

If the Trump regime can do this to him he can do this to anyone including U.S. citizens who are his political opponents.

 

He didn't disappear everybody knows where he is. That word is the latest stupid talking point.

[Bkk Brian]

49 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Finally facts.

Yes..........

 

2 hours ago, Social Media said:

Nevertheless, the judge presiding over Abrego Garcia’s 2019 case found enough evidence—based on the confidential source—to conclude that he was affiliated with the gang, a finding later upheld by another judge.

 

[Jingthing]

Just now, Cryingdick said:

He didn't disappear everybody knows where he is. That word is the latest stupid talking point.

Actually we don't. 
We don't know if he's even still alive.

The Salvadorian dictator won't even allow a Red Cross type check.

Again -- the is was NOT a deportation, there was a standing legal order for him to remian, and there was no due process.

 

[Cryingdick]

Just now, Jingthing said:

Actually we don't. 
We don't know if he's even still alive.

The Salvadorian dictator won't even allow a Red Cross type check.

Again -- the is was NOT a deportation, there was a standing legal order for him to remian, and there was no due process.

 

No there was no standing order for him to remain there was an injunction against sending him to El Salvador.

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, Cryingdick said:

No there was no standing order for him to remain there was an injunction against sending him to El Salvador.

Which is where they sent him -- to a concentration camp.

The rule of law means nothing to the Trump regime.

[Cryingdick]

The USA will now need to restore its gulags. Make one in Alaska they can wait while they get their due process. This guy will never be free in the USA while his appeals are denied. It will also be found that the conditions for barring his deportation to El Salvador have changed as it is the safest country in the western hemisphere at this point. 

 

Let them stay for all I care you don't walk free. As a bonus we could hire illegal cartel members to staff the Alaskan prison

 

[Cryingdick]

2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Which is where they sent him -- to a concentration camp.

The rule of law means nothing to the Trump regime.

So you acknowledge that he shoul;d have never been let out of detention in the USA? You know he had removal orders, but the thing is he was sent to El Salvador? Not that he was some great guy, not that he had a case.

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, Cryingdick said:

The USA will now need to restore its gulags. Make one in Alaska they can wait while they get their due process. This guy will never be free in the USA while his appeals are denied. It will also be found that the conditions for barring his deportation to El Salvador have changed as it is the safest country in the western hemisphere at this point. 

 

Let them stay for all I care you don't walk free. As a bonus we could hire illegal cartel members to staff the Alaskan prison

 

Gulags huh? Got a live one.

[Cryingdick]

Just now, Jingthing said:

Gulags huh? Got a live one.

Gulag is one language cartel members and gangsters speak. I bet Abrigo isn't sitting around in a hoody with dollar bills pinned to it bragging about what a big guy he is these days.

[Jingthing]

Just now, Cryingdick said:

So you acknowledge that he shoul;d have never been let out of detention in the USA? You know he had removal orders, but the thing is he was sent to El Salvador? Not that he was some great guy, not that he had a case.

I think he deserved due process which he never got.

Being deported to El Salvador is completely different from being directly sent to concentration camp there funded by the U.S.